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How many goons, having nothing better to do, travelled to fight in Syria during the last two days/how many of them are still alive?
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Nenonen posted:How many goons, having nothing better to do, travelled to fight in Syria during the last two days/how many of them are still alive? I tried, but I just couldn't find a good restaurant in Homs. Then the WiFi service at the hotel was terrible, so I flew on back home.
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Jun 26, 2014 14:28
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Nenonen posted:How many goons, having nothing better to do, travelled to fight in Syria during the last two days/how many of them are still alive? You should read the Trip Advisor forums for Iraq and Syria and Afghanistan. "Hey why am I having trouble finding flights into Damascus?? Also, do I need a visa?"
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Jun 26, 2014 14:40
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Nenonen posted:How many goons, having nothing better to do, travelled to fight in Syria during the last two days/how many of them are still alive? Depends, is "Syria" a euphemism for alcohol poisoning?
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Jun 26, 2014 14:41
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goatse.cx posted:I didn't think there was an open rebellion in India. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sepoy_Rebellion While I'm at it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vellore_Mutiny http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1898_Baloch_uprising http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampa_Rebellion_of_1879 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titumir http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santhal_rebellion Various tribal revolts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribal_revolts_in_India_before_Indian_independence Hong XiuQuan fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Jun 26, 2014 |
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Jun 26, 2014 15:17
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Miltank posted:this time Assad has gone too far. A red line has been crossed.
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Jun 26, 2014 15:33
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No Assad, you are not allowed to intervene into SomethingAwful! You will regret this 
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Jun 26, 2014 16:11
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Unleash the goons.
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Jun 26, 2014 16:18
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What are the odds that the SEA are actually behind this?
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Jun 26, 2014 16:20
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Eagerly awaiting my response from the ICC prosecutors office. Making sure to get this crime against goonanity documented properly.
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Jun 26, 2014 16:21
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A Lebanese football fan announces his defection from supporting Italy to Brazil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqJDkUzUxfI
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Jun 26, 2014 17:10
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Brown Moses posted:A Lebanese football fan announces his defection from supporting Italy to Brazil Yup, that sure is what I expected. Speaking of Lebanon, the crackdown lately is crazy. Deep down I know ISIS was gonna spread here eventually but something about all this makes me want to blame Hezbollah for attracting them/antagonizing them abroad.
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Jun 26, 2014 17:21
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ChaosSamusX posted:What are the odds that the SEA are actually behind this? If SEA deleted FYAD and inadvertently took down the rest of the forums, I'd consider it collateral damage.
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Jun 26, 2014 17:45
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suboptimal posted:If SEA deleted FYAD and inadvertently took down the rest of the forums, I'd consider it collateral damage. Article 5 of the dickbutt treaty, any attack on a treaty member shall be treated as an attack on them all except E/N
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Jun 26, 2014 18:33
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HGH posted:Yup, that sure is what I expected. When this article talks about "security forces", who do they mean? The Lebanese Army? Hezbollah? Police, (and who controls them)?
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Jun 26, 2014 19:11
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Probably ISF, which is Sunni-dominated.
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Jun 26, 2014 19:31
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ChaosSamusX posted:What are the odds that the SEA are actually behind this? None. The truth is probably something much more trite. I guess it could be a multitude of reasons and, if you're imaginative, you could say this was the work of an idiot trying to impress SEA.
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Jun 26, 2014 21:29
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BBC has an interview with Maliki where he says Iraq is now going to buy military aircraft from Belarus and Russia because the US is dragging its feet. For those who don't recall, Iraq signed an arms deal with Russia a year or so back and the US had them kill it. I have no problem seeing Russia getting more involved in the region, I think ISIL and Dugin are perfect for each other. I'm sure they'll find alot in common as archaomodern land people.
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Jun 26, 2014 21:53
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McDowell posted:BBC has an interview with Maliki where he says Iraq is now going to buy military aircraft from Belarus and Russia because the US is dragging its feet. For those who don't recall, Iraq signed an arms deal with Russia a year or so back and the US had them kill it. Maliki is such a big whiney baby.
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Jun 26, 2014 22:25
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McDowell posted:BBC has an interview with Maliki where he says Iraq is now going to buy military aircraft from Belarus and Russia because the US is dragging its feet. For those who don't recall, Iraq signed an arms deal with Russia a year or so back and the US had them kill it. It's probably pretty easy for anyone to "sell" Iraq arms at the moment, given that the current regime has weeks left at best.
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Jun 26, 2014 22:26
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In a bit of schadenfreude news, Alaa Al Aswany, the Egyptian 'liberal thinker and democrat' who waxed on about democracy during mubarak and the MB days, then turned into a fascist bootlicker and one of the biggest proponents of Sisi and then kept trying to justify the mas murder of his political opponents, got banned from writing articles on all Egyptian newspapers, because he tried to say one mildly critical thing about the military regime.
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Jun 26, 2014 22:56
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Al-Saqr posted:In a bit of schadenfreude news, Alaa Al Aswany, the Egyptian 'liberal thinker and democrat' who waxed on about democracy during mubarak and the MB days, then turned into a fascist bootlicker and one of the biggest proponents of Sisi and then kept trying to justify the mas murder of his political opponents, got banned from writing articles on all Egyptian newspapers, because he tried to say one mildly critical thing about the military regime. Wait, is the suppression of free speech that bad in Egypt? I mean, I knew it was pretty bad, and that public protests are regularly treated with brutality, but completely censoring an individual because of one comment is absurd.
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Jun 26, 2014 23:07
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ChaosSamusX posted:Wait, is the suppression of free speech that bad in Egypt? I mean, I knew it was pretty bad, and that public protests are regularly treated with brutality, but completely censoring an individual because of one comment is absurd. An Al-Jazeera reporter and a few others were just sentenced to multiple years in prison in Egypt for doing exactly that
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Jun 26, 2014 23:19
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And Kerry will still say that Sissi's doing a bang-up job and will have unfrozen US military aid to Egypt. What a joke.
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Jun 27, 2014 00:35
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Were the protesters who brought down Morsi fools for playing into the hands of the Egyptian military, or was Morsi so bad that he had to go no matter what? Morsi did troubling things, but couldn't the Egyptians have let Morsi serve out his term before voting the Brotherhood out of office to maintain democracy?
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Popcornicus posted:Were the protesters who brought down Morsi fools for playing into the hands of the Egyptian military, or was Morsi so bad that he had to go no matter what? Morsi did troubling things, but couldn't the Egyptians have let Morsi serve out his term before voting the Brotherhood out of office to maintain democracy? I think what happened was the military holds a big portion of the Egyptian economy, when Morsi started going against them they messed with the economy to make things worse, which was blamed on Morsi, and the rest is history. Keep in mind this is only my ignorant American analysis though.
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Popcornicus posted:Were the protesters who brought down Morsi fools for playing into the hands of the Egyptian military, or was Morsi so bad that he had to go no matter what? Morsi did troubling things, but couldn't the Egyptians have let Morsi serve out his term before voting the Brotherhood out of office to maintain democracy? I don't think you'll find many that aren't in the Sisi cult who will tell you that Morsi should've gone. He was a completely different President than he was a candidate to a disgusting level, and Egypt's democracy was inherently flawed due to the piss poor process used to create it (after Morsi was elected, the MB and the Egyptian supreme court got together and hashed out what "president" was, as the powers of the position hadn't even been set up beforehand), but at least in theory it wasn't rigid. A new President could be elected (giving Morsi a 4 year term right off the bat was a mistake as well, but eventually), and the Egyptian people could have some say in determining the direction Egypt took. However, it does seem that the democracy was rigged to fail and Morsi was never meant to serve out his full term. There were people on the day of the elections saying that they voted for Morsi because they thought he'd be the easiest to overthrow. While Morsi really was the popular candidate, I think you could've thrown just about anyone in that position, and he wouldn't have been able to hold that iteration of democracy together with how stacked the deck was against him. More than anything, to me it's just a sad tale of Mubarak and democracy being symbols that the original revolution latched on to, and the military behind the curtain gave them the fall of Mubarak, and democracy, and skillfully navigated the process with the intent of never yielding an inch of power. Volkerball fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Jun 27, 2014 |
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Jun 27, 2014 01:24
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So are we moving closer to a defacto 3 state solution in Iraq, or will the violence spike past an internationally unacceptable level?
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cheese posted:So are we moving closer to a defacto 3 state solution in Iraq, or will the violence spike past an internationally unacceptable level? Yes. Okay to be fair, the violence will be hard pressed to actually spurn any action beyond arm sales, which I guess is the implicit threshold for unacceptable
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Volkerball posted:I don't think you'll find many that aren't in the Sisi cult who will tell you that Morsi should've gone. He was a completely different President than he was a candidate to a disgusting level, and Egypt's democracy was inherently flawed due to the piss poor process used to create it (after Morsi was elected, the MB and the Egyptian supreme court got together and hashed out what "president" was, as the powers of the position hadn't even been set up beforehand), but at least in theory it wasn't rigid. A new President could be elected (giving Morsi a 4 year term right off the bat was a mistake as well, but eventually), and the Egyptian people could have some say in determining the direction Egypt took. However, it does seem that the democracy was rigged to fail and Morsi was never meant to serve out his full term. There were people on the day of the elections saying that they voted for Morsi because they thought he'd be the easiest to overthrow. While Morsi really was the popular candidate, I think you could've thrown just about anyone in that position, and he wouldn't have been able to hold that iteration of democracy together with how stacked the deck was against him. More than anything, to me it's just a sad tale of Mubarak and democracy being symbols that the original revolution latched on to, and the military behind the curtain gave them the fall of Mubarak, and democracy, and skillfully navigated the process with the intent of never yielding an inch of power. That is a drat good breakdown.
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Sucrose posted:And Kerry will still say that Sissi's doing a bang-up job and will have unfrozen US military aid to Egypt. What a joke. Wait, my bad, Kerry will publicly make some vague condemnations, and then in reality free up aid for Sisi anyway like nothing happened.
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cheese posted:So are we moving closer to a defacto 3 state solution in Iraq, or will the violence spike past an internationally unacceptable level? "Internationally unacceptable" bahahaha Who the gently caress is going to stop it?
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So Libya's having elections, how are those going? Oh, not so good.  quote:Voting has ended in a Libyan general election marred by low turnout and deadly violence. The election is seen as a last chance to end the anarchy that has gripped the country since the 2011 overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi. quote:Ms Bugaighis was one of the most prominent human rights activists in Libya and her brutal killing at her own home caused profound shock, even in a society which is being increasingly exposed to bloody strife. The lawyer was shot and stabbed on the day of the general election, an exercise in democracy she had played a part in establishing from the early, uncertain days of the revolution which led to the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi. ...Can we just make the official Middle East emote? (If it isn't already)
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Volkerball posted:I don't think you'll find many that aren't in the Sisi cult who will tell you that Morsi should've gone. He was a completely different President than he was a candidate to a disgusting level, and Egypt's democracy was inherently flawed due to the piss poor process used to create it (after Morsi was elected, the MB and the Egyptian supreme court got together and hashed out what "president" was, as the powers of the position hadn't even been set up beforehand), but at least in theory it wasn't rigid. A new President could be elected (giving Morsi a 4 year term right off the bat was a mistake as well, but eventually), and the Egyptian people could have some say in determining the direction Egypt took. However, it does seem that the democracy was rigged to fail and Morsi was never meant to serve out his full term. There were people on the day of the elections saying that they voted for Morsi because they thought he'd be the easiest to overthrow. While Morsi really was the popular candidate, I think you could've thrown just about anyone in that position, and he wouldn't have been able to hold that iteration of democracy together with how stacked the deck was against him. More than anything, to me it's just a sad tale of Mubarak and democracy being symbols that the original revolution latched on to, and the military behind the curtain gave them the fall of Mubarak, and democracy, and skillfully navigated the process with the intent of never yielding an inch of power. Yeah, the one thing that supporters of the coup always seem to forget is that Mursi's popularity was falling spectacularly, and in the next set of elections he and his party would've been gone. The response that "b-but he could've seized power and destroyed democracy!" rings a little hollow considering that's exactly what happened anyway. Gen. Ripper posted:I think what happened was the military holds a big portion of the Egyptian economy, when Morsi started going against them they messed with the economy to make things worse, which was blamed on Morsi, and the rest is history. It's almost certainly true, but I've always had a hard time researching the degree to which the Egyptian military is intertwined with business. Like, that whole aspect where public and private sectors bleed together is always shady as hell and difficult to quantify. illrepute fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Jun 27, 2014 |
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Jun 27, 2014 03:06
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illrepute posted:Yeah, the one thing that supporters of the coup always seem to forget is that Mursi's popularity was falling spectacularly, and in the next set of elections he and his party would've been gone. The response that "b-but he could've seized power and destroyed democracy!" rings a little hollow considering that's exactly what happened anyway. The next set of elections (4 years from then).
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computer parts posted:The next set of elections (4 years from then). Yep, sucks. But: four years of Mursi: probably better than what's happening now? e: Like, God, where to begin? The mass death sentences? The amnesty for security personnel who gassed protesters to death? Decade-long prison sentences for AJ journalists? The sham elections? Even at his lowest, Mursi pales compared to these clowns. illrepute fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Jun 27, 2014 |
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Jun 27, 2014 03:10
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illrepute posted:Yep, sucks. But: four years of Mursi: probably better than what's happening now? Probably just as awful but in a completely different way.
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Jun 27, 2014 03:17
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Probably just as awful but in a completely different way. If that makes you feel better about it, sure. But he was in office for a year and we saw nothing like this.
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Jun 27, 2014 03:20
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computer parts posted:The next set of elections (4 years from then). 3.  It should be noted that Egypt's sorry excuse for political process was ripe for exploitation, and Morsi and the MB were doing everything they could to take advantage of that. It was very clear the intent was to cement the MB as the ruling party and push out opposition parties, and in 4 years, 3 more on top of the year from his election to the coup, it probably would have been unrecognizable as an elected representative body accountable to voters. That was why I initially supported the coup, because their institution of democracy was so broken, that there's no telling what would've become of it in the long term. They basically enacted a rough draft, and they needed to make a bunch of revisions just so that their government would be able to survive its first 4 years at the hands of a man with a clearcut, oppressive agenda that no one was going to stop him from pursuing. Checks and balances, all that good stuff that no one thought to (or purposely didn't) add initially. So really, I think the difference is negligible, because if people had decided to stay home instead of protesting after Morsi's first year, they would've changed their tune at some point before his term was up when things continued to get worse for the majority of the population who weren't interested in an Islamic state. Not to mention the military was always looming in the background with the power to subvert or overthrow the MB at any time, and they obviously didn't have any interest in their democracy becoming sustainable. The crash course was inevitable. The question is more about what is your flavor? Islamic theocracy, or fascist, oppressive junta? At least Morsi's government wasn't out murdering people en masse.
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fade5 posted:So Libya's having elections, how are those going? This poo poo is like real life Game of Thrones. Nice people can't last long.
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