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Axetrain posted:The right will definitely go heavy on the misogyny because it's their nature but that's a much more dangerous game to play then racism. Women make up 51% of the population so your essentially going to be attacking a majority population, that has way more potential to backfire on them really really hard come election day. I say this in part because of my own mother. I remember listening to plenty of Rush with my mom growing up and Bill Clinton was always "Slick Willy," in her house. 20 years later she has come around a bit (largely because of Bush) and she even voted for Obama the last couple of elections. Today you can have a conversation with her and say Clinton was a better president than Reagan and it won't immediately escalate to screaming and bullshit. But she hasn't shaken the Hillary hate even a little bit, it doesn't matter that she would essentially have the same platform as Obama, she personally hates her. I'm not sure what it is exactly, I guess she personally offended a large part of conservative white america in the 90s by being a sort of working politician mother instead of a picturesque homemaker with dinner on the table like Nancy or Barbara. Then she wrote a book "telling everyone else how to raise their kids," then she proved her marriage was just a power play by not divorcing Bill or even making a scene over the Lewinsky affair. Those are the major points my teenaged brain remembers from Rush and my mom back in the day.
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Mercury_Storm posted:Counterpoint: American white male masculinity isn't challenged by there being a black man in the highest office of the land. Except it absolutely is? Are you serious? Half of the recent attacks on Obama have been about how he's not masculine enough and doesn't have the balls to keep countries like Russia and Syria in check and a virile white man like Reagan would make them poo poo their pants.
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Yeah to say something like that you have to ignore how racial stereotypes intersect with gender roles. Conservatives were insulting Obama for his "manhood problem" when it comes to foreign policy only a few months ago. From Salon: quote:The racial aspect adds another dimension. Obama’s entire political career has been defined by pushing back against the “threatening, black alpha-male” stereotype. Conciliation, not confrontation, is not just his style, but the core of his substance as well. The slightest break from this stance can trigger immediate backlash — as was seen in the knee-jerk response to his comment saying police acted “stupidly” when they arrested Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates for trespassing in his own home. Since then, conservative activists and media have manufactured countless similar offenses as Obama has consistently failed to produce them himself. He has a “deep-seated hatred of white people,” as Glenn Beck alleged, without a scintilla of evidence, when Obama held his “beer summit” to atone for his momentary lapse of inconvenient truth-telling. And that has been the right-wing narrative subtext ever since. But the textual evidence has been virtually nonexistent, because Obama’s personality and his politics have been so deeply wedded to compromise and conciliation. FourLeaf fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Jun 27, 2014 |
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wixard posted:On paper that seems comforting, but after thinking about it for a minute I'm not so sure. For one thing they could parade a long line of Hillary's peers (60something white women) to tear her apart with what amounts to misogyny but gets a pass because of the optics. I'm not saying current RWM is respectful with race and Obama, but there aren't too many black people ready to go on the air and directly say his blackness hurts his ability to lead the country, while there are plenty of family values housewives and grandmothers who HATE Hillary. I'm not saying it couldn't work but if I were a betting man I'd put my money on it backfiring. I was too young to be politically aware during the Clinton years and my family and all my neighbors were ardent Democrats and Clinton fans so I was never exposed to the Clinton hate-fest, it really surprises me to hear people say it was as bad as the hate boner the right has towards Obama. There are certainly a lot of Republican women with something akin to Stockholm syndrome but beyond ginning up the base I don't think they are going to be convincing many independents much less Democrats to switch over to voting Republican.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Except it absolutely is? Are you serious? Half of the recent attacks on Obama have been about how he's not masculine enough and doesn't have the balls to keep countries like Russia and Syria in check and a virile white man like Reagan would make them poo poo their pants. And all of that is absolute peanuts compared to the level outright misogyny a woman would get for being in office from the same people. The Right's hand-wringing over Obama's masculinity is just a cover for their racism. We should expect a totally different ballgame of hate if Hillary gets elected. So I suppose I should have said "Not challenged in a way comparable to Hillary being President". Mercury_Storm fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Jun 27, 2014 |
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Once upon a time Medved hated soccer almost as much as he hates homeless people and graffiti. Now that the USA is actually competitive in the World Cup he makes delightfully comments like: If only we could make gay marriage and single-payer healthcare into international sporting events and give us a whiff of a chance at beating the entire world at something.
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Axetrain posted:I'm not saying it couldn't work but if I were a betting man I'd put my money on it backfiring.
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I just read that Mark Mayfield is dead, and while reading the article it mentioned that he was in trouble over trying to use photos of a guys bedridden wife in a nursing home as ammo for an attack ad. How was this going to work, Right Wing Media thread?
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Professor Shark posted:I just read that Mark Mayfield is dead, and while reading the article it mentioned that he was in trouble over trying to use photos of a guys bedridden wife in a nursing home as ammo for an attack ad. I'm sure they will demand a full inquiry into this, a la Vince Foster.
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Professor Shark posted:I just read that Mark Mayfield is dead, and while reading the article it mentioned that he was in trouble over trying to use photos of a guys bedridden wife in a nursing home as ammo for an attack ad. after reading the article. i have say good riddance, he sounded like a pretty lovely human being.
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Suicide sucks but I look forward to Obama and McCain meeting on the field of battle once again to decide who the RWM will blame for this obviously faked suicide that was actually a murder.
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Professor Shark posted:I just read that Mark Mayfield is dead, and while reading the article it mentioned that he was in trouble over trying to use photos of a guys bedridden wife in a nursing home as ammo for an attack ad. They were going to use it to insinuate that Thad Cochran was having an affair with one of his staffers while his poor bedridden wife sat neglected in a nursing home.
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wixard posted:I'm not sure what it is exactly, I guess she personally offended a large part of conservative white america in the 90s by being a sort of working politician mother instead of a picturesque homemaker with dinner on the table like Nancy or Barbara. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rulSnAM6gmM Of course in the two decades since that comment women have come to make up nearly half of the sole or primary earners in households, soon to be a majority. Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Jun 27, 2014 |
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Good Citizen posted:Holy poo poo. He already fired Mohammed Hassan.
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Iron Sheik II. Make it happen.
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Phone posted:Iron Fixed.
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Here's a fun game: Try and guess how trivial of a slight these RW darlings were subjected to, based on their description...quote:We just remember June the 6th, 1944. We know what happened at D-Day. We know what happened on Omaha and Utah beach. There’s something about those men that our dad taught us when we were kids. And he said, ‘Boys, don’t you ever run from bullets. You run toward the bullets.’ There are cultural bullets flying, all over today, especially religious liberty. And what’s happening right now is many spiritual leaders, elected leaders, they are running from bullets. But there’s a remnant of people that are ready to stand and say ‘I’m not running from these bullets any more. I’m gonna take this beach…’” Answer: Lost their chance to make a HGTV reality show when people contacted HGTV about their previous dealings in virulent anti-gay protests, among other poo poo like being part of the "Ground Zero Mosque" fiasco. - http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/benham-brothers-ready-die-battle . Drama queens.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Here's a fun game: Try and guess how trivial of a slight these RW darlings were subjected to, based on their description... The title of that article is "Benham Brothers Ready To Die In Battle". Why is every right wing cause an actual war?
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radical meme posted:The title of that article is "Benham Brothers Ready To Die In Battle". Why is every right wing cause an actual war? That's confusing, but not half as confusing as the idea that two grown men got that far into negotiations with HGTV without knowing that a ton of gay people watch that channel. Either that or they had made peace with the fact that they were about to become eye candy for a bunch of people they loathe just because it would get them on the tee vee. They're obviously not complete idiots if they knew they could parlay that loss into a spot on the conservative swindler bench, so I would bet the latter.
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It kind of irks me when I see Republican boomers try to co-opt the accomplishments of the greatest generation.radical meme posted:The title of that article is "Benham Brothers Ready To Die In Battle". Why is every right wing cause an actual war? I'm ready for it too.
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comes along bort posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rulSnAM6gmM
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A couple days ago I was listening to sports talk radio, because I have to get my hot sports takes from somewhere, and the hosts were speculating about whether Germany would go easy on the US. "No," said the host, "I don't think we can count on that, because of World War 2." It really is spectacularly, hilariously insular and ignorant to think that the Germans, of all people, regard WW2 with the same sense of idealism and jingoism that we do here in the US.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/neil-cavuto-michele-bachmann-obama-lawsuit-108316.html Anyone see this? For once I actually can side with Cavuto on something. I think Bachmann is legit nuts. I also wonder how long it's going to take until the "Free market/Business" conservatives eventually divorce themselves from the Tea Party-types. I can already see that division is already beginning to happen honestly.
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I listen to Financial Issues on american family radio every morning for the laughs and this gem was on this morning. Friday June 27 Hour 2 @22:20ish. http://www.afa.net/Radio/show.aspx?id=2147497439&tab=audio&audio=2147547135 Basically this lady calls in and she lost her insurance years ago and is only now able to get treatment for cancer due to removal of pre-existing and expansion of medicaid. However, because of a change at work she is now voluntarily quitting her job in order to maintain her coverage. The host of course
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FuzzySkinner posted:http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/neil-cavuto-michele-bachmann-obama-lawsuit-108316.html Holy poo poo,the splintering of the GOP-Tea Party relationship is accelerating. maybe we will have a hosed up third party by the time 2016 hits. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Jun 27, 2014 |
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Republicans posted:Once upon a time Medved hated soccer almost as much as he hates homeless people and graffiti. Now that the USA is actually competitive in the World Cup he makes delightfully comments like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDHNIn-XLKM
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pengun101 posted:Holy poo poo,the splintering of the GOP-Tea Party relationship is accelerating. maybe we will have a hosed up third party by the time 2016 hits. The strength of McDaniel's write in campaign is going to be a great test of this but probably not a full blown 3rd party yet methinks.
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pengun101 posted:Holy poo poo,the splintering of the GOP-Tea Party relationship is accelerating. maybe we will have a hosed up third party by the time 2016 hits. If only the Tea Party could have been its own third party from the get-go.
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That was horrifying.
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pengun101 posted:Holy poo poo,the splintering of the GOP-Tea Party relationship is accelerating. maybe we will have a hosed up third party by the time 2016 hits. Someone else pointed it out earlier but for some reason FOX News is taking the hard right to task pretty heavily lately. Not sure why but it makes me nervous because I know there's an ulterior motive lurking in there somewhere.
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BiggerBoat posted:Someone else pointed it out earlier but for some reason FOX News is taking the hard right to task pretty heavily lately. Not sure why but it makes me nervous because I know there's an ulterior motive lurking in there somewhere. Rupe's Stock Portfolio
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Is there any other way this can go, really? The Tea Party's answer to literally everything is "be more insane." We won an election? Hell yes, let's be more insane! That just shows people want crazy! Oh gently caress, we lost an election? We were obviously not insane enough! Maybe I'm wrong but I can't see anything happening that isn't the Tea Party spinning off into a spectacular failure of a third party.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:The strength of McDaniel's write in campaign is going to be a great test of this but probably not a full blown 3rd party yet methinks. I thought write in campaigns weren't counted in Mississippi unless someone in the race died.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:The strength of McDaniel's write in campaign is going to be a great test of this but probably not a full blown 3rd party yet methinks. There won't be a write-in campaign. MS law says that write-in votes are only counted if a candidate on the ballot dies. His only chance was to run as an independent, and the deadline for doing that was the end of January, before the GOP primary.
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Wowza, then this whole illegal voters thing is going to get the full wingnut. Cool. If I was the Dem in that general I would spend the entire campaign just trolling tea party types into staying home.
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thefncrow posted:There won't be a write-in campaign. MS law says that write-in votes are only counted if a candidate on the ballot dies. His only chance was to run as an independent, and the deadline for doing that was the end of January, before the GOP primary. Doesn't mean they know that!
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Maybe I'm wrong but I can't see anything happening that isn't the Tea Party spinning off into a spectacular failure of a third party. Probably, but they'll lose enough people beforehand that you'll barely hear about it. To either the regular GOP or heart disease.
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thefncrow posted:There won't be a write-in campaign. MS law says that write-in votes are only counted if a candidate on the ballot dies. His only chance was to run as an independent, and the deadline for doing that was the end of January, before the GOP primary. Ah, but we're talking about a group of people who reject your facts as lies. If enough of THE PEOPLE express their will in a write-in, their Votes NEED to be counted. Something something fourth box, moron label!
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If McDaniel is still part of the Republican party isn't he required to concede to the official GOP candidate even if the majority of ballots have his name written in?
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I've recently noticed on my DISH programming guide that Newsmax has its own network. I've flipped there a few times, but have had to run away quickly because I always see Steve Malzberg, who I have allergies to. Apparently JD Hayworth also has a show. That should be enough to drive away any sane person but here you go regardless, if you're feeling brave/masochistic: http://www.newsmaxtv.com/
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