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McDowell posted:If McDaniel is still part of the Republican party isn't he required to concede to the official GOP candidate even if the majority of ballots have his name written in? Short answer: Murkowski.
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BiggerBoat posted:Someone else pointed it out earlier but for some reason FOX News is taking the hard right to task pretty heavily lately. Not sure why but it makes me nervous because I know there's an ulterior motive lurking in there somewhere. I think its probably because the GOP is slowly relizing that they will die if they stay attached to the tea party/Social conservatives. Now, it all comes down to this years elections and of course 2016.
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pengun101 posted:I think its probably because the GOP is slowly relizing that they will die if they stay attached to the tea party/Social conservatives. Now, it all comes down to this years elections and of course 2016. Politics is a short term gains game though. Stuff like the Southern Strategybthat are wide ranging game changers only got pulled off because there were victories to be pulled off day one with race baiting. Trying to change the demographics of the GOP will be very hard and will take a long time to the point it is possible the GOP just backs into a corner. Afterall, post-2012 was supposed to be the reckoning of hispanic vote and immigration reform. But whats on Drudge as the headline this morning?
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Jun 27, 2014 23:29
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Well it's the modern day conservative between a rock and a hard place dilemma. They can't win if they don't get the teabagger votes out but they can't win if they promote the teabagger madness. Their base is screaming at them to be outwardly and loudly white supremacist which is unacceptable to the population at large but they get primaried by loons if they don't oblige them. It's not like they don't want to put the beast back in it's cage, it's that they can't.
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Berke Negri posted:Afterall, post-2012 was supposed to be the reckoning of hispanic vote and immigration reform. But whats on Drudge as the headline this morning? That was based on the assumption that the GOP would accept the reality of the Hispanic voting bloc and make at least some attempt to look reasonable to them...but that's Amnesty and Rubio was eaten alive for trying, so NOPE. Edit: Which in turn, makes it a pretty easy choice between the two parties...which means Dem's don't need to actually do anything to win those votes other than sit back and let Steve King drop another gem about drug mule's swole bods. Which means no action in immigration reform. Democracy in action. You don't get poo poo unless someone needs you. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Jun 27, 2014 |
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thefncrow posted:There won't be a write-in campaign. MS law says that write-in votes are only counted if a candidate on the ballot dies. His only chance was to run as an independent, and the deadline for doing that was the end of January, before the GOP primary. It would be glorious if some Democratic sugar daddy, none exist of course, would start a PAC and run ads, starting just a few days before the general election, asking all true conservatives to write-in McDaniel's name, telling the rubes to ignore anybody saying it won't count and with a legal disclaimer at the end of the ad, in very, very small print saying, "Your write-in vote will only count if Thad Cochran dies before the polls close on election day". They could even use audio and printed quotes from such luminaries as Mark Levin and Sarah Palin praising McDaniel and condemning Cochran.
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Jun 28, 2014 01:19
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIHa1_wHg1g Apparently this is something that's being promoted on Fox News. You know...the lack of any 20-40 year olds in this clip is rather telling. Speaks volumes to how the "Spark" won't be coming from any of these folks.
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Doesn't any of the news coverage of wingnut outrage over Dems voting for Cochran mention a little thing called "Operation Chaos"?
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Jun 28, 2014 03:03
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Zwabu posted:Doesn't any of the news coverage of wingnut outrage over Dems voting for Cochran mention a little thing called "Operation Chaos"? 'When a Republican votes, it's not illegal.'
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Axetrain posted:Well it's the modern day conservative between a rock and a hard place dilemma. They can't win if they don't get the teabagger votes out but they can't win if they promote the teabagger madness. Their base is screaming at them to be outwardly and loudly white supremacist which is unacceptable to the population at large but they get primaried by loons if they don't oblige them. It's not like they don't want to put the beast back in it's cage, it's that they can't. Anyone not bred in an Austrian Economics/Koch funded lab by this point who is young and 'conservative' but sensible and a possible future in politics (business, professionals) has jumped ship to independent or democrat by this point I feel from my own interactions in a red state. Basically the people successful but non-insulated trust funders or echo chamber young republicans. Their ideas arent necesarilly better but the baseline of conservatism is pretty rodiculous by this point. Kind of an inverse of how the Dems were viewed in the 80s. Berke Negri fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Jun 28, 2014 |
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It's close but both gays and Muslims are just about edging out the election, all of which is more important than the actual rapture.
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FuzzySkinner posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIHa1_wHg1g It must be so comforting to live in a world of one's own self-created delusion.
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beatlegs posted:It must be so comforting to live in a world of one's own self-created delusion. Video: We CAN unite this country. anonumos: No you loving can't.
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anonumos posted:Video: We CAN unite this country. Can't even unite they own party. A shameful ideology.
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kik2dagroin posted:Ah yes, and now Hank Paulson is disavowed because he believes in climate change So is the right already trying to re-write what happened in 2008?
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Sir Tonk posted:So is the right already trying to re-write what happened in 2008? Reality is whatever the right needs it to be at the moment.
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I don't think they got the intended message from 1984.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:...which means Dem's don't need to actually do anything to win those votes other than sit back... Good thing, since this is the one thing Democrats are great at. radical meme posted:It would be glorious if some Democratic sugar daddy, none exist of course, would start a PAC and run ads, starting just a few days before the general election, asking all true conservatives to write-in McDaniel's name, telling the rubes to ignore anybody saying it won't count and with a legal disclaimer at the end of the ad, in very, very small print saying, "Your write-in vote will only count if Thad Cochran dies before the polls close on election day". They could even use audio and printed quotes from such luminaries as Mark Levin and Sarah Palin praising McDaniel and condemning Cochran. You haven't been receiving your Soros' checks for posting here? Pick up the phone.
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radical meme posted:The title of that article is "Benham Brothers Ready To Die In Battle". Why is every right wing cause an actual war? My favourite thing about this is the quote from the Christian Post in this article where the guy goes, "You have to be ready to die. I mean, we had to lose a TV show and a book deal." YEP. TOTALLY THE SAME. They do know that gay people get actually murdered for being gay, right? They don't lose TV shows and book deals, they lose their literal lives. But, yeah, what a dystopia we live in, where businesses choose not to sign contracts because they fear they might lose money on the deal.
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radical meme posted:It would be glorious if some Democratic sugar daddy, none exist of course, would start a PAC and run ads, starting just a few days before the general election, asking all true conservatives to write-in McDaniel's name, telling the rubes to ignore anybody saying it won't count and with a legal disclaimer at the end of the ad, in very, very small print saying, "Your write-in vote will only count if Thad Cochran dies before the polls close on election day". They could even use audio and printed quotes from such luminaries as Mark Levin and Sarah Palin praising McDaniel and condemning Cochran. But remember guys it's totally the liberals who promote voter fraud 
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Jun 28, 2014 19:59
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Hazo posted:This almost worked in Virginia in 2012 when the GOP ran TV ads telling the elderly to vote on the wrong days. Glenn Beck did this a few times as well. He played it off as a joke but he'd tell Democratic callers to vote on the wrong day. He'd "helpfully" inform them that something got screwed up and the message didn't get out so be sure to tell all your democratic friends to go to the polls a day later than usual. That sort of poo poo should be maximum illegal.
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Jun 28, 2014 20:02
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In 2012 Maricopa County in Arizona put out Spanish language flyers with the wrong date as well.
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Look, it's OK for them to do it. They're trying to get the right kind of people elected and keep the
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So like so many other things, it goes back to "the only moral welfare/abortion/voter fraud/etc. is MY welfare/abortion/voter fraud/etc." I think Cliven Bundy even said something along these lines when that CNN host asked him "hey, aren't YOU a welfare queen too?"
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Jun 28, 2014 20:27
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Berke Negri posted:Anyone not bred in an Austrian Economics/Koch funded lab by this point who is young and 'conservative' but sensible and a possible future in politics (business, professionals) has jumped ship to independent or democrat by this point I feel from my own interactions in a red state. Oh I agree, the "moderate" conservative is just as much of a bigoted, union busting, kill the middle class, corporate neo-feudalist, anti-science fucker as any teabagger. The difference is one of rhetoric and vitriol not actual policy. Really no part of the republican party platform is in anyway ok.
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Leofish posted:My favourite thing about this is the quote from the Christian Post in this article where the guy goes, "You have to be ready to die. I mean, we had to lose a TV show and a book deal." It's some bizarre mind set done by the Evangelical movement It's sad because there is some real persecutions of Christians around the world which kind of get minimized by comparison by these selfish assholes. It'd be like me complaining about my steak not being medium rare at a restaurant, while a starving kid from Ethiopia is just staring at me.
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Axetrain posted:Oh I agree, the "moderate" conservative is just as much of a bigoted, union busting, kill the middle class, corporate neo-feudalist, anti-science fucker as any teabagger. The difference is one of rhetoric and vitriol not actual policy. Really no part of the republican party platform is in anyway ok. The big difference between the baggers and the establishment is that the establishment only gives a real gently caress about things that would upset their corporate funders. The baggers will be upset about anything the establishment tells them to be. The problem is that the baggers will die on the ideological crosses well after the establishment needs them too, leading to the hilarious state of the current baggers where they have become the party bus and the brake line has been cut.
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On the topic of Christian right wing nutters. http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2014/apr/17/christ-and-self-defense-police-officer-lays-out-bi/ Basically, he saw the new Rambo, Got hard, then wrote a book saying that shooting people in the name of Christ is awesome.
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pengun101 posted:On the topic of Christian right wing nutters. The comments to that article are for the most part pretty level headed. I was shocked. Personally, that cop scares the poo poo out of me.
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The Ape of Naples posted:The comments to that article are for the most part pretty level headed. I was shocked. Personally, that cop scares the poo poo out of me. So this psycho has to comb the Bible for three years to find a theological justification for taking human lives. Funny that he leaves out the Gospels entirely in his list of sources but I guess Jesus telling people to turn the other cheek is just too pesky a detail to want to think about.
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Zwabu posted:Doesn't any of the news coverage of wingnut outrage over Dems voting for Cochran mention a little thing called "Operation Chaos"? Wanna know a secret? I live in MS. There was a massive push for the run off. Way bigger than the actual primary. While I don't doubt whether or not any Democrats went out and voted for Cochran, I seriously doubt it was a significant amount. I, personally, didn't even know about the primary date. I knew all about the run off and saw a ridiculous amount of organizing and "get out the vote" politicking over it.
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Good rebuttal to Coulter's column (not that she deserves a response): http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/27/world-cup-fever-america-ann-coulter-football-socialism-team-usa The Guardian posted:In any case, are American sports really a Randian festival of untrammelled capitalist heroics, as she claims? Besides being more arcane, bureaucratic and hyper-managed than anything the Soviet Union ever dreamt up, the draft system used in most American team sports sends the very best young players to the clubs that did most poorly the previous season, in order to establish parity and fairness the following season. Have you ever heard of anything more socialist in your life? As if that wasn't enough, the NFL, MBA and NHL even have salary caps! Negotiated by – wait for it – trade unions! The MLB, meanwhile, has something called a "luxury tax" on its richest teams. What kind of lefty nonsense is this? ...well, except for calling the NBA the MBA (unless that's a swipe at how rediculous basketball salaries can get).
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law
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amishbuttermaster posted:So this psycho has to comb the Bible for three years to find a theological justification for taking human lives. Funny that he leaves out the Gospels entirely in his list of sources but I guess Jesus telling people to turn the other cheek is just too pesky a detail to want to think about. I immediately thought of this verse, which I have heard from conservative Christians as justification for owning guns. He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.” —Luke 22:36, NIV I always just chalked it up to lousy Bible continuity and editing, which is prevalent throughout the tales. However, when looking the verse up just now, I learned that Jesus was just putting on a show so he could get caught and executed, talk about a martyr complex! http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sell_your_cloak_and_buy_a_sword
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sleepingbuddha posted:
Pretty much, a verse later is Luke 22:38 which reads "They said, “'Lord, look, here are two swords.' He replied, 'It is enough.'" It's pretty clear that even a sola scriptura Protestant shouldn't take the preceding passage as allowing killing or even accumulating weapons.
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sleepingbuddha posted:I immediately thought of this verse, which I have heard from conservative Christians as justification for owning guns. Is this one of those that only appears in Luke and not, say, Matthew and Mark? Luke was unusual in a lot ways. Given the timeframe of that scene this is where he also said that if you live by the sword you'll die by the sword.
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I'm not a biblical scholar, but I don't think there's any indication that Jesus ever wanted those swords to actually be used. My interpretation is that the swords are there to force a reaction. Unarmed, Jesus could be ignored, but when he shows up with armed followers, they HAVE to arrest him. A contemporary example might be the Black Panthers protest at the Capitol in Sacramento. I don't think they planned on shooting, but they forced a completely different reaction than what would have occurred if they had shown up unarmed.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I'm not a biblical scholar, but I don't think there's any indication that Jesus ever wanted those swords to actually be used. He also didn't want people to retaliate against violence done to them. But hey, that Jesus, he's a warrior you know. A warrior that did not believe that aggression, violence or retaliation would actually do anyone any good. I love how this cop does the usual pseudo-science/history/scholarship thing and find evidence out of context to support his hypothesis rather than letting the evidence speak for itself.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I'm not a biblical scholar, but I don't think there's any indication that Jesus ever wanted those swords to actually be used. IIRC from Reza Aslan's book, that is exactly the reason. He immediately tells them to lay down their arms once he is arrested.
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