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axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer

The Macaroni posted:

Random question about Harold & Maude. I never understood Harold's reaction in this scene:
Was he upset that she generally ignored him, and it took a (near-)death experience to get an emotional response from her?

Yeah, that's pretty much it. Harold gets so little warmth from his mother and so much of her energy towards him is trying to make him something she considers acceptable that he relishes just getting a genuine reaction that has something to do with him rather than what he gets normally.

In general Harold's Mom doesn't ignore him or not care about him but she also just doesn't want Harold to be the person he is and wants him to change to be her idea of what her Son should be. Harold is sort of a poo poo in the movie but his reaction to how his Mom treats him and his need to be accepted for who he is, is a genuine for a teenager. I think one of the main things that attracts him to Maude is she is someone who genuinely does not give poo poo how anyone else sees her and just is herself. She's been through the worst poo poo anyone on this planet has ever gone through because of who she was so gently caress anyone that wants her to be any different.

axelblaze fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Jun 27, 2014

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got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
How does Le Chiffre escape when Felix is going to arrest him near the end of Casino Royale? Is there a deleted scene that explains it? We never see Felix again.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

CzarChasm posted:

What the hell? The guy who wrote the Godfather scripted the first Superman movie?

ED: I suddenly feel, after typing, like this is not the first time this is pointed out and I've reacted with disbelief.

Mario Puzo was the initial screenwriter and ended up producing a gigantic bible-sized screenplay that would have been 6-8 hours long. David and Leslie Newman (writers of Superman III) did a revised draft from Puzo's initial one so it could actually been filmed for a 2-part movie. However, their script ended up being pretty silly and pretty much closer to the Batman TV show. Mankiewicz re-worked everything into something that can be produced into a great movie. Of course, it still has some terrible writing that works only because of the effectiveness (the ending of the first one is one of the most idiotic ideas committed to screen that miraculously works).

Puzo probably kept his credit more for prestige value since apparently very little other than the basic plot was kept. Also taking into consideration that he wasn't that great of a writer anyways (i.e. all the goofy poo poo about Sonny Corleone in The Godfather).

Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Jun 27, 2014

Ninja Gamer
Nov 3, 2004

Through howling winds and pouring rain, all evil shall fear The Hurricane!
What are some good examples of one actor playing two more-or-less unrelated characters in a film? e.g. Mr. Darling and Captain Hook, Earl McGraw and Esteban Vihaio.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

Ninja Gamer posted:

What are some good examples of one actor playing two more-or-less unrelated characters in a film? e.g. Mr. Darling and Captain Hook, Earl McGraw and Esteban Vihaio.

Eddie Murphy in several movies.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...
Peter Sellers in Strangelove, Jack Nicolson in Mars Attacks just off the top of my head

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

morestuff posted:

Eddie Murphy in several movies.

They said 'good examples'.

Bruce Campbell as Sebastian Happ and Elvis Presley in Bubba Ho-Tep maybe.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Ninja Gamer posted:

What are some good examples of one actor playing two more-or-less unrelated characters in a film? e.g. Mr. Darling and Captain Hook, Earl McGraw and Esteban Vihaio.

Steve Martin in The Jerk.

...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Ninja Gamer posted:

What are some good examples of one actor playing two more-or-less unrelated characters in a film? e.g. Mr. Darling and Captain Hook, Earl McGraw and Esteban Vihaio.

It's a miniseries and not a movie, but Angels In America stays true to its roots as a stage play by having every cast member play several bit roles as well as their main character; Meryl Streep alone plays a rabbi, Ethel Rosenberg, a concerned Mormon mother, and an angel.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer

Ninja Gamer posted:

What are some good examples of one actor playing two more-or-less unrelated characters in a film? e.g. Mr. Darling and Captain Hook, Earl McGraw and Esteban Vihaio.

Cloud Atlas is both a good and bad example of this.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Oh, pretty much everybody plays at least two or three roles in O Lucky Man! too, and that movie's amazing so watch it.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
Mel Brooks casts himself as a lot of different roles in several movies he directs.

And Monty Python movies have a bunch of people playing multiple roles. Sometimes even some gender bendery stuff. :ohdear:

axleblaze posted:

Cloud Atlas is both a good and bad example of this.

Yeah.

...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

axleblaze posted:

Cloud Atlas is both a good and bad example of this.

Tom Hanks also plays a half-dozen different roles in the (awful) mo-cap nightmare The Polar Express.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming
They're all related, so I guess it doesn't qualify, but Alec Guiness is awesome in Kind Hearts and Coronets

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

morestuff posted:

They're all related, so I guess it doesn't qualify, but Alec Guiness is awesome in Kind Hearts and Coronets

For relations you'd also have BttF sequels.

BOAT SHOWBOAT
Oct 11, 2007

who do you carry the torch for, my young man?
Charlie Chaplin's The Great Dictator.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

syscall girl posted:

They said 'good examples'.

Coming To America, The Nutty Professor.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

The Nutty Professor.
I havent seen it since it came out but is it really still a funny movie 16 years later? All I remember is *farts*.

egon_beeblebrox
Mar 1, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



I used to have a link to an article about the bizarre production history of the "Street Fighter" movie, but can't find it any more. Anyone know where to find it?

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Cage posted:

I havent seen it since it came out but is it really still a funny movie 16 years later? All I remember is *farts*.

It did have Dave Chappelle. And that fart scene is hilarious.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

egon_beeblebrox posted:

I used to have a link to an article about the bizarre production history of the "Street Fighter" movie, but can't find it any more. Anyone know where to find it?

Here you go.

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


Thank you for the interesting replies on scriptwriters and revisions!

Dr_Amazing
Apr 15, 2006

It's a long story

Wow with all that it's amazing it turned out as good as it did.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Cage posted:

I havent seen it since it came out but is it really still a funny movie 16 years later? All I remember is *farts*.

Yeah, it's still funny and Eddie takes care to make Sherman a sympathetic character, which he could've easily not been.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:


What the gently caress is up with the font on that article. Caveat: I'm on linux. But the ascenders are all kinds of hosed up.

seymore
Jan 9, 2012


That is actually very interesting. The article does a good job in explaining how hectic filming a movie can be. Thank you for finding the link.

Skeevy Mcgee
Feb 17, 2007

Ninja Gamer posted:

What are some good examples of one actor playing two more-or-less unrelated characters in a film? e.g. Mr. Darling and Captain Hook, Earl McGraw and Esteban Vihaio.

In From Dusk til Dawn, Cheech Marin plays a border guard, the doorman of the Titty Twister, and the guy who is supposed to help Seth and Richard disappear.



Now for a question of my own, where did this shot come from: a swordsman is surrounded, they touch their sword, and everyone circling them shrinks back for a second.

There's an example in Kill Bill during the House of Blue Leaves fight, and I also just noticed it happening a lot in the second part of the Samurai Trilogy. Is that movie what Tarantino was specifically referencing, or was it a somewhat common thing in Samurai movies?

Fake edit:

penismightier
Dec 6, 2005

What the hell, I'll just eat some trash.

Skeevy Mcgee posted:

In From Dusk til Dawn, Cheech Marin plays a border guard, the doorman of the Titty Twister, and the guy who is supposed to help Seth and Richard disappear.



Now for a question of my own, where did this shot come from: a swordsman is surrounded, they touch their sword, and everyone circling them shrinks back for a second.

There's an example in Kill Bill during the House of Blue Leaves fight, and I also just noticed it happening a lot in the second part of the Samurai Trilogy. Is that movie what Tarantino was specifically referencing, or was it a somewhat common thing in Samurai movies?

Fake edit:


I can't carbon date it but that feels real Shaw Brothers to me.

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

What are some examples of characters who don't speak in movies? Specifically I'm talking about plot-important characters with lots of screen time, but who still don't get any lines. The two big examples I can think of would be the Sampler in Upstream Color and BOB* in Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me. I guess Harpo Marx types would count, but I'm not really looking for pantomime. Mainly I'm wondering if they generally tend toward being supernatural/otherworldly, like those first two examples do.

Also as a side note, would this kind of thing screw with the system Hollywood uses for credits and the like?

*I know he has a few lines in the show, but excluding any in the film seemed like a deliberate choice.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

Nolanar posted:

What are some examples of characters who don't speak in movies? Specifically I'm talking about plot-important characters with lots of screen time, but who still don't get any lines. The two big examples I can think of would be the Sampler in Upstream Color and BOB* in Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me. I guess Harpo Marx types would count, but I'm not really looking for pantomime. Mainly I'm wondering if they generally tend toward being supernatural/otherworldly, like those first two examples do.

Also as a side note, would this kind of thing screw with the system Hollywood uses for credits and the like?

*I know he has a few lines in the show, but excluding any in the film seemed like a deliberate choice.

The big bad at the end of[REC]
Pink in The Wall as far as I remember. Wait, he does say Stop! at one point iirc.
er, Godot in Waiting for Godot (although this fails your screen time test)

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

regulargonzalez posted:

The big bad at the end of[REC]
Pink in The Wall as far as I remember. Wait, he does say Stop! at one point iirc.
er, Godot in Waiting for Godot (although this fails your screen time test)

Pink has a whole speech in The Wall. "up against the wall" and all that.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

syscall girl posted:

Pink has a whole speech in The Wall. "up against the wall" and all that.

Ah, true enough

Dr. Puppykicker
Oct 16, 2012

Meanwhile

Skeevy Mcgee posted:

Now for a question of my own, where did this shot come from: a swordsman is surrounded, they touch their sword, and everyone circling them shrinks back for a second.

I don't know if this is the origin of it, but it happens at the beginning of the spear duel in Kurosawa's The Hidden Fortress

A little before 1:30 in this clip: http://vimeo.com/7051676

Skeevy Mcgee
Feb 17, 2007

penismightier posted:

I can't carbon date it but that feels real Shaw Brothers to me.

Thanks! I've only just started getting into samurai/kung fu movies, and this inspired me to put 5 Deadly Venoms on reserve at the library.


Dr. Puppykicker posted:

I don't know if this is the origin of it, but it happens at the beginning of the spear duel in Kurosawa's The Hidden Fortress

A little before 1:30 in this clip: http://vimeo.com/7051676

Another one I haven't seen, although for the record, the seceond Samurai Trilogy movie (Duel at Ichijoji Temple) predates Hidden Fortress by 3 years.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Post on the Martial Arts films thread.

Skunkduster
Jul 15, 2005




Nolanar posted:

What are some examples of characters who don't speak in movies? Specifically I'm talking about plot-important characters with lots of screen time, but who still don't get any lines. The two big examples I can think of would be the Sampler in Upstream Color and BOB* in Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me. I guess Harpo Marx types would count, but I'm not really looking for pantomime. Mainly I'm wondering if they generally tend toward being supernatural/otherworldly, like those first two examples do.

Also as a side note, would this kind of thing screw with the system Hollywood uses for credits and the like?

*I know he has a few lines in the show, but excluding any in the film seemed like a deliberate choice.

Silent Bob. If you want to include horror movies, there is Leatherface, Jason Voorhees, and Michael Myers.

Ninja Gamer
Nov 3, 2004

Through howling winds and pouring rain, all evil shall fear The Hurricane!

Nolanar posted:

What are some examples of characters who don't speak in movies? Specifically I'm talking about plot-important characters with lots of screen time, but who still don't get any lines. The two big examples I can think of would be the Sampler in Upstream Color and BOB* in Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me. I guess Harpo Marx types would count, but I'm not really looking for pantomime. Mainly I'm wondering if they generally tend toward being supernatural/otherworldly, like those first two examples do.

Also as a side note, would this kind of thing screw with the system Hollywood uses for credits and the like?

*I know he has a few lines in the show, but excluding any in the film seemed like a deliberate choice.

Roach in The People Under the Stairs.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

SkunkDuster posted:

Silent Bob. If you want to include horror movies, there is Leatherface, Jason Voorhees, and Michael Myers.

Doesn't Silent Bob typically have one big "this is the theme of the movie" speech per film?

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

regulargonzalez posted:

Doesn't Silent Bob typically have one big "this is the theme of the movie" speech per film?

Yeah I remembered that happening a lot but probably not in Clerks, right? Yeah even in Clerks, Smith has to get the last word in.

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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

regulargonzalez posted:

Doesn't Silent Bob typically have one big "this is the theme of the movie" speech per film?

No, I think he only has a monolog in Chasing Amy, he has a line or two in all the others, but the only real "Oh,that's the point" moment is in Clerks when he points out that Dante is trying to cheat on a woman who made him lasagna. But that was just one sentence, something along the lines of "I've dated a million women, but none of them made me lasagna," I thougt her changing a flat was more indicitive of devotion though (seriously, that's a pain in the rear end and I've faked injuries to get out of helping).

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