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Speaking of Icewind Dale, I'm running through it for the first time. Do I need to go and do the Heart of Winter stuff at some point during presumably Chapter 7 like ToTSC, or is there some way to do it after completing the main campaign like with ToB? Additionally, I'm assuming I shouldn't worry about level-capping out on my first play through since Heart of Fury mode is essentially a New Game+, right?
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Arivia posted:Speaking of Icewind Dale, I'm running through it for the first time. Do I need to go and do the Heart of Winter stuff at some point during presumably Chapter 7 like ToTSC, or is there some way to do it after completing the main campaign like with ToB? The expansion can be done during the main game at any point before the point of no return involving turning in a full set of badges. It can also be started with the end of game save. I like the latter so as to not make the original end boss a joke. Related note, Luremaster must be done before the point of no return involving storming an island hideout. There's no preset way to load directly in but in a pinch you can load your party into a new HoW game with your end of game save and go directly to the Luremaster if you miss it. I think its even tough to level cap in a HoF game but you have the right idea.
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Jun 26, 2014 12:05
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Another possible issue with the IWD2 fixpack (again, dunno if this is native to the game or due to the mod) - the Yuan-Ti leader in the third level of Dragon's Eye (the one who's getting swamped by efreeti), after summoning his snake mob, turns into a snake and teleports away. He's supposed to reappear elsewhere in the level but he doesn't, I assume there's a trigger that hasn't fired.
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Jun 27, 2014 02:41
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I just bought BG2:EE in the steam sale, should I be installing any fixes/mods/etc or just click-and-play? Thanks.
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Jun 28, 2014 22:31
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Are there certain races that party members just won't romance?
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Jun 29, 2014 00:25
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BAILOUT MCQUACK! posted:Are there certain races that party members just won't romance? Yep, but it varies by character. Can't remember the restrictions off the top of my head.
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Jun 29, 2014 00:31
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Basically half orc, gnome, halfling, dwarf won't be romanced by anyone.
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Jun 29, 2014 00:36
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cheesetriangles posted:Basically half orc, gnome, halfling, dwarf won't be romanced by anyone. Viconia romances half-orcs, Aerie romances gnomes.
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Jun 29, 2014 00:46
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BG2EE and BGEE are 75% off on steam right now. If you haven't picked them up they're pretty good. There's a few bugs in BG2EE, but they can be worked around with EE keeper. I feel the UI redesign is worth the price they're asking right now.
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Jun 29, 2014 00:50
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MegaGatts posted:BG2EE and BGEE are 75% off on steam right now. If you haven't picked them up they're pretty good. There's a few bugs in BG2EE, but they can be worked around with EE keeper. I feel the UI redesign is worth the price they're asking right now. What are the bugs?
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Jun 29, 2014 01:27
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Some lovely and ridiculous ones include: You can only ever use the Slayer Transformation once; Luck permanently fucks you over by removing weapon proficiencies; Drow equipment crashes your game after you leave the Underdark; dividing stacks can crash your game.
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Jun 29, 2014 02:35
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John McCain posted:Some lovely and ridiculous ones include: You can only ever use the Slayer Transformation once; Luck permanently fucks you over by removing weapon proficiencies; Drow equipment crashes your game after you leave the Underdark; dividing stacks can crash your game. The overhaul forums have literal thousands of unsolved bug reports, its hilarious Basic Chunnel posted:Another possible issue with the IWD2 fixpack (again, dunno if this is native to the game or due to the mod) - the Yuan-Ti leader in the third level of Dragon's Eye (the one who's getting swamped by efreeti), after summoning his snake mob, turns into a snake and teleports away. He's supposed to reappear elsewhere in the level but he doesn't, I assume there's a trigger that hasn't fired. I'll check it out when I get up, thanks man.
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Jun 29, 2014 02:41
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John McCain posted:Some lovely and ridiculous ones include: You can only ever use the Slayer Transformation once; Luck permanently fucks you over by removing weapon proficiencies; Drow equipment crashes your game after you leave the Underdark; dividing stacks can crash your game. Why is that last one a problem? Ditch the drow gear, poo poo turns to dust anyways unless you can figure out a way to exploit and always travel at night.
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Jun 29, 2014 02:54
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It's just ridiculous that it crashes the game.ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:The overhaul forums have literal thousands of unsolved bug reports, its hilarious the "hilarious" part is that Trent Oster hopes for a 2-month timeframe to get another patch out, which will bring us dangerously close to a year since the last one
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Jun 29, 2014 03:00
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I was debating grabbing them if they went on sale, but you guys aren't exactly giving glowing recommendations. Are the three new companions worth ditching the relative stability of just playing BGT with a widescreen mod? Is there anything substantial added otherwise? I ask because I just started BG1 again and before I get too far in wonder if I should just make the leap to BGEE. Also, now that I have a better understanding of the game in general, some random questions: -Outside of the fact that the plot foists them on you, is there any reason to keep Khalid and Jaheira? Khalid is absolute garbage, and Jaheira's fighter class seems to just slow her leveling down instead of giving any substantial combat benefits. -Is it viable/worthwhile to start the game as a mage, choose the Familiar and Identify spells but then immediately dual to fighter like a level later? Seems like combining the fighter's high hit points with the familiar's bonus could be potentially lucrative, and Identify is more so I could roll with Edwin without the hassle of not having it. -Why the hell did they hide both a companion and a shop in a completely nondescript building facing away from the player in Beregost? I didn't even know he existed until my current playthrough! And he's literally the only companion with regenerating health too, making him a million times more useful than any of the other early-game companions. -Which is better long term for fighters; two-handed weapon style, two weapon style or sword and shield?
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Jun 29, 2014 03:38
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Jeheira is super strong, Khalid is garbage and I would have him suicide and ditch his corpse if you ditch him while he is alive jaheria leaves with him. Dual classing from a mage to a fighter at level 1 is incredibly dumb, because bg 1 is werid, sword and shield style is worthless to put points in but using a 1 handed weapon with a shield can be okay.
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Jun 29, 2014 03:43
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Ginette Reno posted:Why is that last one a problem? Ditch the drow gear, poo poo turns to dust anyways unless you can figure out a way to exploit and always travel at night. Because at the very least tons of people will be dividing stacks of potions and something so basic crashing the game is dumb. Also, if you're not previously familiar with Forgotten Realms bullshit lore you're gonna keep all that sweet rear end Drow loot because it's great and then your game crashes.
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Jun 29, 2014 03:46
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pmchem posted:What are the bugs? The one Im thinking of is the slayer form only has one use.
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Jun 29, 2014 03:52
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The whole gimmick being a mage is that if you can survive level 1 (which takes a lot more xp than most other classes) with poo poo hp, poo poo thac0, poo poo weapons, no armour and virtually zero spells, you get paid off in spades later on. Struggling through level 1 mage and then going into fighter instead is a really bad plan. Sword/Shield style is maybe worth a pip in BG1 since you'll probably be using a shield anyway in that game (to counter the arrow supremacy), but it's going to be a wasted point in the end so you've basically got to choose between making things a little easier in BG1 vs. being one pip behind in your real proficiencies until about level 18 (or longer if you plan on dual-wielding two different weapon types).
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Jun 29, 2014 03:54
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Does EE remove the thing where you can just pause before the start of BG2 and drop all your insane gear, then Irenicus just taunts you like there's not an armory of the gods at your feet?
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Jun 29, 2014 03:59
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Jabor posted:The whole gimmick being a mage is that if you can survive level 1 (which takes a lot more xp than most other classes) with poo poo hp, poo poo thac0, poo poo weapons, no armour and virtually zero spells, you get paid off in spades later on. Struggling through level 1 mage and then going into fighter instead is a really bad plan. That's why I asked, it seemed like I was missing something obvious 
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Jun 29, 2014 04:36
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Wolfsheim posted:I was debating grabbing them if they went on sale, but you guys aren't exactly giving glowing recommendations. Are the three new companions worth ditching the relative stability of just playing BGT with a widescreen mod? Is there anything substantial added otherwise? I ask because I just started BG1 again and before I get too far in wonder if I should just make the leap to BGEE. BG2EE has fair amount of bugs as other's have said, but there should be at least one more patch coming for it. BGEE is pretty solid at this point, and BGEE 1.3 should be released any week now. The thing is though for me it would be pretty hard to go back to playing the vanilla games. There are enough useability and engine improvements that even modded BG1+2 just feels really clunky to me now.
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Jun 29, 2014 07:02
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Zilkin posted:BG2EE has fair amount of bugs as other's have said, but there should be at least one more patch coming for it. BGEE is pretty solid at this point, and BGEE 1.3 should be released any week now. The thing is though for me it would be pretty hard to go back to playing the vanilla games. There are enough useability and engine improvements that even modded BG1+2 just feels really clunky to me now. I'd agree to this. Get both while they are cheap, and you can comfortably start BG1 now as it is in pretty good shape without the "final" 1.3 patch, but you can always wait. BGII, though, I would take advantage of the price but wait for the patch, but you have I in the meantime to tide you over.
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Jun 29, 2014 18:25
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I actually ended up getting both (so cheap) but I do notice some lag (I am playing on a very basic machine with a pretty old graphics card) which is surprising since I didn't think they would touch the actual graphics much? I dunno. Should I not be running it in windowed mode? I like the UI layout but I kinda wish they would've kept the original fonts. Whatever basic serif typeface they're using looks straight out of a word processor. Also, what's the deal with the new character options? Just running a character through the opening scenes of both BG1+2 I noticed that each one seems to offer new voices and portraits, but different ones for each game? What? Why?
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Jun 29, 2014 21:45
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I got BG2:EE for that $6.50 sale hoping to kill some time after an injury, and I'm amazed it's cleared for release. The screen literally doesn't refresh when in focus. Whether fullscreen or windowed, I have to alt-tab in and out of the program to make any choices in the menus, same goes for gameplay. It's completely useless. Windows 8.1 with an i5-4570 (integrated HD4600 GPU), no system tweaks to blame. I got the first one during a similar sale a year or more ago, it worked fine on a crappy Vista+Atom330 computer. Any ideas about the nature of this bug?
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Jun 30, 2014 00:46
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Probably a problem with your os/intel graphics. I've never heard of that problem before.
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Jun 30, 2014 00:49
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The EE games definitely have higher requirements than the original versions. Original BG2 could do fine on an old netbook but EE drops the framerate on old machines precipitously whenever an AoE spell goes into effect.
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Jun 30, 2014 00:56
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Just got done installing big world project and it is time to gently caress up some kobolds. Finally got all these mods installed without errors.
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Jun 30, 2014 05:09
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Someone got a link to a list of all the arcane and divine spells that overlap? Figured I wouldn't teach Aerie anything she is going to learn anyway naturally.
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Jun 30, 2014 05:51
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BAILOUT MCQUACK! posted:Someone got a link to a list of all the arcane and divine spells that overlap? Figured I wouldn't teach Aerie anything she is going to learn anyway naturally. Remove Fear, Hold Person, and Protection From Evil (but not protection from evil 10' radius.) There's not much.
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Arivia posted:Remove Fear, Hold Person, and Protection From Evil (but not protection from evil 10' radius.) and dispel magic. Its important to note that the fifth level cleric spell true sight and the sixth level mage spell true seeing are not the same thing. Notably the cleric spell doesn't work on liches.
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Jun 30, 2014 06:38
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cheesetriangles posted:Just got done installing big world project and it is time to gently caress up some kobolds. Finally got all these mods installed without errors. You're going to have a lot of not fun, unless you enjoy bad mods ironically or something.
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Jun 30, 2014 07:31
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Skwirl posted:You're going to have a lot of not fun, unless you enjoy bad mods ironically or something. Or if you're not a mod snob :P
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Jun 30, 2014 07:39
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Vorgen posted:Or if you're not a mod snob :P I read a good portion of your LP and it's entertaining, but never something I'd want to try myself. And I think you actively avoid, or are just lucky about not seeing the creepiest mods
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Jun 30, 2014 07:48
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zedprime posted:The expansion can be done during the main game at any point before the point of no return involving turning in a full set of badges. It can also be started with the end of game save. I like the latter so as to not make the original end boss a joke. Just reached this point, and I thought I'd offer a tip for anyone else who did this. It worked fine, but be sure to make a save at the point of no return (before you put the badges in.) The export worked well, and IWD automatically imported my party into Heart of Winter - but minus one thing. Any bags I was carrying from the IWD fix/tweak pack (scroll case, gem bag, bag of holding) were gone, and anything in them. So I have to go back to my backup save and finish the game with god mode on and taking anything really good out of the bags first (because wow that was a hell of a tough ending.)
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Wolfsheim posted:That's why I asked, it seemed like I was missing something obvious Actually, your plan wasn't that bad. Getting to level 2 isn't THAT difficult, especially as a mage since you can just mostly roll through levels ~1-5 with sleep. It's not worth doing it just for the familiar or identify spell, but for the access to mage only equipment though. The real downside to your plan is that you're not going to be able to pick a kit for your fighter class, but getting scroll casting and the ability to use wands is easily worth the trade-off. So by all means, pick a specialist mage class of your liking, roll stats for a fighter, get sleep + whatever (I recommend blind, it's op) as your first two spells, dual class when you have the chance and have fun. Don't ignore your spellcasting ability (sleep & blind are very useful level 1 spells - sleep for killing large packs of trash monsters, blind for taking out spellcasters/other tough enemies out of the fight) and remember to use scrolls. If you're not saving a spellscroll for someone else to memorize, or for some specific purpose, just throw it in your fighter's quickbar and cast it at the first gibberling you see. If this is a BGEE only run, you should try to max out your longbow proficiency, with extra points going into whatever back up melee weapon you like. Your initial mage proficiency point is probably best spent on daggers. verybad fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Jun 30, 2014 |
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Being real, there really are no bad choices for BG class builds (well, excepting maybe straight-up fighting monks), but the level 2 dual class build, while viable, is comparatively worse than most other choices you could make as a straight-up kitted fighter in terms of short term and long-term gain (in other words, don't dual-class just to avoid headaches you'll only experience in the first 2-3 levels of the game). A blade is a great caster-fighter with quick leveling. As a solo build the dual-class probably fares better.
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Basic Chunnel posted:Being real, there really are no bad choices for BG class builds (well, excepting maybe straight-up fighting monks), but the level 2 dual class build, while viable, is comparatively worse than most other choices you could make as a straight-up kitted fighter in terms of short term and long-term gain (in other words, don't dual-class just to avoid headaches you'll only experience in the first 2-3 levels of the game). A blade is a great caster-fighter with quick leveling. As a solo build the dual-class probably fares better. I think as a solo build Blade is a a poo poo ton better than a wizard 1/ fighter X. Fast leveling doesn't quite let you keep pace with fighter HP, but it helps. You still get the familiar, and just access to second and third level spells is awesome. Mirror image, Blur, Haste. Those three make you an unkillable beast alone.
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Jun 30, 2014 09:16
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Skwirl posted:And I think you actively avoid, or are just lucky about not seeing the creepiest mods Nope, they're just all in BG2. We'll get to them eventually!
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Vorgen posted:Nope, they're just all in BG2. We'll get to them eventually! This is why when people ask about the Big World mod I tell them don't. There's already been a play through with Saerliss (or whatever, the horny 15 year old paladin Mary Sue), so skip that at least for Christ's sake. Air Skwirl fucked around with this message at 09:25 on Jun 30, 2014 |
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