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DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

also if you pull more stuff out of the main app and write it in a language your coworkers don't know it drastically reduces the chances that they will start writing in line javascript in your controllers

# ? Jun 28, 2014 17:30

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# ? May 12, 2024 17:42

Flaming June: Oct 21, 2004

unless we are talking about backbone.js, then bro what is a controller??

but yeah i look at it as a gateway to other stuff. webdev beats the pants off of any other job type i have ever had

# ? Jun 28, 2014 18:14

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

Flaming June posted:

unless we are talking about backbone.js, then bro what is a controller??

but yeah i look at it as a gateway to other stuff. webdev beats the pants off of any other job type i have ever had

reminder that in the end we edit text files for ridiculous amounts of money and that sure as gently caress beats nailing physical things together

# ? Jun 28, 2014 19:43

theadder: Dec 30, 2011

did the computar halp thread disappear?

# ? Jun 28, 2014 22:34

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

Dessert Rose posted:

reminder that in the end we edit text files for ridiculous amounts of money and that sure as gently caress beats nailing physical things together

whenever my job seems lovely i remind myself of this

# ? Jun 28, 2014 23:28

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Soricidus posted:

webdev update: loving hell I do not envy anyone who has to do this full time. how have you not killed yourselves yet. how in satans name did this clusterfuck of terrible languages and terrible libraries using unmaintainable hacks to reinvent the wheel on a worse foundation become accepted as the future of computing

"deploying software is hard"

# ? Jun 29, 2014 10:16

Moist von Lipwig: Oct 28, 2006; by FactsAreUseless; Tortured By Flan

Dessert Rose posted:

reminder that in the end we edit text files for ridiculous amounts of money and that sure as gently caress beats nailing physical things together

it wouldnt if people who nailed poo poo together got paid what they deserve

# ? Jun 29, 2014 20:50

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:

i use postincrement always because imo it looks nicer and if you care about the ordering of side effects or the compiler can't optimize properly because of your side effects then gently caress YOU gently caress YOU gently caress YOU

this forever

# ? Jun 29, 2014 23:45

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

Soricidus posted:

webdev update: loving hell I do not envy anyone who has to do this full time. how have you not killed yourselves yet. how in satans name did this clusterfuck of terrible languages and terrible libraries using unmaintainable hacks to reinvent the wheel on a worse foundation become accepted as the future of computing

because by the time those libraries coalesce into something manageable and reasonable they will be the past of computing

# ? Jun 30, 2014 00:42

Squinty Applebottom: Jan 1, 2013

webdev is fine if you ignore everything thats happened in the past 5 years

# ? Jun 30, 2014 00:55

MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

it kinda just sounds like you guys hate writing code

there's nothing inherently worse about webdev. all in all, the inanity of software development slowly kills us all

# ? Jun 30, 2014 06:31

double sulk: Jul 2, 2010

so i was looking at a scala library that someone tweeted needed help, popped open one of the test files and

code:

  trait M[T]

  val mi: M[Int] = new M[Int] {}
  val ms: M[String] = new M[String] {}
  val md: M[Double] = new M[Double] {}
  
  val mimsmimimd = mi :: ms :: mi :: mi :: md :: HNil
  val mimsmimimdList = mi :: ms :: mi :: mi :: md :: Nil
  val mimsmimimdSized = Sized[List](mi, ms, mi, mi, md)

  import language.existentials
  val mExist: M[_] = new M[Double] {}
  val mimsmimemd = mi :: ms :: mi :: mExist :: md :: HNil
  val mimsmimemdList = mi :: ms :: mi :: mExist :: md :: Nil
  val mimsmimemdSized = Sized[List](mi, ms, mi, mExist, md)

# ? Jun 30, 2014 15:11

fritz: Jul 26, 2003

the guy i work with has a habit of sending out manifestos to the company whenever he's mad, and one came out last night about how we're a small startup that can't afford big company development practices, and i think it's in direct response to me asking him in code review for a unit test

# ? Jun 30, 2014 15:24

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

i like doing this in perl

code:

next if $thing_i_dont_want

but you can't do it all in one nice line like that with python's continue :saddowns:

# ? Jun 30, 2014 17:07

Corla Plankun: May 8, 2007; improve the lives of everyone

ruby has a lot of cogent oneliners like that and i love them very much

# ? Jun 30, 2014 17:47

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

i really liked unless until i started working on a large and bad code base

# ? Jun 30, 2014 19:32

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:

i really liked thing until i started working

# ? Jun 30, 2014 19:47

MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

same except any art analysis course in college

# ? Jun 30, 2014 19:59

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud: Apr 7, 2003

USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:

large and bad

Mods?

# ? Jun 30, 2014 20:28

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

we have a lot of code like this at my job

code:

unless condition && condition && condition
 if condition && condition && condition  
     if condition && condition && condition
       unless condition && condition && condition
          return if condition 
          return unless condition
          return if condition 
          return unless condition 
       end 
     unless condition 
          return if condition 
          return unless condition
          return if condition 
          return unless condition 
     end 
    end 
  end 
  repeat in the same manner for 200 lines 
end

# ? Jun 30, 2014 20:41

Egan Yardley: Jun 11, 2010

Squinty Applebottom posted:

webdev is fine if you ignore everything thats happened in the past 5 years

i agree, use ajax forever

# ? Jun 30, 2014 20:45

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

MeruFM posted:

it kinda just sounds like you guys hate writing code

there's nothing inherently worse about webdev. all in all, the inanity of software development slowly kills us all

you could only think this if you've only ever done webdev or p-langs. webdev is poo poo. p-langs are poo poo.

# ? Jun 30, 2014 21:02

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

some languages are good. unfortunately they aren't the ones people are paying me money to write in. so it goes.

javascript is uniquely bad, though. it has the lack of safety and halfassed design of a typical plang, without the robust standard library that makes most plangs usable.

# ? Jun 30, 2014 21:57

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

a long time ago i remember downloading this program that was an x86 assembler (fasm i think) plus a built-in emulator that gave you PC hardware plus VGA output. so you'd write an asm program, press a button, and it would assemble it and load it into a PC emulator and debugger. you could write C modules that integrated with the program's parallel/serial outputs too. it was pretty neat to mess with. is there anything modern like that?

# ? Jun 30, 2014 22:06

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Luigi Thirty posted:

a long time ago i remember downloading this program that was an x86 assembler (fasm i think) plus a built-in emulator that gave you PC hardware plus VGA output. so you'd write an asm program, press a button, and it would assemble it and load it into a PC emulator and debugger. you could write C modules that integrated with the program's parallel/serial outputs too. it was pretty neat to mess with. is there anything modern like that?

get an arduino, write asm code to ~~drive a robot~~ ~~control your hvac~~ blink an led?

# ? Jun 30, 2014 23:26

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

Soricidus posted:

get an arduino, write asm code to ~~drive a robot~~ ~~control your hvac~~ blink an led?

i have one but i don't have video output and i want to write "boner" on a tv

# ? Jun 30, 2014 23:26

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

you could get an lcd display for it and make it scroll "boner" instead maybe

# ? Jun 30, 2014 23:28

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

get an fpga, shave the poo poo out of a yak, write you own vga|dvi|hdmi controller

# ? Jun 30, 2014 23:59

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

Soricidus posted:

you could get an lcd display for it and make it scroll "boner" instead maybe

already got one and done that. i can make my own poo poo to sell on kickstarter now

# ? Jul 1, 2014 00:04

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

well gently caress im out of ideas then, sorry

bloodys idea sounds pretty cool but if you can do that then you're probably in the wrong thread

# ? Jul 1, 2014 00:19

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

tbf its not difficult to find a vga or dvi core or w/e for an fpga (lol you cant link to subsections of opencores)

# ? Jul 1, 2014 00:39

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

here have a vga controller (b y o dac) http://ece.wpi.edu/~rjduck/vga_controller_640_60.vhd

# ? Jul 1, 2014 00:41

syntaxrigger: Jul 7, 2011; Actually you owe me 6! But who's countin?

Shaggar posted:

you could only think this if you've only ever done webdev or p-langs. webdev is poo poo. p-langs are poo poo.

what do you mean by 'doing p-langs'?

what else is there?

# ? Jul 1, 2014 01:24

fritz: Jul 26, 2003

Shaggar posted:

webdev is poo poo.

# ? Jul 1, 2014 01:52

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

syntaxrigger posted:

what do you mean by 'doing p-langs'?

what else is there?

your mom

# ? Jul 1, 2014 01:56

syntaxrigger: Jul 7, 2011; Actually you owe me 6! But who's countin?

Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:

your mom

clearly you have never met her

# ? Jul 1, 2014 01:58

z0rlandi viSSer: Nov 5, 2013

LARD LORD posted:

it wouldnt if people who nailed poo poo together got paid what they deserve

Yep. If I could make this money doing something other than IT i would leave IT immediately. I hate IT and it makes me unhappy.

but i like money

*fartz*

# ? Jul 1, 2014 01:59

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud: Apr 7, 2003

z0rlandi viSSer posted:

Yep. If I could make this money doing something other than IT i would leave IT immediately. I hate IT and it makes me unhappy.

but i like money

*fartz*

I like working in IT.

# ? Jul 1, 2014 02:06

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud: Apr 7, 2003

Then again I spend more time talking to the business people than to the IT people.

# ? Jul 1, 2014 02:06

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jony neuemonic: Nov 13, 2009

the worst part of programming is programmers.

# ? Jul 1, 2014 02:08

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