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Sickening posted:That just doesn't make any sense. Are we talking fiber to workstations? Man, the amount of money that must have added to... everything.
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Yes. It's the government, money doesn't matter.
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Jun 30, 2014 15:33
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Cojawfee posted:Yes. It's the government, money doesn't matter. Cojawfee posted:Yes. It's the government, money doesn't matter. If I walked into a place and workstations had hba cards I would laugh until someone walked me out of the building. Everyone involved in that kind of mess is retarded.
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Jun 30, 2014 15:35
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I've learned to accept that someone dumber than me has designed everything. I just have to live with it. I can't really go into it, but there's all kinds of retarded things where I work.
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Jun 30, 2014 15:37
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I just remember at my first internship, my lead told me not to touch or disrupt the fiber, then proceeded to demonstrate by flicking the cable with his finger. That was the day I learned how to call up the Fiber guys and request a splice because my boss was too embarrassed to do it himself.
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Jun 30, 2014 15:48
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Cojawfee posted:I've learned to accept that someone dumber than me has designed everything. I just have to live with it. I can't really go into it, but there's all kinds of retarded things where I work. That's not just dumb design though. A design that stupid has to be fraudulent in nature. Do you guys only purchase monster cables as well?
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Jun 30, 2014 15:56
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Fiber is usually used for SIPRnet workstations, while copper is used for NIPRnet workstations. We have our CSA come around once a month with a tape measure to make sure that no single piece of SIPRnet equipment lies within 20 inches of anything hooked up to the unclassified network. And yes, mice and keyboards are included.
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Jun 30, 2014 15:57
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Sickening posted:That's not just dumb design though. A design that stupid has to be fraudulent in nature. Do you guys only purchase monster cables as well? Yes. In this case there was probably corruption involved, the guy who sells fiber and HBAs was almost certainly someone's friend.
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Jun 30, 2014 15:58
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Sickening posted:That's not just dumb design though. A design that stupid has to be fraudulent in nature. Do you guys only purchase monster cables as well? The government is above the law.
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Jun 30, 2014 15:59
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Sickening posted:That's not just dumb design though. A design that stupid has to be fraudulent in nature. Do you guys only purchase monster cables as well? Yes but I heard Fiber is faster and we need to be as fast as possible! *Runs 10 year old Windows XP machine*
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Jun 30, 2014 16:00
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sfwarlock posted:I have a networking book that refers to office chairs as the natural enemy of fiber. I had the exact same question. Who the hell runs fiber to the desktop? TV/Film production if they're running Final Cut Pro or 10GbE Avid clients (one is Ethernet, the other Fibre Channel). Final Cut requires fiber (62.5 multimode if I remember correctly) and it's an absolute pain in the rear end. I once had to jerry rig a fiber run because someone wanted a double edit only to have it go down because someone decided to put a couch on the same wall as the fiber port. Fiber to the desktop is a massive headache but sadly necessary if you want to run Final Cut in a shared storage environment. You only see it in Avid if you want to do 10GbE to the edit system, usually for final finishing.
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Jun 30, 2014 16:02
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Renegret posted:Yes but I heard Fiber is faster and we need to be as fast as possible! *Runs 10 year old Windows XP machine* Oh, did you work there too?
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Jun 30, 2014 16:08
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Cojawfee posted:Oh, did you work there too? Upon further considering we've decided not to peruse Fiber. Once we found out that Fiber uses light, we became afraid that if this fiber connection were to break, all of our company secrets would spill out of the cable in clear view of prying eyes. Is it possible we could make Fiber work using Dark instead? This way it would be harder to see if it were to spill out.
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Jun 30, 2014 16:19
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I hear that Neal guy is big on dark matter, so maybe v2.0?
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Jun 30, 2014 16:21
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I can do anything. I am an expert.
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Jun 30, 2014 16:24
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Daylen Drazzi posted:Fiber is usually used for SIPRnet workstations, while copper is used for NIPRnet workstations. We have our CSA come around once a month with a tape measure to make sure that no single piece of SIPRnet equipment lies within 20 inches of anything hooked up to the unclassified network. And yes, mice and keyboards are included. But, IIRC correctly, they don't have a problem with the CD drives. After all, everyone likes to listen to Lady Gaga's greatest hits.
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Jun 30, 2014 16:24
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Sickening posted:That's not just dumb design though. A design that stupid has to be fraudulent in nature. Do you guys only purchase monster cables as well? But hurf durf TEMPEST/EMSEC/COMSEC IS HARD.
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Jun 30, 2014 16:27
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Renegret posted:Upon further considering we've decided not to peruse Fiber. Once we found out that Fiber uses light, we became afraid that if this fiber connection were to break, all of our company secrets would spill out of the cable in clear view of prying eyes. But what if a cable breaks and it gets dark in the office? How is the CSA going to read her tape measure? 
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Jun 30, 2014 16:31
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DrAlexanderTobacco posted:But what if a cable breaks and it gets dark in the office? How is the CSA going to read her tape measure? I know this is kind of a joke regarding secrets spilling, but the things that can be van eck phreaked is kinda insane.
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Jun 30, 2014 16:39
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If anyone hasn't seen this it's really funny and sometimes what this feels like.
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Jun 30, 2014 17:54
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I don't know who decided those regulations for you. Only hard drives are classified, not power cables, keyboards, or even laptops without a hard drive. Its perfectly acceptable to have 1 computer and swap hard drives to change classification levels. Also having 4 different classification computers right next to each other on the same desk. The only dumb precautions we took were physically separating the nipr scanner. How dumb do you need to be to scan pink paper on nipr?
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Jun 30, 2014 18:33
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lampey posted:I don't know who decided those regulations for you. Only hard drives are classified, not power cables, keyboards, or even laptops without a hard drive. Its perfectly acceptable to have 1 computer and swap hard drives to change classification levels. Also having 4 different classification computers right next to each other on the same desk. The only dumb precautions we took were physically separating the nipr scanner. How dumb do you need to be to scan pink paper on nipr? Dumb enough to enlist
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Jun 30, 2014 18:33
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I swear that video gets linked in one of the IT threads here every other day. I can understand why though, I don't think anyone who's worked in IT above helldesk level hasn't been in that situation. "We need to do this!" "Sorry, the laws of physics don't allow that." "I thought you were an expert?" 
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Jun 30, 2014 18:37
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lampey posted:I don't know who decided those regulations for you. Only hard drives are classified, not power cables, keyboards, or even laptops without a hard drive. Its perfectly acceptable to have 1 computer and swap hard drives to change classification levels. Also having 4 different classification computers right next to each other on the same desk. The only dumb precautions we took were physically separating the nipr scanner. How dumb do you need to be to scan pink paper on nipr? You can ask anyone ever who randomly ups the classification of a copier because they can't bother to look at a color coded label that clearly states what classification something is.
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Jun 30, 2014 18:39
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A ticket came in about a computer having "blue screen problems." I check the event logs, no sign of anything unusual. No crash dumps on the machine either. No signs of any toolbars/malware/etc. Attempts to contact the user for more information proved unsuccessful. Later that day I happened to be in the area so I took a look at it in person. The actual problem? VGA cable was loose and the screen was very blue as a result.
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Jun 30, 2014 18:43
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A couple months ago I started to transition user knowledge base articles from a dumb folder full of PDFs on the network share (that no one ever read), to the KB built into KACE that is user-accessible. Last week I finally opened up our KACE ticketing system to all users, and as part of that process, notified users of the existence of the knowledge base and how it would soon replace the old folder. Since building a bunch of articles, I've updated our KACE box from version 5.5 to 6.0. I hadn't looked at any of the KBs since the update. Just now I went to update one and found that since the update, all the articles have been stripped of their formatting. I can still view the articles on the user UI and they look fine, but the minute I open it on the admin side, all my formatting is gone, all my linked images are gone. All code has been stripped and only the article text remains. Dozens of articles and hours of work, all wasted. I'm more depressed about it than I am mad.
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Jun 30, 2014 20:15
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J posted:A ticket came in about a computer having "blue screen problems." I check the event logs, no sign of anything unusual. No crash dumps on the machine either. No signs of any toolbars/malware/etc. Attempts to contact the user for more information proved unsuccessful. Later that day I happened to be in the area so I took a look at it in person. Somewhat similarly, I've gotten a few tickets for a "blue screen" only to find out that explorer.exe didn't load (or crashed) so all they're seeing is the light-blue background.
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Jun 30, 2014 20:26
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Daylen Drazzi posted:Fiber is usually used for SIPRnet workstations, while copper is used for NIPRnet workstations. We have our CSA come around once a month with a tape measure to make sure that no single piece of SIPRnet equipment lies within 20 inches of anything hooked up to the unclassified network. And yes, mice and keyboards are included. They would've had a heart attack in Iraq. Also, upping the classification on copiers, that was funny with the HP digital senders. Trying to explain to a colonel his enlisted's gently caress up and how he can't unclass scan anymore got me an earful on one occasion. Spillage led to one of the funniest moments in my time in the land of sand and boomy: we got a hit that not allowed files had shown up on high side machines from IA so as per our operating procedures, sent the info off to the S6 SFC and he went around wrangling necks and machines to be checked out. So at one point, a SFC from another shop got busted for porn on his SIPR laptop. Going down the line, a specialist is busted for some dumbass game and he is beyond nervous. He's sitting in our office with his Sgt and the S6 SFC along with me and some of the guys I worked with. I look over at the nervous specialist and note he is fingering his m4's trigger, I cooly state, "Hey spec, mind not finger loving your weapon in my office?" The two NCOs look over at him and do a in unison face palm.
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Sirotan posted:A couple months ago I started to transition user knowledge base articles from a dumb folder full of PDFs on the network share (that no one ever read), to the KB built into KACE that is user-accessible. Last week I finally opened up our KACE ticketing system to all users, and as part of that process, notified users of the existence of the knowledge base and how it would soon replace the old folder. It's okay, no one ever reads KBs anyway. 
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Collateral Damage posted:I swear that video gets linked in one of the IT threads here every other day. I can understand why though, I don't think anyone who's worked in IT above helldesk level hasn't been in that situation. I view that video and all I can think is 'this is clearly one of those times when you're supposed to go all fuzzy-thinking right-brained and magically deduce that the client actually meant parallel lines." Doesn't explain the whole "green lines with red ink" bit, though...
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Jun 30, 2014 21:59
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sfwarlock posted:I view that video and all I can think is 'this is clearly one of those times when you're supposed to go all fuzzy-thinking right-brained and magically deduce that the client actually meant parallel lines." Doesn't explain the whole "green lines with red ink" bit, though... If you move towards them fast enough they'll look green.
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Jun 30, 2014 23:29
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sfwarlock posted:I have a networking book that refers to office chairs as the natural enemy of fiber. I had the exact same question. Who the hell runs fiber to the desktop? A few years back, JMU built a new tech building. Because they're a university, they had the money to afford all the very best. This included running fiber to the desktop in the student computer labs. That didn't last very long.
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spankmeister posted:There was a youtube about a fiber optic device that would be able to change the polarisation of the light on an optic signal. Well yeah, controlling polarization has been done for some time as one of the means by which to mitigate the effects of polarization mode dispersion. Now that coherent detectors are getting cheaper to manufacture, you can even use polarization division multiplexing in combination with a QPSK or QAM type modulation to achieve those 100G line rates.
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single-mode fiber posted:Well yeah, controlling polarization has been done for some time as one of the means by which to mitigate the effects of polarization mode dispersion. Now that coherent detectors are getting cheaper to manufacture, you can even use polarization division multiplexing in combination with a QPSK or QAM type modulation to achieve those 100G line rates. Nerd.
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Speaking of fiber: Does anyone know of a relatively cheap switch with two fiber ports and the rest copper? I need to do some backboning.
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sfwarlock posted:Speaking of fiber: How much management do you need, and how many copper ports? Also "backboning" 
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single-mode fiber posted:Well yeah, controlling polarization has been done for some time as one of the means by which to mitigate the effects of polarization mode dispersion. Now that coherent detectors are getting cheaper to manufacture, you can even use polarization division multiplexing in combination with a QPSK or QAM type modulation to achieve those 100G line rates. I bet you've been waiting to post about fiber since you made that account.
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sfwarlock posted:Speaking of fiber: Something like this, http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/networking-n2000-series/fs ?
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sfwarlock posted:Speaking of fiber: The most important level of clarification here is, what speed and distance?
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deimos posted:I bet you've been waiting to post about fiber since you made that account. I post about fiber at all times and in all places.
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