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Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Not having sex by choice or....

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Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

Radish posted:

Are we going to see nerds start being smug about not playing sports and then claiming that is a viable alternative to insurance covering injuries?

When nerds grow up some of them rip on sports and literally think that sports are dumb jock poo poo.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Sports are for nerds.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go upstairs and play competitive Starcraft.

*develops horrendous RSI*

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

Start using the best desktop environment now!
Choose KDE!

HL's employees are still getting all BC covered.

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
So they went on the national stage and looked like a bunch of assholes, alienating 51% of the population for.. what now?

Technical Analysis
Nov 21, 2007

I got 99 problems but the British ain't one.
It's on record they oppose it. God can't be mad at them now.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
Have the LoL and DoTA2 teams unionized yet?

Buried alive
Jun 8, 2009

Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:

HL's employees are still getting all BC covered.

What? Has HL just not made the proper change to their insurance policies or what?

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

Start using the best desktop environment now!
Choose KDE!

Buried alive posted:

What? Has HL just not made the proper change to their insurance policies or what?

The government is extending the accommodation already given to nonprofits. The insurance company will be required to pay for it.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Fox News Host Jessie Waters (Male)


quote:

“Hillary Clinton needs the single ladies vote. I call them ‘The Beyoncé Voters’ — the single ladies. Obama won single ladies by 76% last time, and made up about a quarter of the electorate. They depend on government because they’re not depending on their husbands. They need contraception, health care, and they love to talk about equal pay.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ehKQiFpOK4

Alterian
Jan 28, 2003

Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:

The government is extending the accommodation already given to nonprofits. The insurance company will be required to pay for it.

Isn't this kinda semantics in the end? Is their insurance going to cost pretty much exactly the same except the insurance company will foot the bill for birth control, or is their insurance really like 50 cents cheaper a month since it doesn't cover birth control?

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Hahahaha "they love to talk about equal pay" spoken as some sort of insult. Welcome to Fox News.

I don't have a vagina, a child or an absent significant other and I would be complaining about that poo poo too. This is America you're supposed to do whatever you can to get that cash.

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.
Just wanted to share this. The people on-camera are okay folks. The right wing insane person is off-camera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcElGjENI0M

'You know that term partner came from the homosexuals right.' :downs:

Gozinbulx
Feb 19, 2004
I must be in a bad mood or something cause god drat that comment finally broke the camels back for me. I hate this county.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


Welcome to the world of Todd Starnes. When he is not creating a Christian themed persecution complex, he writes conspiracy theory poo poo like this.

TL;DR - There is a camp that illegal immigrant children are being taken to. Disease runs rampant, the security forces are called "Brown Shirts" and a couple of former workers contacted him to let him know the "truth" but they cannot let their identities be known for fear of violence.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/07/01/medical-staff-warned-keep-quiet-about-illegal-immigrants-or-face-arrest/

Gigantic Douchebag Todd Starnes posted:

A government-contracted security force threatened to arrest doctors and nurses if they divulged any information about the contagion threat at a refugee camp housing illegal alien children at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas, sources say.

In spite of the threat, several former camp workers broke their confidentiality agreements and shared exclusive details with me about the dangerous conditions at the camp. They said taxpayers deserve to know about the contagious diseases and the risks the children pose to Americans. I have agreed to not to disclose their identities because they fear retaliation and prosecution.

“There were several of us who wanted to talk about the camps, but the agents made it clear we would be arrested,” a psychiatric counselor told me. “We were under orders not to say anything.”

The sources said workers were guarded by a security force from the Baptist Family & Children’s Services, which the Department of Health and Human Services hired to run the Lackland Camp.

The sources say security forces called themselves the “Brown Shirts.”

“It was a very submissive atmosphere,” the counselor said. “Once you stepped onto the grounds, you abided by their laws – the Brown Shirt laws.”

She said the workers were stripped of their cellphones and other communication devices. Anyone caught with a phone was immediately fired.

“Everyone was paranoid,” she said. “The children had more rights than the workers.”

She said children in the camp had measles, scabies, chicken pox and strep throat as well as mental and emotional issues.

“It was not a good atmosphere in terms of health,” she said. “I would be talking to children and lice would just be climbing down their hair.”

A former nurse at the camp told me she was horrified by what she saw.

“We have so many kids coming in that there was no way to control all of the sickness – all this stuff coming into the country,” she said. “We were very concerned at one point about strep going around the base.”

Both the counselor and the nurse said their superiors tried to cover up the extent of the illnesses.

“When they found out the kids had scabies, the charge nurse was adamant – ‘Don’t mention that. Don’t say scabies,’” the nurse recounted. “But everybody knew they had scabies. Some of the workers were very concerned about touching things and picking things up. They asked if they should be concerned, but they were told don’t worry about it.”

The nurse said the lice issue was epidemic – but everything was kept “hush-hush.”

“You could see the bugs crawling through their hair,” she said. “After we would rinse out their hair, the sink would be loaded with black bugs.”

The nurse told me she became especially alarmed because their files indicated the children had been transported to Lackland on domestic charter buses and airplanes.

“That’s what alerted me,” she said. “Oh, my God. They’re flying these kids around. Nobody knows that these children have scabies and lice. To tell you the truth, there’s no way to control it.”

I don't mean to upset anyone's Independence Day vacation plans, but were these kids transported to the camps before or after they were deloused? Anyone who flies the friendly skies could be facing a public health concern.

The counselor told me the refugee camp resembled a giant emergency room – off limits to the public.

“They did not want the community to know,” she said. “I initially spoke out at Lackland because I had a concern the children’s mental health care was not being taken care of.”

She said the breaking point came when camp officials refused to hospitalize several children who were suicidal.

“I made a recommendation that a child needed to be sent to a psychiatric unit,” the counselor told me. “He was reaching psychosis. He was suicidal. Instead of treating him, they sent him off to a family in the United States.”

She said she filed a Child Protective Services report and quit her job.

“I didn’t want to lose my license if this kid committed suicide,” she told me. “I was done.”

The counselor kept a detailed journal about what happened during her tenure at the facility.

“When people read that journal they are going to be astonished,” she said. ‘I don’t think they will believe what is going on in America.”

So it was not a great surprise, she said, when she received a call from federal agents demanding that she return to the military base and hand over her journal.

She said she declined to do so.

“I didn’t go back to Lackland,” she said.

Both workers told me while they have no regrets, they want to remain anonymous for fear of reprisals.

“They’re going to crush the system,” the nurse told me. “We can’t sustain this. They are overwhelming the system and I think it’s a travesty.”

Baptist Family & Childen’s Services spokeswoman Krista Piferrer tells me the agency takes “any allegation of malfeasance or inappropriate care of a child very seriously.”

“There are a number of checks and balances to ensure children are receiving appropriate and adequate mental health care,” she said.

Piferrer said the clinicians are supervised by a federal field specialist from HHS’s Office of Refugee Resettlement. She also said BFCS have 58 medical professionals serving at Lackland.

“Every illness, whether it is a headache or something more serious, is recorded in a child’s electronic medical record and posted on WebEOC – a real-time, web-based platform that is visible to not only BFCS but the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services,” she said.

As for those brown shirts, the BFCS said they are “incident management team personnel” – who happen to wear tan shirts.

My sources say Americans should be very concerned about the secrecy of the government camps.

“This is just the beginning,” one source told me. "It is a long-term financial responsibility.”

Todd Starnes is host of Fox News & Commentary, heard on hundreds of radio stations. Sign up for his American Dispatch newsletter, be sure to join his Facebook page, and follow him on Twitter. His latest book is "God Less America”.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Wow. Todd Starnes is loving evil. I mean thank God it's transparent as gently caress but who the hell dreams up fan-fiction poo poo like that? And wants people to believe it?

Edit: The funniest part is that he's written disease and lice ridden children as villians or some sort of chemical weapon and has absolutely no clue how that comes across. Concern for them is just sort of secondary to the idea that diseased immigrant zombie children are about to break out and cause the Mexican apocalypse. What a sick person.

Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Jul 1, 2014

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.
I also think it's appalling that the conditions at the camps a reframed from concern for the children to a biological attack on the homeland. Rather than, I dunno, treat the kids' illnesses more effectively, they're talking about how dangerous the children are to polite society.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
You'll also note that it's posted under Fox's opinion section and is written entirely in the style of a straight news item. Or at least as close as Fox normally comes to being able to put together a straight news story.

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.

Intel&Sebastian posted:

You'll also note that it's posted under Fox's opinion section and is written entirely in the style of a straight news item. Or at least as close as Fox normally comes to being able to put together a straight news story.

It truly is the typical FoxNews spin to turn the workers' concerns for the children's welfare into ASSAULT ON ARE FREEDOM!!!11!!

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Gozinbulx posted:

I must be in a bad mood or something cause god drat that comment finally broke the camels back for me. I hate this county.

Most of the country doesn't think that way.

spunkshui
Oct 5, 2011



Hazo posted:

You know the answer to this. He mainly just has a huge hard on for anti-choice arguments, especially after popping out two kids with his doting and submissive wife (one of whom suffered from serious complications following birth).

Anyone know about whether the decision means HL still has to cover contraceptives for non-BC reasons, as my other acquaintance alleged? That would make this much less horrible but she's kind of a moron and I doubt she's correct. She dropped this little nugget yesterday, for example:



All married people should just not have any more sex at all after they have the number of kids they want. God planned for them to have.

:colbert:

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
I find it very easy not to overeat, clearly I should not be forced to pay for obesity-related treatments for others. After all, dieting is free!

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Popular Thug Drink posted:

I find it very easy not to overeat, clearly I should not be forced to pay for obesity-related treatments for others. After all, dieting is free!

Why drink soda and beer? Water's free!

(unless if you're in Detroit)

Ralepozozaxe
Sep 6, 2010

A Veritable Smorgasbord!
Are lice black, and can you see them crawling in hair? It's wierd that I mostly question the witness' lice testimony and not all the everything else.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

spunkshui posted:

All married people should just not have any more sex at all after they have the number of kids they want. God planned for them to have.

:colbert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifgHHhw_6g8

PeterWeller
Apr 21, 2003

I told you that story so I could tell you this one.

I like the part where it gets all ominous about a strep outbreak. That poo poo is miserable, but it ain't no plague.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

Welcome to the world of Todd Starnes. When he is not creating a Christian themed persecution complex, he writes conspiracy theory poo poo like this.

I recall flipping through the radio and he was on a show hosted by Janet Parshall.

He kept whining about being a “A Duck Dynasty Guy Living in a Miley Cyrus World.”, then made the complaints about "drat LIBERAL MILLENIALS DRINKING THEIR SOY LATTES AND KALE! WHATEVER HAPPENED TO BLACK COFFEE AND ICED TEA?".

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.
Reminder: Todd Starnes was the guy who was REALLY ANGRY when a Hindu Indian-American won Miss America.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


FuzzySkinner posted:

I recall flipping through the radio and he was on a show hosted by Janet Parshall.

He kept whining about being a “A Duck Dynasty Guy Living in a Miley Cyrus World.”, then made the complaints about "drat LIBERAL MILLENIALS DRINKING THEIR SOY LATTES AND KALE! WHATEVER HAPPENED TO BLACK COFFEE AND ICED TEA?".

I used to listen to Fox News talk. He had a bumper promoting his article on Fox News. He states that he is "kind if an odd duck...he likes to shop at Walmart...." He says other thing like liking Broadway musicals but that right there has always stood out to me.

Since hearing that, I have witnessed several of his columns on the website. He is a huckster who tried to turn anything religious related into an instance of Christian persecution (not invoking God at graduation, Christmas songs, etc) Duck Dynasty was probably his most aroused time ever.

It apparently pays though so he keeps duping people.

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Hahahaha "they love to talk about equal pay" spoken as some sort of insult. Welcome to Fox News.

I don't have a vagina, a child or an absent significant other and I would be complaining about that poo poo too. This is America you're supposed to do whatever you can to get that cash.

I would infer that by "love to talk about equal pay," she means to imply that equal pay doesn't actually matter to them much. Presumably because they're lazy and too dependent on the government teat to work.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Spacedad posted:

Reminder: Todd Starnes was the guy who was REALLY ANGRY when a Hindu Indian-American won Miss America.

Oh, god really. I am not surprised but do you have the article?

Guilty Spork
Feb 26, 2011

Thunder rolled. It rolled a six.

pengun101 posted:

Oh, god really. I am not surprised but do you have the article?
A quick google turned up a whiny screed he wrote where he complains that CNN misinterpreted his complaining that Miss Kansas should've won but the judges were too politically correct as being racist against the winner. Apparently he subscribes to the "The only racists are berobed KKK members and of course LIBERALS" school of thought, but what he put on display in his tweets was pretty ugly regardless, and it's not like there weren't other people who were unambiguously racist.

@toddstarnes posted:

The liberal Miss America judges won't say this - but Miss Kansas lost because she actually represented American values. #missamerica

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:

Not having sex by choice or....
If I remember college and based on current photos... no. But she became a hardcore Jesus fan later and maybe by now it's a choice.

Good thing no woman who doesn't want to have sex ever does, right?

Alterian posted:

Isn't this kinda semantics in the end? Is their insurance going to cost pretty much exactly the same except the insurance company will foot the bill for birth control, or is their insurance really like 50 cents cheaper a month since it doesn't cover birth control?
Yeah I'm still curious about this too, and sorry but Kiwi Ghost Chips's custom title makes me a bit wary. Source?

I know people were semi-joking that this could be an inadvertent stepping stone to more government involvement in medical care but it would be hilarious if this ended up happening and we somehow wound up with an actual first-world health care system.

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

Start using the best desktop environment now!
Choose KDE!

Hazo posted:

Good thing no woman who doesn't want to have sex ever does, right?
Yeah I'm still curious about this too, and sorry but Kiwi Ghost Chips's custom title makes me a bit wary. Source?

From the decision:

quote:

In fact, HHS has already devised and implemented a system that seeks to respect the religious liberty of reli- gious nonprofit corporations while ensuring that the em- ployees of these entities have precisely the same access to all FDA-approved contraceptives as employees of compa- nies whose owners have no religious objections to provid- ing such coverage. The employees of these religious non- profit corporations still have access to insurance coverage without cost sharing for all FDA-approved contracep- tives; and according to HHS, this system imposes no net economic burden on the insurance companies that are required to provide or secure the coverage.
Although HHS has made this system available to reli- gious nonprofits that have religious objections to the con- traceptive mandate, HHS has provided no reason why the same system cannot be made available when the owners of for-profit corporations have similar religious objections. We therefore conclude that this system constitutes an alternative that achieves all of the Government’s aims while providing greater respect for religious liberty. And under RFRA, that conclusion means that enforcement of the HHS contraceptive mandate against the objecting parties in these cases is unlawful.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-354_olp1.pdf

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

Welcome to the world of Todd Starnes. When he is not creating a Christian themed persecution complex, he writes conspiracy theory poo poo like this.

TL;DR - There is a camp that illegal immigrant children are being taken to. Disease runs rampant, the security forces are called "Brown Shirts" and a couple of former workers contacted him to let him know the "truth" but they cannot let their identities be known for fear of violence.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/07/01/medical-staff-warned-keep-quiet-about-illegal-immigrants-or-face-arrest/
That guy is a shithead but that's a decent premise (tweaked a bit) for an apocalyptic novel or movie,

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.

Hazo posted:

If I remember college and based on current photos... no. But she became a hardcore Jesus fan later and maybe by now it's a choice.

Good thing no woman who doesn't want to have sex ever does, right?
Yeah I'm still curious about this too, and sorry but Kiwi Ghost Chips's custom title makes me a bit wary. Source?

I know people were semi-joking that this could be an inadvertent stepping stone to more government involvement in medical care but it would be hilarious if this ended up happening and we somehow wound up with an actual first-world health care system.

Given the problems at the VA, de facto government healthcare won't be the cinnamon and roses you think it will be. Yes, I do also realize the VA's problems start in Congress, but so will UHC's problems. If there is a public option, it will be attacked from Day 1 and crippled by partisanship long after its beneficial effects are felt by the average citizen.

MasterControl
Jul 28, 2009

Lipstick Apathy

FuzzySkinner posted:

I recall flipping through the radio and he was on a show hosted by Janet Parshall.

He kept whining about being a “A Duck Dynasty Guy Living in a Miley Cyrus World.”, then made the complaints about "drat LIBERAL MILLENIALS DRINKING THEIR SOY LATTES AND KALE! WHATEVER HAPPENED TO BLACK COFFEE AND ICED TEA?".

Oh I love the black coffee argument.it comes up every few pages. It's that dumb Marlboro man ideal. Without any evidence to back me up I would say 90% of coffee drinkers add milk.

If I find a person who drinks coffee black I'm over the moon because that person can easily convert to a customer for me but that is soo rare. it's touching the poop but if conservatives are some enormous base of black coffee drinkers maybe I should rethink my marketing strategy.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

MasterControl posted:

Oh I love the black coffee argument.it comes up every few pages. It's that dumb Marlboro man ideal. Without any evidence to back me up I would say 90% of coffee drinkers add milk.

If I find a person who drinks coffee black I'm over the moon because that person can easily convert to a customer for me but that is soo rare. it's touching the poop but if conservatives are some enormous base of black coffee drinkers maybe I should rethink my marketing strategy.

It's a good idea but the flaw is in assuming conservatives are actually practicing anything they preach.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

MasterControl posted:

Oh I love the black coffee argument.it comes up every few pages. It's that dumb Marlboro man ideal. Without any evidence to back me up I would say 90% of coffee drinkers add milk.

If I find a person who drinks coffee black I'm over the moon because that person can easily convert to a customer for me but that is soo rare. it's touching the poop but if conservatives are some enormous base of black coffee drinkers maybe I should rethink my marketing strategy.

I like black coffee, but that was because I used to drink it as a coffee/sugar sludge, and have been working to reduce sugar in my diet. :shrug:

Then again, these days, I'm a bit of a coffee snob, and any old Foldgers won't do if I'm buying/making my own coffee.

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Nov 5, 2003

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MasterControl posted:

Oh I love the black coffee argument.it comes up every few pages. It's that dumb Marlboro man ideal. Without any evidence to back me up I would say 90% of coffee drinkers add milk.

If I find a person who drinks coffee black I'm over the moon because that person can easily convert to a customer for me but that is soo rare. it's touching the poop but if conservatives are some enormous base of black coffee drinkers maybe I should rethink my marketing strategy.

If memory serves it's actually 1/3 of coffee drinkers that drink it black. As the demographic gets older you get more black coffee drinkers. Even so, black coffee really isn't that uncommon of a thing. They're not the majority but the idea that there is a right or a wrong way to drink coffee is absurd. Some people like lattes, some people don't. I drink all of my coffee back and strong because that's the way I like it. Doesn't mean that people that like their coffee some other way are wrong.

Anyway, 90% of coffee drinkers adding milk is actually way, way off. Some of the non-black drinkers just add some sugar. Creamer or milk is a majority but not like a super massive one.

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