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Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Inspector_666 posted:

I'm 26 and am at my first job with PTO, and I've already used up almost all of my days for the year.

Seriously guys, take a week here and there.

I just submitted my approval request to use up half my banked PTO for a road trip up through the UP and into Minnesota, and then back through Wisconsin and Chicago, as a birthday present to myself next month.

It's gonna be great. :unsmith:

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Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Agrikk posted:

Jesus wept.

You guys are doing this "life" thing all wrong. :smith:

Seriously, I swear some people wear the "i haven't taken vacation" poo poo as a badge of honor. Its sad. :smith:

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob
I don't take vacation as often as I should, but doing it is important. Besides the fact that new experiences are awesome, not doing it leaves me in a terrible mental place. Take some time off -- and don't do some bullshit stay-at-home nonsense, if you do that you'll think about work and answer emails and poo poo. Get away, it doesn't have to be anywhere crazy, you can go visit a friend or whatever. Go somewhere so that you can genuinely disconnect from work and relax. You will feel so much better. Every time I do it I realize I don't do it enough.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004
Went to Italy for a week in April. Leave to Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Austria and Czech Republic for a little over two weeks on Saturday. Probably will go to Armenia and maybe Belarus in the Fall. It is nice to take vacations. If my job didn't let me, I wouldn't work there.

Daylen Drazzi
Mar 10, 2007

Why do I root for Notre Dame? Because I like pain, and disappointment, and anguish. Notre Dame Football has destroyed more dreams than the Irish Potato Famine, and that is the kind of suffering I can get behind.

guppy posted:

I don't take vacation as often as I should, but doing it is important. Besides the fact that new experiences are awesome, not doing it leaves me in a terrible mental place. Take some time off -- and don't do some bullshit stay-at-home nonsense, if you do that you'll think about work and answer emails and poo poo. Get away, it doesn't have to be anywhere crazy, you can go visit a friend or whatever. Go somewhere so that you can genuinely disconnect from work and relax. You will feel so much better. Every time I do it I realize I don't do it enough.

For me it was never so much that I didn't want to do it - I just couldn't afford to do it. Now that I've got a decent-paying job my first priority is to pay off all the bills that have managed to run up, then build up a emergency reserve, then finally save up some money for vacation. That's going to take at least a year, and I imagine that more poo poo will break down or need replaced in that time frame, pushing me back a little further. I really want to take a couple weeks off to go to Europe, but then I imagine all the paperwork I'd have to fill out in advance and after I come back as part of having a security clearance and I think maybe leaving the country isn't such a great idea (unless I can get on a contract that will relocate me to Europe - that would be great for a couple years).

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Daylen Drazzi posted:

For me it was never so much that I didn't want to do it - I just couldn't afford to do it. Now that I've got a decent-paying job my first priority is to pay off all the bills that have managed to run up, then build up a emergency reserve, then finally save up some money for vacation. That's going to take at least a year, and I imagine that more poo poo will break down or need replaced in that time frame, pushing me back a little further. I really want to take a couple weeks off to go to Europe, but then I imagine all the paperwork I'd have to fill out in advance and after I come back as part of having a security clearance and I think maybe leaving the country isn't such a great idea (unless I can get on a contract that will relocate me to Europe - that would be great for a couple years).

My ex had TS and she was able to travel without too much fuss. Are you sure it would be bad or just assuming?

Casull
Aug 13, 2005

:catstare: :catstare: :catstare:
I'll have my first real vacation next April after working various IT jobs for three years; by January, I'll have enough money in my travel budget to stay two weeks in either Hong Kong or Japan.

Now the question is: Which one? I've been to Japan before but that was six years ago, and I've never been to Hong Kong.

GOOCHY
Sep 17, 2003

In an interstellar burst I'm back to save the universe!
I take all my vacation every year. It's there for a reason. Also, I've always had bosses who would essentially get angry if you didn't schedule yourself to be away from work at some point. Even if you were just taking the vacation to sit at home and play XBOX you should do it. My coworker is taking this week off to kayak fish and golf all week. Not going anywhere special, just hanging out.

CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Nap Ghost
Most of my vacation in the last handful of years has been simple weekend extensions where I drive home to help/visit my parents. I travel often for work, which has really ruined me for travel, as any trip feels like I'm going somewhere to work.
I still hope to get down to Yellowstone Park in August, but I have this feeling that we'll get dumped into some projects by then.

Daylen Drazzi
Mar 10, 2007

Why do I root for Notre Dame? Because I like pain, and disappointment, and anguish. Notre Dame Football has destroyed more dreams than the Irish Potato Famine, and that is the kind of suffering I can get behind.

John Kruk posted:

My ex had TS and she was able to travel without too much fuss. Are you sure it would be bad or just assuming?

Assuming - I had to read new job's security briefings today and they made it sound like you could expect to be sweated by the Secret Service and the FBI to make sure you hadn't turned traitor.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
Speaking of vacation, I moved from CA to TX to start the year. Used a week of vacation for the drive - my wife and I stopped in Phoenix, ABQ, Amarillo and Oklahoma City. Good times.

However, I've recently learned that since I moved from CA to TX, where worker protections are "your company is not allowed to inject you with cyanide" and not a lot more, all of my banked holiday from CA, the company went ahead and yoinked that right the gently caress back when I moved to Texas. Ahh, working for a monolithic multinational, they give a gently caress about me.

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


I take every single PTO hour I am allocated, and I schedule it around holidays for maximum time off. I mean, work/life balance is a buzzword term, but it's real and everyone should take all the paid time off they get.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
For a multitude of reasons throughout the years I haven't taken a real vacation since the mid seventies when I was a kid. Money issues, job issues, unemployment, health problems...

I'm not proud of it. My life has gone rather poorly. But If I get fired soon I promise to take a few days somewhere nice.

Crowley
Mar 13, 2003
You Yanks' lack of vacation is making me sad, so I've decided I'd try to help out just a bit.

If you should ever fancy a vacation in Denmark you can borrow our summer house for free*. It's a small house with beds for six adults and two kids, located a few hundred meters from the beach somewhat close to Grenaa, Denmark.

It's usually fully booked in the summertime, but vacant in autumn and spring (and closed during winter due to lack of insulation). Poke me and I'll make sure it's vacant when you want it.



*I do expect you to pay for the power and water you use, and if you could mow the lawn or split a bit of firewood that would be awesome. The cellphone signal is decent, and I've put in a 2Mbit ADSL and a WLAN so you can get your daily dose of Internet too.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:

Crowley posted:

You Yanks' lack of vacation is making me sad, so I've decided I'd try to help out just a bit.

If you should ever fancy a vacation in Denmark you can borrow our summer house for free*. It's a small house with beds for six adults and two kids, located a few hundred meters from the beach somewhat close to Grenaa, Denmark.

It's usually fully booked in the summertime, but vacant in autumn and spring (and closed during winter due to lack of insulation). Poke me and I'll make sure it's vacant when you want it.



*I do expect you to pay for the power and water you use, and if you could mow the lawn or split a bit of firewood that would be awesome. The cellphone signal is decent, and I've put in a 2Mbit ADSL and a WLAN so you can get your daily dose of Internet too.

So xou are basically hoping that no one will take you up on that offer because they get no vacation ? :v:

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
It's just like when BMW offered a manual transmission on the E60 M5, but only for the US market.

F4rt5
May 20, 2006

Reading about your nonexistent vacation time makes me appreciate our socialist utopia so much more, the land of milk and honey where employers are required by law to give you three weeks uninterrupted vacation time between July and September. And eleven percent of a year's salary paid out in June unless you get your regular salary the month you're off...

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

Help me find my true dharma

Crowley posted:

Amazing offer

"Crowley, the ADSL line is down again. Please do the needful, this is affecting production!!!!"

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

JazzmasterCurious posted:

Reading about your nonexistent vacation time makes me appreciate our socialist utopia so much more, the land of milk and honey where employers are required by law to give you three weeks uninterrupted vacation time between July and September. And eleven percent of a year's salary paid out in June unless you get your regular salary the month you're off...

What hilarious socialist land is this? Some Scandinavian paradise where summer is only 4.5 weeks long and people kill themselves if they're forced to work during one season where 80% of the sunlight received annually actually occurs?

Crowley
Mar 13, 2003

SEKCobra posted:

So xou are basically hoping that no one will take you up on that offer because they get no vacation ? :v:

gently caress You, Got Mine.™

Seriously though, I can't pay for your plane tickets, but at least I can help offset the cost of accommodation.. if you fancy Danish rural areas, or like to bike, or use our somewhat decent public transport, or rent a car, or hitchhike.. etc.

DrAlexanderTobacco posted:

"Crowley, the ADSL line is down again. Please do the needful, this is affecting production!!!!"

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

Crowley fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Jul 2, 2014

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

What hilarious socialist land is this? Some Scandinavian paradise where summer is only 4.5 weeks long and people kill themselves if they're forced to work during one season where 80% of the sunlight received annually actually occurs?

Sounds about right for Norway.

Then again, I'm sure Danes also get a summer holiday.

The whole thing is such a pleasing yet quaint concept.

Having holiday time off is a must if you actually want to visit the shops though, everything is closed all the time when you might have the time to do it.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

SEKCobra posted:

So xou are basically hoping that no one will take you up on that offer because they get no vacation ? :v:

Remember it's not that they get no vacation, it's that they choose not to take it. There was a discussion of some of the reasons no more than a month ago in one of these threads and they weren't very good ones in my opinion.

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

What hilarious socialist land is this? Some Scandinavian paradise where summer is only 4.5 weeks long and people kill themselves if they're forced to work during one season where 80% of the sunlight received annually actually occurs?

Yeah, Norway. And if you get sick (with a doctors note) during the mandatory summer vacation, you get the days reimbursed. I poo poo you not.

I've 1.5 weeks until my vacation starts. It'll be awesome with some time off :sun:

Daylen Drazzi
Mar 10, 2007

Why do I root for Notre Dame? Because I like pain, and disappointment, and anguish. Notre Dame Football has destroyed more dreams than the Irish Potato Famine, and that is the kind of suffering I can get behind.
This winter was especially brutal on my vacation hours here in Ohio. For some stupid reason the prime on the contract never negotiated that if the base closes due to weather we don't have to make up the lost hours, so unless people wanted to work an extra 2 hours a day they had to use their vacation time. The base closed like 7-8 times this past winter, so people burned through their vacation time rather than save it up for use this summer. I was fortunate enough to have saved up a few days, but at one point I was down to like 3 hours of PTO in February and praying that I had 2 weeks of uninterrupted work so I could build it back up to 8 hours in case of another freak storm. I'm up to almost 24 hours now, but since I'm moving to the new position I get to start all over, although I think they give you 10 days of PTO off the bat, and 4 days of sick leave, and 10 days for national holidays.

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

If you can take a vacation definitely use your PTO. Haven't there been multiple studies showing that you are less productive over the long run if you work crazy hours and never take a vacation? It doesn't even have to be an expensive trip over seas. If your the outdoors type just go find a state park, take a Friday off and have a nice 3 day camping trip. Or go visit family that you never get to see enough. poo poo even a staycation where you just make time for yourself is better than nothing.

luminalflux
May 27, 2005



Vacation status: just booked tickets for 3 weeks off in august.

Casull posted:

I'll have my first real vacation next April after working various IT jobs for three years; by January, I'll have enough money in my travel budget to stay two weeks in either Hong Kong or Japan.

Now the question is: Which one? I've been to Japan before but that was six years ago, and I've never been to Hong Kong.

Hong Kong definitely. I've been there twice and loved it. Singapore is also good if you can swing going to two places, or visit some of the mainland china and maybe a day or 2 in Macau.

SubjectVerbObject
Jul 27, 2009
I have tomorrow off and am doing nothing, hopefully. The rest of my family has the summer off, so they tend to get bored and want to do things when I am off work, like camping. That is fine, but it ends up being a lot of preparation and stress and I come back not exactly rested. The goal for tomorrow is to go to a park and sit in the sun.

Commodore 64
Apr 2, 2007

The sky was the color of a television tuned to a dead channel that was orange
Vacation chat: Taking 4 days off next week to see my sister in MI. I'm also taking a 3 day weekend to Milwaukee/New Glarus to see Mànran and pick up beer, meat and cheese. Once Uppermost gets his visa sorted out I'm going to see him play in Denver and take a few days off for that.

Taking a vacation not only helps your mind, but, in my case, also reminds people what you do.

I took 2 weeks off in August last year and went to Scotland for Runrig, the Edinburgh Fringe and as much of the cities and Highlands as I could. Passport, backpack, toothbrush and bounced from hostel to hotel. Drank amazing whisky, made friends from all over the world and saw amazing sights. Best 2 weeks of my life.

I come back and get a promotion. Turns out I do a lot and it took me being gone and poo poo falling to my boss to realize that! It's one thing to provide metrics and reports. Another thing when poo poo starts breaking and it's on your doorstep!

Pissing me off: My boss has a fear of SSD's. He's warming up to them for laptops, but doesn't want to use them in our desktop refresh.

"Life spans!"
*ignores our failed trad. Seagate HD's*
*thinks Crucial/OCZ SSD's are just like Samsung/Intel SSD's*

Commodore 64 fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Jul 2, 2014

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Commodore 64 posted:

Pissing me off: My boss has a fear of SSD's. He's warming up to them for laptops, but doesn't want to use them in our desktop refresh.

"Life spans!"
*ignores our failed trad. Seagate HD's*
*thinks Crucial/OCZ SSD's are just like Samsung/Intel SSD's*

His concerns with SSDs are lifespan? What?

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

Commodore 64 posted:

Vacation chat: Taking 4 days off next week to see my sister in MI. I'm also taking a 3 day weekend to Milwaukee/New Glarus to see Mànran and pick up beer, meat and cheese. Once Uppermost gets his visa sorted out I'm going to see him play in Denver and take a few days off for that. Then it's going to

Taking a vacation not only helps your mind, but, in my case, also reminds people what you do.

I took 2 weeks off in August last year and went to Scotland for Runrig, the Edinburgh Fringe and as much of the cities and Highlands as I could. Passport, backpack, toothbrush and bounced from hostel to hotel. Drank amazing whisky, made friends from all over the world and saw amazing sights. Best 2 weeks of my life.

I come back and get a promotion. Turns out I do a lot and it took me being gone and poo poo falling to my boss to realize that! It's one thing to provide metrics and reports. Another thing when poo poo starts breaking and it's on your doorstep!

Pissing me off: My boss has a fear of SSD's. He's warming up to them for laptops, but doesn't want to use them in our desktop refresh.

"Life spans!"
*ignores our failed trad. Seagate HD's*
*thinks Crucial/OCZ SSD's are just like Samsung/Intel SSD's*

If he's willing to look at data instead of just assume stuff, show him this article: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7173/samsung-ssd-840-evo-review-120gb-250gb-500gb-750gb-1tb-models-tested/3

The estimated lifespan in years assumes more data written to the disk per day than you usually see, and then he's also pointed out that in practice the drives usually last longer than the base data he's making the chart from, so that's pretty must worst-case. Your boss could get 1tb disks and he might be dead before they stop working (63 year estimated lifespan?)

mAlfunkti0n
May 19, 2004
Fallen Rib

Inspector_666 posted:

His concerns with SSDs are lifespan? What?

I was told the decision to not allow users (without an exception request) to not reuse their personal SSDs in work laptops (I bought my own) is due to "they wear out". This was never the concern if you had your own larger HDD. Apparently those don't "wear out".

Crowley
Mar 13, 2003

Inspector_666 posted:

His concerns with SSDs are lifespan? What?

Last I poked some SSD numbers at calc.exe I wound up with something like 3 years of constand HDD thrashing before reaching the minimum life expectancy of an SSD.

Commodore 64
Apr 2, 2007

The sky was the color of a television tuned to a dead channel that was orange

Crowley posted:

Last I poked some SSD numbers at calc.exe I wound up with something like 3 years of constand HDD thrashing before reaching the minimum life expectancy of an SSD.

I've seen tests that predict 5 years with 24/7 r/w.

"You can't reason a man out of a position he didn't reason himself into".

See also why our C's all want Macs and sales wants iPad's (even though the big web app they use is clunkier than gently caress on an iPad).

Tigern
Sep 6, 2012

possibly tiger
Grimey Drawer
Vacation talk: just took a couple of days of to watch the upcomming Dota 2 International. Feels good!

Digitalpope
Feb 12, 2007

Commodore 64 posted:

I've seen tests that predict 5 years with 24/7 r/w.

"You can't reason a man out of a position he didn't reason himself into".

See also why our C's all want Macs and sales wants iPad's (even though the big web app they use is clunkier than gently caress on an iPad).

Selling the SSDs to our upper management was simple...I swapped their drives over and told them later that's why their laptop/desktop was so much faster...then I projected those cost numbers out across the actual load times of applications on platters vs SSD and the number of times they were opened/closed multiplied by the cost per hour of workers here.

End result is the helldesk is getting all new NUCs with 8gb ram and 120gb SSDs with dual monitors across the board, with all the larger pc's over there being recycled with SSDs and more ram for the other folks who have slower desktops.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Digitalpope posted:

Selling the SSDs to our upper management was simple...I swapped their drives over and told them later that's why their laptop/desktop was so much faster...then I projected those cost numbers out across the actual load times of applications on platters vs SSD and the number of times they were opened/closed multiplied by the cost per hour of workers here.

End result is the helldesk is getting all new NUCs with 8gb ram and 120gb SSDs with dual monitors across the board, with all the larger pc's over there being recycled with SSDs and more ram for the other folks who have slower desktops.

I have found that cloning a non-ssd disk to a ssd disk hasn't gone all that smooth in my experience. Anybody else have a tool that they have used to do the cloning between different sized disks that wasn't a pain in the butt to use? I never had issues with cloning anything until I have wanted to move to ssds.

vibur
Apr 23, 2004

Sickening posted:

I have found that cloning a non-ssd disk to a ssd disk hasn't gone all that smooth in my experience. Anybody else have a tool that they have used to do the cloning between different sized disks that wasn't a pain in the butt to use? I never had issues with cloning anything until I have wanted to move to ssds.
I have had nothing but success using Acronis. It's not fast but it works well.

mAlfunkti0n
May 19, 2004
Fallen Rib

Sickening posted:

I have found that cloning a non-ssd disk to a ssd disk hasn't gone all that smooth in my experience. Anybody else have a tool that they have used to do the cloning between different sized disks that wasn't a pain in the butt to use? I never had issues with cloning anything until I have wanted to move to ssds.

Macrium Reflect is the best tool I've used to date.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
I started buying laptops with SSDs and goddamn installing Office 2010 goes lickety-split.

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TWBalls
Apr 16, 2003
My medication never lies

vibur posted:

I have had nothing but success using Acronis. It's not fast but it works well.

I've used Acronis successfully as well. Works great even with different sized disks. Macrium Reflect is often recommended in the SSD thread. I've never used it myself.

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