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Pattonesque posted:http://www.dragonage.com/#!/en_US/characters/humans/cullen WHAT DO YOU MEAN KIRKWALL IS NOT WIPED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH??? He's actually wearing full armor and carrying a big two-hand sword in one screenshot, interesting since he is not a party member. This makes me even more convinced that we will have to beat back an attack on our stronghold. And I hope his attitude to any templar or mage seeking your support will be "kill them all, they are all bullshit".
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Drifter posted:I don't understand what you're trying to get across but it's clear you're offended so I'll chalk that up as a win for me. If all Bioware does with characters with "giggle squee bullshit romance" then why are there characters you can't "romance" at all? It's statement that is self-apparently false. I'm not offended. I just don't understand why you feel the need to make stuff up on top of all the actual lovely stuff that Bioware has done.
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Torrannor posted:
There are other pictures showing a shield on his back so I think he's still rocking the sword and board.
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Drifter posted:The only thing aside from the cookie-cutter personality of Dorian is his class (, his moustache,) and his gayness. Also, ALL Bioware does is squee bullshit related to romancing characters, so whatever. I mean, going by what you're saying, literally the only way for Gaider to not be harping on this character's sexuality is if he doesn't mention it at all. For people -- including those on this forum -- to act as if merely mentioning a character's homosexuality is somehow focusing on that to the detriment of any other information, isn't that the entire word-for-word definition of idiots treating his sexuality as a central facet of his character instead of just another facet of his character, as expressed?
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Torrannor posted:He's actually wearing full armor and carrying a big two-hand sword in one screenshot, interesting since he is not a party member. This makes me even more convinced that we will have to beat back an attack on our stronghold. And I hope his attitude to any templar or mage seeking your support will be "kill them all, they are all bullshit". In terms of aesthetics, I think the fact that the first screenshot shows that he's evidently pretty old at this point. Too many games make it that basically no-one important is over 25, though DA:O had Wynne, so I guess they're actually pretty good in that respect.
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^^ How old do you think he is? I would judge him to be in his mid thirties, similar to Blackwall actually.BrianWilly posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, but has there been any other Bioware-originated discussion of Dorian's sexuality other than the one single paragraph sparsely describing his sexuality, in midst of an entire interview that goes into depth about his history as a magister and interest in the storyline? Gaider also dared to add that Dorian was the first gay character he ever wrote and that he is excited about that. Dorian has always been pitched as the rare "good" magister. That's not really very creative, but saying he's defined by his gayness is just strange.
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Stupid hope for stupid plot twist. I hope Dorian is secretly the leader of Tevinter, and all this stuff with the Inquisition is his way of taking a relaxing vacation. The mustache is his disguise, which he used blood magic to steal from somebody. A sidequest is the original owner angrily demanding it back. EDIT: vvv So, the plot of one of the episodes of The Tick. Does the stache have a romance option with a sentient beard as well? Section Z fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Jul 4, 2014 |
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Jul 4, 2014 21:36
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Section Z posted:The mustache is his disguise, which he used blood magic to steal from somebody. "You're pretty good, Inquisitor." 
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Jul 4, 2014 21:40
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I really like David Gaider. He hasn't always been great but in past years he's done a lot of really cool things, especially on the progressive front. That talk he gave about inclusiveness in game development at GDC was really good, and pretty much turned my opinion around on him from "eh, he's okay but kinda..." to "this is a cool guy".
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Jul 4, 2014 21:49
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I think Gaider is kind of a lovely writer sometimes, but I think he has decent opinions and is a decent human being so I don't hate him.
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Jul 4, 2014 21:53
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Torrannor posted:
I'm pretty sure I remember hearing Mark Darrah at E3 talking about how there is a big bad causing the fade rifts and they show up early to announce themselves and "attack you in your home" which I assume is Inquisition HQ. Where's that Bioware trope table when you need it?
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Jul 4, 2014 22:03
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He looks like a blond Eric Bana to me.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ At least he changed his weird ramen hair from the last two games. Bogwitt posted:I'm pretty sure I remember hearing Mark Darrah at E3 talking about how there is a big bad causing the fade rifts and they show up early to announce themselves and "attack you in your home" which I assume is Inquisition HQ. Even though you totally stomp him in gameplay you get your rear end handed to you in a cutscene. And then he later sends you a letter about how he totally owned you and how your story needs to be re-written. He'll be there for the last chapter. Because he's going to kill you. With his sick Hanzo katana.
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SgtSteel91 posted:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I'll admit, if I had one petty conversation option I could make to ME3, it would be adding "Who is this guy? I've never seen him before." to every scene that has Kei Leng in it. Because this was my reaction to them every single time. The Paragon/Renegade option in the last fight would be doing this a SECOND time in same conversation, causing him to kill himself. Paragon would be saying it politely, Renegade option would be saying it all rude, and when it's over you say "Saren still gave me a boss fight after he killed himself... Wait, who's this dead guy?" EDIT: vvv Yeah. Oddly it wasn't him being mustache twirling cutscene winner hanzo steel swinging cliche wasn't my problem with him, so much as how I was clearly supposed to consider him a big deal despite having never heard of him before... Or doing ANYTHING really of note outside of his cutscene successes. Sure, pull all the playbook moves of cutscene victory villains, video games. If not you, it would have been somebody with a gunsword, or dual pistols, or whatever the cool kids villain is these days. But when you start basically asking the audience "He's cool right? Did we tell you how cool he is yet? Did HE tell you how cool he is yet?" then it pushes it past accepting Storybook villains to transparent annoyance. Section Z fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Jul 4, 2014 |
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Yeah all the characters showing up from the books and everyone acting like they matter is even more stupid in light of the MUST MAKE GAME ACCESSIBLE TO NEW PLAYERS thing.
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I hate to be "that guy" but I'm 50+ pages behind on this thread and I don't see any discussion of a gameplay video that isn't handicam footage of a developer playing a scripted demo. Is there still zero genuine gameplay footage of this game which comes out in 3 months?
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Section Z posted:I'll admit, if I had one petty conversation option I could make to ME3, it would be adding "Who is this guy? I've never seen him before." to every scene that has Kei Leng in it. Because this was my reaction to them every single time. Did anyone give a poo poo about that guy? Hell, a dying old man beat him up at one point! We need a reason to be impressed by someone after you've done a story-arc where you're killing ancient technological deities and not just because they have a loving katana. Schubalts posted:That you can punch in half after calling him out for only "winning" because he had a gunship. Also he gets held off by a crippled, dying man. Daaamn straight. Mr.Pibbleton fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Jul 4, 2014 |
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SgtSteel91 posted:With his sick Hanzo katana. That you can punch in half after calling him out for only "winning" because he had a gunship. Also he gets held off by a crippled, dying man. 
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Antares posted:I hate to be "that guy" but I'm 50+ pages behind on this thread and I don't see any discussion of a gameplay video that isn't handicam footage of a developer playing a scripted demo. Is there still zero genuine gameplay footage of this game which comes out in 3 months? Well yeah, there's that handicam footage you were talking about, then the public E3 demos. That's all genuine, unless I'm misunderstanding you. That's pretty much the standard amount of pre-release footage for a single player AAA release, isn't it?
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Antares posted:I hate to be "that guy" but I'm 50+ pages behind on this thread and I don't see any discussion of a gameplay video that isn't handicam footage of a developer playing a scripted demo. Is there still zero genuine gameplay footage of this game which comes out in 3 months? There is still zero unedited/unscripted gameplay footage for Dragon Age 3 which goes gold in two months. Bioware has not allowed anyone from the public or the press to play it. Unlike prior entries in the series, there will be no demo. Merry Magpie fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Jul 4, 2014 |
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I'm still digging the new concept art, and hope it survives the transition into actual game items. This is "Ferelden winter wear."  It just has so much more personality than anything you actually see in Origins.
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It turns out... Dragon Age 3 never existed. Directed by M Night
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Lotish posted:He looks like a blond Eric Bana to me. He looks like a chubbier Alistair.
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Schubalts posted:That you can punch in half after calling him out for only "winning" because he had a gunship. Also he gets held off by a crippled, dying man. The one thing you can say for Kai Leng is that stabbing him in the gut feels real good.
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It didn't feel good to me, because I melted him into a puddle of goo with my laser rifle and then had to watch him come back to life for his Epic Death Scene.
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Opposing Farce posted:The one thing you can say for Kai Leng is that stabbing him in the gut feels real good. yeah, especially if you break his weeaboo katana first.
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Kai Leng is probably the most effective character Bioware has ever created.
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Fojar38 posted:Kai Leng is probably the most effective character Bioware has ever created. Didn't somebody say this about those of pissed off at Anders's terrorist idiocy? Though at least with Katana Leng, there is no doubt the writers wanted you to hate him. I don't actually have anything against his katana, admittedly. Though that was probably because at this the Commander has a space sword from his omnitool, that comes with the option to light people on fire. So when it comes to overblown melee weapons in space game, Leng is rather subdued by comparison. Section Z fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Jul 5, 2014 |
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Fojar38 posted:Kai Leng is probably the most effective character Bioware has ever created. The Thessia letter was a nice touch though.
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Kai Leng is the Ric Flair of you know what I can't even finish this sentence
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Antares posted:I hate to be "that guy" but I'm 50+ pages behind on this thread and I don't see any discussion of a gameplay video that isn't handicam footage of a developer playing a scripted demo. Is there still zero genuine gameplay footage of this game which comes out in 3 months? Some of the handicam stuff appears (the dragon especially) to be more actual gameplay cut apart and stitched together than a scripted demo, though I don't know why they would do that. Maybe the dev playing it died!
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Shugojin posted:Some of the handicam stuff appears (the dragon especially) to be more actual gameplay cut apart and stitched together than a scripted demo, though I don't know why they would do that. Maybe the dev playing it died! Could just have taken a long time between each action bit they wanted to use. Which could imply damage sponges and repetition, or simply the best parts happened at different times.
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Gameplay footage is tricky to show without spoiling something. Any gameplay footage they show would have to be pretty tightly controlled in which case people would complain that they're being shown tightly controlled footage that therefore isn't real.
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Also I said I don't think Gaider had anything to do with the worst parts of DA, but apparently he's to blame for Serendipity which is just one of the clumsiest goddamn things I've ever seen  They really need someone from outside their bubble to look at their writing and say "...what the gently caress man" where it's needed.
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Section Z posted:Didn't somebody say this about those of pissed off at Anders's terrorist idiocy? Though at least with Katana Leng, there is no doubt the writers wanted you to hate him. And yeah, I think I've seen variants of that argument for a lot of recent Bioware stuff, as if hating the character writing is a valid alternative to effective writing of a character to hate.
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Captain Mog posted:I'm not familiar with how he otherwise conducts himself on social media but I felt that this was a decent enough response to homophobic gamers who think including a gay character is somehow "pandering" (whatever that means). Inclusion is great and I applaud him for at least making an effort, regardless of the quality of the writing- which, let's be fair, isn't THAT bad. I've seen way worse handling of LGBT characters. Bioware are very clearly using LGB(no T I've seen) as a branding device now though.
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Fojar38 posted:Gameplay footage is tricky to show without spoiling something. Uhhhh...then don't have that specific instance of gameplay be plot and narrative specific. I mean, man, all that gameplay footage we didn't see of Dark Souls or The Witcher or countless number of other games sure spoiled us when we watched them.
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Vitamin P posted:Bioware are very clearly using LGB(no T I've seen) as a branding device now though. Yeah but, so?
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2house2fly posted:Yeah but, so? And like Gaider even said, the rest of the industry is pretty blatantly using Straight White Guy as a branding device for everything, so....yeah.
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Vitamin P posted:Bioware are very clearly using LGB(no T I've seen) as a branding device now though. It wont be bad until they go full GLEE and make the only stable-dating characters be gay and all the straight people live out horrible relationships.
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