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steven ballmer has steered microsoft into an iceberg and now the windows enterprise cash cow is taking on water. maybe satya can double the price of an office 365 sub to make up for it ? VMware posted:The Apple Enterprise Invasion https://blogs.vmware.com/euc/2014/06/apple-enterprise-invasion.html (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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bump (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 00:45 |
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what are you saying here cremnob
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 00:47 |
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Sharktopus posted:what are you saying here cremnob hes telling us about the state of his brain
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 01:26 |
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Sharktopus posted:what are you saying here cremnob forward thinking CJs gotta get on the mac train in the enterprise
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 01:30 |
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just install good from the appstore, nbd
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 04:31 |
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cremnob posted:forward thinking CJs gotta get on the mac train in the enterprise just fyi this will never happen
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 04:32 |
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its already happeningquote:At multinational firms like network-equipment giant Cisco Systems Inc., CSCO +0.64% Apple is going mainstream. Cisco in 2009 adopted a "bring your own device" policy under which employees purchase their own phones and tablets, with Cisco paying the wireless bill in certain instances. Now, iPhones and iPads account for nearly three-fourths of the 70,000-plus mobile devices supported by Cisco's tech department. http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304244904579278560822979176
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 04:36 |
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cremnob posted:its already happening There's nothing I enjoy more at my job than telling people they can't have Macs, outside of people with their own discretionary funding that get so mad at us for refusing to support them that they go out and buy their own, then act surprised when they can't get their work done and ask us for support to which we say, "Sorry, your Mac isn't in our supported model. Could we recommend an HP or Dell workstation?" edit: Actually BYOD for phones seems to be fine IMO if you think I'm being lovely about it. Not much difference really between any of the smartphones anymore as far as supporting the basics. Fabricated fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Jul 5, 2014 |
# ? Jul 5, 2014 04:47 |
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it seems like everyone uses Mac now. and not just in a confirmation bias kind of way. those who aren't using Mac are using and iPad or iPhone. or they work in a call centre and they will be replaced by Siri.
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 04:58 |
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Fabricated posted:Yeah BYOD isn't some sign of coming Mac dominance in enterprise. It's a lovely idea that will collide with reality as time goes on and IT infrastructures start realizing they're spending way too much time CJing everything and that VMs and Cloud poo poo don't solve it. Then it'll be back to standardizing on specific supported hardware again. actually until you made that edit i thought this was copy and pasted from like 2008
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 04:59 |
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Generally with my users the people you see using Macs are usually really stupid, and don't do any real work. Or literally the only thing they do is read and send emails.
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 05:01 |
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you life sounds pitiful
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 05:06 |
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not enough pleasure
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 05:09 |
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people are flocking to iPhones...which they use to check their email from an exchange server. iPads are also popular...and are being used to check email on an exchange server and as dumb terminals using poo poo like citrix. and anyone who does anything even remotely important is still using office i mean yeah ok microsoft has made some terrible loving decisions and hilarious fuckups over the last few years, but ultimately they are still absolutely enormous in the enterprise and it will take many many more years of constant fuckups and bad decisions to seriously erode that market share if ballmer was still at them helm, yeah i could see that happening, but now i think theres a chance microsoft will pull some of its hydra-like heads out of its rear end and realize that enterprise is where they excel (hah) and make money, while consumer poo poo is just not a strong point worth pursuing
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 05:10 |
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byob: aka making your employees use their own poo poo so you dont have to pay for it
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 05:12 |
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PleasureKevin posted:you life sounds pitiful
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 05:12 |
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Wild EEPROM posted:byob: aka making your employees use their own poo poo so you dont have to pay for it yeah pretty much. byod with phones is borderline acceptable...i'll always prefer a separate work phone (cuz i can turn it the gently caress off), but some people would rather just have one, and you can totally sandbox work related stuff but byod for regular computers? pfffffft hahahahah eat poo poo
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 05:15 |
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AS PART OF COST-CUTTING MEASURES TO HELP MITIGATE RECENT LOSSES DUE TO CHALLENGING ECONOMIC CONDITIONS WE WILL NO LONGER BE STOCKING TOILET PAPER IN THE RESTROOMS. ps gently caress you, more land rovers for the C-levels
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 05:18 |
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Also I've never seen an iPad used in enterprise for anything that justifies its purchase price and couldn't be done better/cheaper in some other way without it it is a loving toy for users to con hundreds of dollars out of their business offices for so they can watch Netflix and browse the internet during meetings or throw at their kids on trips The only credit I'll give our Mac users is that most of them are absolute pros at conning shitloads of money out of their superiors; we used to have a major Mac evangelist in our group who was a terrible CJ but really good at documentation. He got tired of being a CJ and snagged a communications job in a new department the university started and managed to convince them to spend $4000+ on a new iMac+Thunderbolt displays for him to...edit documents, send/receive emails, and do what amounted to blog updates on Pro-loving job there and I applaud him
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 05:20 |
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i don't know why i'm the only one who can't see the giant consuming cephalopod limbs of microsoft hugging the globe. maybe there's a higher than normal number of small businesses around here who just use some cheap saas and don't care about IT and never will. or there's a higher than normal number of depressed and under achieving IT people online who don't know they're out of touch with the status quo they try to defend. i did a job interview with a company that used to do IT but got out of it because no one runs big servers in their businesses anymore, they just use cloud stuff. now they are making their own saas. and microsoft is going "cloud first, mobile first". but i honestly hope you can keep convincing your higher-ups that the cloud is a bunch of hokum until your happy retirement. and i hope you feel joy and fulfilment from that, i really do. may your abiding steadfastness never falter. good luck.
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 05:43 |
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start supporting macs before u lose ur job
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 05:49 |
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cremnob was right
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 05:51 |
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Fabricated posted:Yeah BYOD isn't some sign of coming Mac dominance in enterprise. It's a lovely idea that will collide with reality as time goes on and IT infrastructures start realizing they're spending way too much time CJing everything and that VMs and Cloud poo poo don't solve it. Then it'll be back to standardizing on specific supported hardware again. lmao a literal windows janitor
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 06:58 |
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Sharktopus posted:what are you saying here cremnob he's saying that everywhere is switching to apple hardware and using the google software stack because lmao office on macs
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 07:06 |
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pram posted:lmao a literal windows janitor and gone native at that
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 07:14 |
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what's really happening is that more and more office apps aren't needed for "real work" as LoB applications are largely web-based now, sure people still need to make presentations and spreadsheets but it's not core work for a growing number of employees
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 08:07 |
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uhh its called keynote and numbers
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 08:08 |
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no it's called "office apps are slowly becoming irrelevant and there's nothing Microsoft can do about it"
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 08:16 |
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cremnob posted:bump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuBXbvl1Sg4
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 08:28 |
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remember when rotor executed one of his many unjust probations during the wwdc. that was good.
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 08:29 |
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pram posted:uhh its called keynote and numbers qirex posted:no it's called "office apps are slowly becoming irrelevant and there's nothing Microsoft can do about it" you're both right
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:remember when rotor executed one of his many unjust probations during the wwdc. that was good. that was v good
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 10:02 |
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hoping for same for september
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 10:02 |
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how many microsoft threads do we need
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 10:07 |
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well we need 0 cremnobs but we get 1
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 10:11 |
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esx lost more marketshare to windows server than windows desktop lost to osx tru story
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 14:31 |
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PleasureKevin posted:it seems like everyone uses Mac now. and not just in a confirmation bias kind of way. those who aren't using Mac are using and iPad or iPhone. or they work in a call centre and they will be replaced by Siri. 41% of the US uses an iPhone , and it's not the poorest 41% either
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 14:56 |
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i'm the 4% who said "i don't know" as to why you're supporting mac
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pram posted:lmao a literal windows janitor just not macs, because they're loving trash
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