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I love that bridge a lot more than the one we got. To be fair, it would probably be hell to film on.
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DrSunshine posted:I hardly recognized it without all the chrome and lens flares! If it weren't for the pictures you all post in here sometimes, I really couldn't tell you what the bridge from the 09/ID looked like. Or the ship really. JJTrek cameras never stopped a moment to show you their cool sets/ships like the older films, which were so god drat proud of their star ship porn. I'm certainly not calling for the return of the 4 hour starship flyby (though I do love TMP), but the bridge is just clear panels and the cameras would be all like "swoooosh swaoooww" flying through them like a michael bay dialogue scene, the film focusing on fancy camera work than anything we were meant to be looking at. The new movies forget that TOS-era Trek hinged so much on the characters, characters which include The Ship Itself. The best drat scene in ID was Grumpy Bones's Torp Surgery - it was a fun little useless character piece that, although it took place on a bad green screen planet, at least had the camera calm down for long enough for Karl Urban to do some Acting. It's really the only scene I can remember visually as anything other than swooshing lights. Hard Clumping fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Jul 5, 2014 |
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Gau posted:I love that bridge a lot more than the one we got. To be fair, it would probably be hell to film on.
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The Kelvin reminds me of those old FASA ships.
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Then for those who love X-Wings and saucer separations x4 there's the ST:O-like USS Prometheus which doesn't have a glamour picture because no good ones exists anywhere on the internet that doesn't look like total poo poo. So here's a stupid schematic of it in its various forms from all four angles that makes the ship look like an entire armada of half built Voyagers.  
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Jul 5, 2014 21:39
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AndyElusive posted:Then for those who love X-Wings and saucer separations x4 there's the ST:O-like USS Prometheus which doesn't have a glamour picture because no good ones exists anywhere one on the internet that doesn't look like total poo poo. So here's a stupid schematic of it in its various forms from all four angles that makes the ship look like an entire armada of half built Voyagers. Basically, the moral of the story is "gently caress you, John Eaves. gently caress you so hard."
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AndyElusive posted:Then for those who love X-Wings and saucer separations x4 there's the ST:O-like USS Prometheus which doesn't have a glamour picture because no good ones exists anywhere on the internet that doesn't look like total poo poo. So here's a stupid schematic of it in its various forms from all four angles that makes the ship look like an entire armada of half built Voyagers. Oh my god, I never noticed the tiny little warp nacelle that pops out of separated saucer.
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Jul 5, 2014 22:02
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AndyElusive posted:Then for those who love X-Wings and saucer separations x4 there's the ST:O-like USS Prometheus which doesn't have a glamour picture because no good ones exists anywhere on the internet that doesn't look like total poo poo. So here's a stupid schematic of it in its various forms from all four angles that makes the ship look like an entire armada of half built Voyagers. Someone post those old schematics for the Franz Joseph tugboat ships. I remember there were plans for like, cruise ship liner pods for that. That would've been interesting to have occur.
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Jul 5, 2014 22:25
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Nessus posted:Are all these chunks meant to be from a single ship? Christ, who built that thing, the Suliban? It's from Voyager. Of course it's dumb.
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Timby posted:Basically, the moral of the story is "gently caress you, John Eaves. gently caress you so hard." John Eaves is a remarkably boring artist that recycles his ideas more than James Horner did in the 80s, but I'm pretty sure Rick Sternbach designed the Prometheus.
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Jul 5, 2014 22:34
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Screw the space dreadnoughts, the unsung workhorse classes are the best. The Miranda class is a classic, and even Picard admitted he'd give up his Galaxy class cruise-liner to fly the Constellation class again.  
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OtherworldlyInvader posted:Screw the space dreadnoughts, the unsung workhorse classes are the best. The Miranda class is a classic, and even Picard admitted he'd give up his Galaxy class cruise-liner to fly the Constellation class again. Looking at that makes me think there's a slick warp engine salesman out there. 
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Mister Kingdom posted:Looking at that makes me think there's a slick warp engine salesman out there. You know how Scotty/Geordie is always saying there just isn't enough power? Yeah that ship doesn't have that problem. It's what they would call when they needed the Enterprise hauled away as garbage...
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DrSunshine posted:"What a piece of junk!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ln87J4XecU
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Nonono, that still has one warpcore, so each nacelle only has half the power! They're redundant like on four prop planes. What you need is two warp cores. Like the Prometheus has.
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Vagabundo posted:Who the gently caress cares about balance in space? What's it going to do? Tip forward and start sinking? Uh, yeah, actually. If the thrusters on a space ship aren't balanced with respect to its center of mass, it will just spin around uselessly. e: I mean unless spinning is what you want it to do, in that case it's pretty useful. Fister Roboto fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Jul 6, 2014 |
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Jul 6, 2014 07:23
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So I've always liked TNG but not a huge Trek fan but I was wondering why did Beverly Crusher leave the show for a season or two and was replaced by whatshername?
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LazyDivey posted:So I've always liked TNG but not a huge Trek fan but I was wondering why did Beverly Crusher leave the show for a season or two and was replaced by whatshername? There were producers on the show's staff who didn't like her performance or character or her lack of sleeping with him and managed to round up support to get rid of her. Fan reaction to Pulaski was bad, and Berman, who'd liked Crusher, came into a more prominent position running the show and between him, Patrick Stewart, and a bunch of fan support, they managed to get her returned. Also the producer who'd been sexually harassing her had left, which helped. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jul 6, 2014 |
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Jul 6, 2014 07:43
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Maurice Hurley was apparently harassing her, yeah. He was one of their writers who became a producer. It's not clear from most sources if this was sexual harassment or just general jackassery. And she wasn't alone, according to his Memory Alpha entry: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Maurice_Hurley FuturePastNow fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Jul 6, 2014 |
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MikeJF posted:There were producers on the show's staff who didn't like her performance or character or her lack of sleeping with him and managed to round up support to get rid of her.
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I got to Tapestry and Frame of Mind today in my TNG re-watch, I really love both those episodes. 
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OtherworldlyInvader posted:Screw the space dreadnoughts, the unsung workhorse classes are the best. The Miranda class is a classic, and even Picard admitted he'd give up his Galaxy class cruise-liner to fly the Constellation class again. I like the Constellation overall, but I really wish that at some point they'd worked it over a little more so that it's less glaringly obvious that they basically just glued the top and bottom halves of an Enterprise model's saucer on the top and bottom. Keep the curves, lose the lip at the edge, know what I'm saying?
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Timby posted:Basically, the moral of the story is "gently caress you, John Eaves. gently caress you so hard." Actual visual designer aside, I think this one's at the writers' feet, honestly.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Actual visual designer aside, I think this one's at the writers' feet, honestly. Yeah, the Prometheus isn't too bad given the specs he had to work with. It's not a Scimitar-level turd. I mean I'm sure Probert would've come up with something that knocked it out of the water, but the current Prometheus design is serviceable. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 09:31 on Jul 6, 2014 |
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Constellation? The Ford Pinto of starships. Kelvin? Maybe a nice mid-sized sedan. Prometheus? A PT Roadster, the dream of every 12 year old boy who wouldn't know class and performance if it smacked him in the face. But none compare to the Rolls-Royce of starships. The Great Experiment.  Nobody can dispute the utility and simple beauty of the Constitution-class, and her refit set the bar for an era of design. But it was the Excelsior that was truly a hallmark of its age, a beacon of late 23rd century art deco design, Starfleet at its very peak.  A shaky start? Sure, we all have them. It only took the Excelsior like 5 years after being built to be put into service. It's not her fault those eggheads in R&D built a transwarp drive that could be destroyed by a drunk, overweight Scotsman removing some spark plugs.  She's the B-52 of Starfleet ships, serving as the cream of the crop and, later, Starfleet's muscle and guts for a century. Countless other experiments came and went, and in the end, the Excelsior remained, mocking all attempts to do better. She's seen like 5 wars, served on countless fronts, charted thousands of square light-years of unexplored space. No other class of ship has come close to the impact made by the Excelsior.  Go on, look at it and try to tell me it's not the perfect ship. Beautiful, fast, powerful. And big. But not so big as her captain. 
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In my cynicism, I can't help but wonder if the Bolians were the product of "hey, how about some Andorians?" "ehhhhhh, Michael Westmore says he doesn't 'do antennae', and we don't really feel like finding white wigs, soooooo... how about we just do some facebumps and the blue makeup and call 'em something else?"
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Drone posted:Constitution Class gently caress that fat piece of poo poo. What, did it do evasive manoeuvres every time it encountered a salad? Now here's a goddamn space boat. 
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Edit: quote is not edit. gently caress.
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Vagabundo posted:gently caress that fat piece of poo poo. What, did it do evasive manoeuvres every time it encountered a salad? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBmmlHR1Bwg Excelsiors don't give no quarter, son. Lakota coulda creamed the Defiant and chose to show mercy.
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Ya, well a cessna with a quantum torpedo launcher could take the Defiant, so...
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The Defiant had her own quantums too, to be fair.
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Vagabundo posted:Now here's a goddamn space boat. She's a tough little ship.
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The Defiant is my favorite spaceship that looks like it could give you Lyme's Disease.
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Drone posted:Nobody can dispute the utility and simple beauty of the Constitution-class, and her refit set the bar for an era of design. But it was the Excelsior that was truly a hallmark of its age, a beacon of late 23rd century art deco design, Starfleet at its very peak. I love the Excelsior so much, a ship so perfect she looks good even as a technical diagram.  That top-down view is just perfection. That is Star Trek to me. Drone posted:But not so big as her captain. The Sulu factor doesn't hurt either.
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Gloria in Excelsior deo.
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AndyElusive posted:She's a tough little ship. Not so tough as her captain, I think.
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