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Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
Y'all are the ridiculous audiophile poo poo.

Some obscure-rear end soundtrack, and y'all have the copies for it.

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jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

KillHour posted:

It's 8, "Necropolis". Lots between 20 and 40hz. But mostly, I'm just a big fan of slap bass. Any other good artists I should look into?

Anything with Les Claypool (Of Primus). Most could argue that he may be the best bass player in the world. Most of his music fits a common theme, wacky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMsJlJdWof8

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Primus sucks!

But seriously, I'd like to second the Primus/Les Claypool recommendation. Dude is crazy good.

"Tommy The Cat" will always be one of my favorite songs. "My Name Is Mud" has some pretty snazzy bass-playing as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCf40wrpdlc

LRADIKAL
Jun 10, 2001

Fun Shoe

Wasabi the J posted:

Y'all are the ridiculous audiophile poo poo.

Some obscure-rear end soundtrack, and y'all have the copies for it.

People have the tracks? You mean an old CD of the game? I just looked it up on youtube.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


It's only one of the best game soundtracks ever made, so of course people know it.

Also, I knew it had sub-bass content, but all the way down to 3hz is pretty crazy. Absolutely nobody back in the day played Quake on anything capable of even 30hz sustained. And maybe one or two people have ever played it on anything capable of sub-10hz. That said, now I want to try it.

KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Jul 4, 2014

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


I definitely didn't have a speaker setup worthy of doing that soundtrack any justice back in 1996/1997...

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

I skipped a bunch of pages again. Was there any ridiculing of audiophiles or was it the usual "Hhhehe those audiophiles sure are ridiculous. On a side note I have this 40000 dollar knob and it's actually great let me explain why..." posting?

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Jerry Cotton posted:

I skipped a bunch of pages again. Was there any ridiculing of audiophiles or was it the usual "Hhhehe those audiophiles sure are ridiculous. On a side note I have this 40000 dollar knob and it's actually great let me explain why..." posting?


TheMadMilkman posted:

The linked software is their most expensive option. Their basic software plus EQ package (which fits my needs, the symphony edition includes features I don't care about) is $438, and they offer sizable discounts beyond that. Still a lot, but not too substantial over the driverack px mentioned earlier when purchased new. I prefer to buy new.

The real point is that I see value in it equal to what it would cost me, and there is a measurable advantage to the type of system. If that makes me worthy of ridicule, so be it.

The latter.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

Wasabi the J posted:

Y'all are the ridiculous audiophile poo poo.

Some obscure-rear end soundtrack, and y'all have the copies for it.

Are you calling Quake obscure? :laugh:

KozmoNaut posted:

It's only one of the best game soundtracks ever made, so of course people know it.

Also, I knew it had sub-bass content, but all the way down to 3hz is pretty crazy. Absolutely nobody back in the day played Quake on anything capable of even 30hz sustained. And maybe one or two people have ever played it on anything capable of sub-10hz. That said, now I want to try it.

So what you're telling me is that Trent Reznor is a crazy person.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

The Quake soundtrack is on the game CD-ROM and it's a pretty drat popular game.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

I like the image of Trent mixing all this poo poo in his fancy studio, shaking the building with his sonic interpretation of the whole quake concept... and then the game comes out and everyone's listening to it on their Creative satellite speakers

BANME.sh
Jan 23, 2008

What is this??
Are you some kind of hypnotist??
Grimey Drawer
I don't remember what PC speakers I had in 1996 but I can guarantee they sounded like poo poo, and I probably didn't even know what a subwoofer was.

*digs out my quake demo disc*

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
I don't know why I hear people say "digging it up," and imagine that they are physically rummaging through piles of poo poo to find a 20 year old game CD.

So yeah, I'm sorry.


BANME.sh posted:

I don't remember what PC speakers I had in 1996 but I can guarantee they sounded like poo poo, and I probably didn't even know what a subwoofer was.

*digs out my quake demo disc*

My setup in 1999 was more ghetto. My PC audio out went to a tape deck adapter to my JVC 3-DISC CHANGER WITH LOTS OF LIGHTS bookshelf system that looked like this

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Wasabi the J posted:

Y'all are the ridiculous audiophile poo poo.

Some obscure-rear end soundtrack, and y'all have the copies for it.

Haha except quake isn't really all that obscure. I mean, Rolling Stone magazine used to have interviews with players who were good at it.

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Yeah in 96when quake released I had my soundcard line-out running to a decent bookshelf setup. I remember the soundtrack having a lot of bass. But you know what else had crazy rattling the walls bass ? Mario Paint for SNES.

TheLastManStanding
Jan 14, 2008
Mash Buttons!
:stare: You weren't kidding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S09X9pNSY30

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

LoL that's the one! My friends and I would use the cartoon animation feature to make comics about each other. This was around 1993 so we were 13. I don't remember in great detail because we were provably stoned, but the stuff we would draw would probably land us in jail if it was published today.

Arrowsmith
Feb 6, 2006

SAGANISTA!

Jerry Cotton posted:

The Quake soundtrack is on the game CD-ROM and it's a pretty drat popular game.

Still the best "pure" twitch FPS ever (3 is arguably up there), especially glquakeworld. Unfortunately serious play pretty much required turning down the awesome music to hear the audio cues made by other players. The soundtrack still got plenty of mileage for me as running/workout music.

Neat about the range on some of those tracks. Reznor doesn't half-rear end anything, does he?

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


He also did all of the sound effects, and they are as awesome and iconic today as they were back in 1996.

TomR
Apr 1, 2003
I both own and operate a pirate ship.
I was poking around this morning and found a box that does nothing: http://www.lessloss.com/firewall-p-196.html

Looks pretty nice though.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

TomR posted:

I was poking around this morning and found a box that does nothing: http://www.lessloss.com/firewall-p-196.html

Looks pretty nice though.

That's not true. If you look at the pictures you'll see you can lean your pan flute CDs against it!

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


No caps, no inductors, no resistors, no fuses, no diodes.

In other words, an extremely overpriced extension cord.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

quote:

(1) Proper Connection
When connecting power to the Firewall through the DFPC Signature, please make absolutely
certain that the Live wire from your wall is going through the Live wire of the DFPC Signature,
and into the hole in the IEC connector at the end of the DFPC Signature which is marked
with the letter “L”. Likewise, when you connect the Firewall in this manner, please make
sure that the Schuko wall outlet of the Firewall has the Live signal coming out of the hole
which is marked “Line” on the Schuko wall type outlet, or is the smaller of the two slits
in the USA/Japan wall type outlet. Please do not experiment with the N and L connections
by ear, but ensure that they are correct for each LessLoss cable and Firewall separately.

W.. what? You have to personally check all their poo poo is wired the right way round? :psyduck:

eggsovereasy
May 6, 2011

KozmoNaut posted:

No caps, no inductors, no resistors, no fuses, no diodes.

In other words, an extremely overpriced extension cord.

Also antivibration and damping technologies! I sure am tired of my vibrating power cable loving up my audio events.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


In a heated discussion about the audible effects of choosing a different power supply for your network switch (yes, really!), I trotted out the well-known facts about how short-term and long-term auditory memory and how the human brain interprets sensory inputs.

The reply?

"Thanks for your post about how your ears and auditory memory works. For some of us, it works in a very different way."

:negative:

On the forum in question, a significant segment of the user base also strongly advocates using only hand-made audiophile fuses in every device and in the main fuse box. They also recommend making sure the fuses are turned the right way ("you'll hear it when it's right") and cleaning all electrical connections in the power supply chain at least every other month. Remember to wear those white cotton gloves!

E: And some more wonderful snake oil I stumpled across today:

http://www.systemsandmagic.com/index_file/espira_en.htm

KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Jul 9, 2014

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
There wasn't even a point in detailing human perception, since all network switches do is transmit digital data, that gets error corrected on the respective layers. But then again, some of these idiots freeze their CDs before listening, so...

Also, I'm praying to win the lottery anytime soon, so that I can fulfill my livelong wish to buy up all sort of audiophile snakeoil and tear it apart in pictures.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Combat Pretzel posted:

There wasn't even a point in detailing human perception, since all network switches do is transmit digital data, that gets error corrected on the respective layers. But then again, some of these idiots freeze their CDs before listening, so...

Also, I'm praying to win the lottery anytime soon, so that I can fulfill my livelong wish to buy up all sort of audiophile snakeoil and tear it apart in pictures.

Ah no, because you see, it's the analog noise on the network that reaches through and disturbs the DACs and other components :pseudo:

"But wouldn't toslink or fiberoptic networking be better?" No! Because optical connections have massive jitter :pseudo:

Even if you do win the lottery, don't buy any of that garbage. There is no reason whatsoever to support shysters and snake oil-selling con men.

In another discussion (on toslink vs. coax), a couple of users have started insulting my equipment choices directly, saying they would never own a single piece of the equipment that I'm using. Which is perfectly fine by me, since I picked it according my needs and wants, not the approval of crazy audiophiles. Oddly enough they cannot come up with a single legitimate critique. I wonder why.

TomR
Apr 1, 2003
I both own and operate a pirate ship.
Inspect Your Gadgets > Ridiculed by audiophiles

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

KozmoNaut posted:

Even if you do win the lottery, don't buy any of that garbage. There is no reason whatsoever to support shysters and snake oil-selling con men.
The tears and induced aneurysms would be worth it.

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat

I know you are being facetious, but can you really argue with this?

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Jerk McJerkface posted:

I know you are being facetious, but can you really argue with this?



No more than I can argue with stuff like this, they are equally absurd:

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

My ears hurt just looking at that last pic

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

KozmoNaut posted:

No more than I can argue with stuff like this, they are equally absurd:
Creative's marketing has always been bonkers, but their current set of cards has some decent components, if you're willing to pay the price for them. Their drivers work for a change now with low DPC and all that, unlike Asus despite their promises in the past, and their DSPs do true 44.1KHz now, too.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


The "fancy power cable brigade" has gone into a self-sustaining cycle of bullshit posts, describing the changes power cables made to their systems as "monumental", "earth-shattering" and "blew me off my chair". One of them even said that the changes were similarly massive as changing interconnect cables, I guess I can only agree with him on that :v:

I've asked them to compare these effects and rate them compared to something like moving a speaker 1cm sideways or moving their heads while listening to music. If the above-mentioned changes are that massive to them, the phase and time delay changes from moving about slightly while listening must be absolutely galactic in magnitude.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

KozmoNaut posted:

The "fancy power cable brigade" has gone into a self-sustaining cycle of bullshit posts, describing the changes power cables made to their systems as "monumental", "earth-shattering" and "blew me off my chair". One of them even said that the changes were similarly massive as changing interconnect cables, I guess I can only agree with him on that :v:

I've asked them to compare these effects and rate them compared to something like moving a speaker 1cm sideways or moving their heads while listening to music. If the above-mentioned changes are that massive to them, the phase and time delay changes from moving about slightly while listening must be absolutely galactic in magnitude.

You just can't reason with audiophiles, unfortunately.

However, you can make fun of them and should find a way to leech money off of them because why not at this point.

Wild EEPROM
Jul 29, 2011


oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.
My favorite are the "Power cable roundup" reviews that pit 5+ cables against each other, with the reviewer describing the characteristics

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Wild EEPROM posted:

My favorite are the "Power cable roundup" reviews that pit 5+ cables against each other, with the reviewer describing the characteristics

Or the USB cable reviews where they deign to include a basic "piece of liquorice" standard USB cable, to show what the plebes are content with using because they have ears of sack cloth and the sophistication of a pig wallowing in mud.

Sagacity
May 2, 2003
Hopefully my epitaph will be funnier than my custom title.
Links, please!

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Unfortunately, the forum I'm currently trolling researching is Danish, so it won't make a lot of sense for most of you.

As for USB cable reviews, take a pick. These are all from the first page of a "USB cable review" Google search.

http://www.audiostream.com/content/usb-cable-shootout
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/2013-tas-editors-choice-awards-digital-interconnects/
http://headmania.org/2013/02/19/the-audiophile-cable-surprise-wireworld-starlight-red-vs-chord-usb-silver-plus/
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/usbcables/3.html

Honestly, it's cable porn. Just look at the pictures. It's jewelry for wealthy old white men's fancy-pants stereos.

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Selklubber
Jul 11, 2010
Just post the danish, I'm norwegian so written danish is kinda readable.

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