A Buttery Pastry posted:

I made an improved version of the "map".

Torrannor posted:

For some reason, Denmark is just good enough to be considered an "advanced society", A Buttery Pastry.

Torrannor posted:

Block is the proper German spelling of bloc, could be a German who made it. As for the Russia voting thing, that had decreased dramatically in this year's Eurovision, even though Russia sent two beautiful, blond, barely legal twin girls to the contest. Seems like Putin hasn't gained any friends with his Crimea adventure.

Torrannor posted:

For some reason, Denmark is just good enough to be considered an "advanced society", A Buttery Pastry.

A Buttery Pastry posted:

I made an improved version of the "map".

Torrannor posted:

For some reason, Denmark is just good enough to be considered an "advanced society", A Buttery Pastry.

SaltyJesus posted:

There are two Slovakias on your map, one traditional one modern.

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Slovakia and Belgium are basically the same country.

SaltyJesus posted:

3peat posted:

I found that hilarious actually

Peanut President posted:

USA not bottom left, voted 1.

SaltyJesus posted:

BBJoey posted:

I see that the Magyar culture has been deemed too alien to chart on this scale. Albania's missing too. And apparently Cyprus is an Asian country ???

e: and Portugal isn't there either. What the gently caress is even going on.

BBJoey posted:

And apparently Cyprus is an Asian country ???

BBJoey posted:

That seems more questionable than most continental claims, given Cyprus belongs to the EU.

BBJoey posted:

That seems more questionable than most continental claims, given Cyprus belongs to the EU.

BBJoey posted:

I see that the Magyar culture has been deemed too alien to chart on this scale. Albania's missing too. And apparently Cyprus is an Asian country ???

e: and Portugal isn't there either. What the gently caress is even going on.

Torrannor posted:

Look at a map and tell me why Cyprus should be part of Europe, when the nearest countries are all Asian, and the African coast is nearer than the coast of Greece. There is no doubt that it's geographically part of Asia. But for cultural reasons, it's counted as European. Which is certainly fine, but others saying it's part of Asia do have a strong argument. In the end, it's just a matter of taste.

A Buttery Pastry posted:

A lot of countries are missing. Maybe because they undermine the whole cultural connection the graphic is trying to show?

BBJoey posted:

I wouldn't claim they have ulterior motives, but some of the choices on where to include are confusing. Why North Ireland, while Scotland gets tossed in with Britain? Why Moldova, while Hungary is ignored? Why Macedonia and not Albania?

Honj Steak posted:

What would happen if Sweden and Zimbabwe declared unification tomorrow?

IntricoInutile posted:

Business Insider loves maps.

This one might be overreaching: analyzing data and plotting countries on a "culture map."



It didn't survive the Zamzar .png to .jpg conversion well.

The bottom words are Survival Values and Self-Expression Values

Original report at http://www.businessinsider.com/inglehart-welzel-culture-map-2014-7

Deltasquid posted:

Belgium: less secular than Bulgaria.

SaltyJesus posted:

Yeah, it was a joke and I see your point. I'm kinda confused though, by what measure could Romania possibly be two stripes more reactionary than loving Serbia or Bulgaria? And somehow worse than Moldova?

A Buttery Pastry posted:

I made an improved version of the "map".

BBJoey posted:

I see that the Magyar culture has been deemed too alien to chart on this scale.

Concerned Citizen posted:

Replace "regressive societies," "traditional societies," "modern societies," and "advanced societies" with "no white people," "some white people," "a lot of white people," and "mostly white people."

3peat posted:

I would have made a IT'S THERE and point at Mongolia joke but apparently that one's missing too

Concerned Citizen posted:

Replace "regressive societies," "traditional societies," "modern societies," and "advanced societies" with "no white people," "some white people," "a lot of white people," and "mostly white people."

3peat posted:

you do some fasting if you remember to, maybe you go to church at christmas and easter, you do the cross sign from time to time and you eat the traditional food for whatever holiday

3peat posted:

"pocaiti"

Jerry Cotton posted:

I bet Sweden wouldn't be topmost rightmost in that case.

3peat posted:

I assume it's because of those opinion polls where Romania comes out as extremely religious, and because we have a lot of churches (they're many but empty). The problem is that being "religious" in Romania (and I assume in other eastern european orthodox countries) means that you do some fasting if you remember to, maybe you go to church at christmas and easter, you do the cross sign from time to time and you eat the traditional food for whatever holiday. The talk about religion here is pretty much just when you're supposed to really fast, when you should eat fish during a fast, what priest sings the best at weddings, etc; it's just a mix of tradition and superstition, plus a ton of hypocrisy.
If you start to talk about actual religion stuff like Jesus, the bible, etc people will think you're weird and avoid you; this happens to the converts to those weird american cults like adventists, evangelists, etc, they're the ones that tend to talk a lot about those things and as a result they're seen kinda as mentally ill or strange at best, and avoided; there's a general term for them, "pocaiti" (the repented ones) which by now is like a slur word. And for example, in my region we have a big tatar/turkish minority, and if you marry a tatar girl your parents will be way more accepting than if you marry a "pocait", since muslim tatars are way more similar to orthodox romanians in their casual approach to religion than converts to those cults. I even know mixed families where they follow both religions in the sense they celebrate both christmas and eid/ramadan, eat both pasca and baclava/suberec, etc.

Anyway, in terms of being socially conservative and tolerant towards gays or other minorities Romania is definitely better than the likes of Moldova, Russia, Ukraine or even Poland (abortions for everybody over here! most per capita in europe lol) but there's still a long way to go before we reach western europe. I would say some stuff about the romanian orthodox church and what a terrible organization of thieves and crooks it is, but am too lazy to type so many words and I would just get angry

SaltyJesus posted:

e: you earn bonus piety points for having an orthodox icon keychain or rearview mirror dangler

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This is interesting, the Serbian word for "to repent" is "pokajati se" ("se" is just the reflexive part of the verb). The repentant ones would be "pokajnici". I suppose it could be an older word that escaped Francization of the Romanian language?

Concerned Citizen posted:

Replace "regressive societies," "traditional societies," "modern societies," and "advanced societies" with "no white people," "some white people," "a lot of white people," and "mostly white people."