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triplexpac posted:Taking off Rey's mask and turning him heel was a great move Hey now! Removing Rey's mask was Kevin Nash putting over Mysterio. You can't make money on masked luchadores in the US.
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triplexpac posted:Taking off Rey's mask and turning him heel was a great move This would be considered a fantasy-booking joke/lolrandom TEW booking if it hadn't actually happened.
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ChampRamp posted:The biggest heel turn in history happened 18 years ago NWO 2 sweet 4 life brother!! \m/ (`u') \m/
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Havoc904 posted:I put on Bash at the Beach 2000 yesterday since I remember hearing how bad the Hogan/Jarrett segment was. I knew that WCW was a clusterfuck at the time, but it still amazes me by how much the crap seeped down through the whole card. This is when I stopped watching WCW - Russo booked everyone as mean, self-righteous assholes. I didn't know who to cheer for because they were all obnoxious. Who were the faces, the Millionaire's Club or the New Blood? I stumbled upon a Nitro from 2000 a couple of weeks ago, and all that crap just made me angry. But hey, let's rather discuss WCW in 1997, Russo has been discussed way to much, everywhere.
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Havoc904 posted:Also, were all the heel/face alignments muddled during 2000 for WCW? Whenever you look at a card, it is always packed with big multi man matches from all kinds of stables. It really feels like a 15 year old's wet dream for booking with 10 different stables all going on at once. This is exactly how I feel about Dragon Gate most of the time.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:This would be considered a fantasy-booking joke/lolrandom TEW booking if it hadn't actually happened. Raw Vs Smackdown (2010?) had evil Rey Mysterio storyline. Swagger caused a car crash and Rey had no memory...except Swagger saying he was Rey's only friend. It was awesome.
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I'm looking through late period WCW PPVs and man, the Filthy Animals' feuds were perfect SHADES OF GRAY bullshit. They debuted feuding with Vampiro and the Insane Clown Posse, who I think were also supposed to be faces, but were playing heels. Then they started feuding with The Revolution, who were explicitly YOU PEOPLE heels. But in the middle of that they had a mini-feud with Ric Flair when they stole his wallet and in turn Flair cost them a match against the Revolution, despite Flair being a face. During the feud with Revolution came Souled Out 2000. This is the PPV that had Bret Hart (then champion) and Jeff Jarrett (Hart's partner in NWO 2000) both get injured the week before the show. So instead of Bret defending the belt against Sid and Jeff Jarrett putting Chris Benoit through a TRIPLE THREAT THEATER best of three series on the show, Benoit/Sid became the main event and a pre-show angle was shot where Revolution attacked Konnan and... Kidman was put into a series of three matches against the three members of Revolution. Except Shane Douglas was injured, so the third match Kidman had was against THE WALL. They were still faces I guess, even though they had recently beaten up Ric Flair, driven him out into the desert and left him for dead. Also Kidman had been teasing dissention and a heel turn against Konnan on and off for months while he was doing his KIDCAM which definitely wasn't GTV. Then the Filthy Animals effectively broke up for a few months so Kidman could actually turn heel and start his feud with Hulk Hogan, where Hogan put him over by beating him repeatedly and stealing his girlfriend. After that star-making feud with Hogan, the Filthy Animals reformed as lower-card heels. This is where Havoc904 came in. The next month they became lackeys for THE NEW BLOOD that was RISING for about a month before they turned face to feud with Russo's new lackeys The Natural Born Thrillers while Kidman feuded with Shane Douglas over possession of Torrie Wilson and a bottle of viagra on a pole. Then they kind of petered out, much like the promotion. I was going to say it's remarkable that they had three-four turns in their less-than-two-year existence, but it was Russo/Late WCW so it wasn't remarkable at all.
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Edge & Christian posted:...so Kidman could actually turn heel and start his feud with Hulk Hogan, where Hogan put him over by beating him repeatedly and stealing his girlfriend. Just being in the ring with the Hulkster will give you the rub, brother!
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no it was even better, Kidman was cucked by Horace Hogan
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I loved The Filthy Animals when they beat up Ric Flair and stole his watch. Plus all the Kidman/Rey tags were fun to watch.
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Rey and Kidman as a tag team was really excellent, and the tag division for awhile in 1999 was incredible. Jersey Triad, Rey/Kidman, Raven/Saturn, Benoit/Malenko, Harlem Heat, West Texas Rednecks. Really good matches pretty much every week on Nitro. Then of course they ruined all of that with the Harris Brothers and David Flair. Did you know the tag team titles changed hands 15 times in 1999, not including 3 vacancies?
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Jul 8, 2014 17:10
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The Harris Bros were passable attractions in ECW, how did they keep getting work?
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coconono posted:The Harris Bros were passable attractions in ECW, how did they keep getting work? Friends with Russo.
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bobkatt013 posted:Friends with Russo. Also, huge dudes in a size oriented business who happened to be twins.
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They're also racist Nazi assholes that thought nothing of working for a guy whose mother was a Holocaust survivor.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:They're also racist Nazi assholes that thought nothing of working for a guy whose mother was a Holocaust survivor. Do not forget showing him their sweet new Nazi tattoos.
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And then one of them (the bald one) wore an SS shirt at a TNA weekly PPV. People got pissed, and all the company did was say "Don't wear that shirt anymore" and continued to employ them. And didn't have them cover up their Nazi tattoos.
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I think they were also Macho Man's bodyguards at one point because he was terrified Hulk Hogan would come after him after he released his rap album?Pope Corky the IX posted:And then one of them (the bald one) wore an SS shirt at a TNA weekly PPV. People got pissed, and all the company did was say "Don't wear that shirt anymore" and continued to employ them. And didn't have them cover up their Nazi tattoos.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:And then one of them (the bald one) wore an SS shirt at a TNA weekly PPV. People got pissed, and all the company did was say "Don't wear that shirt anymore" and continued to employ them. And didn't have them cover up their Nazi tattoos. Does UFC still employ that one guy who has a giant Nazi eagle tattoo?
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Melvin Costa? He's never been in the UFC,and I'm certain they would never hire him.
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Edge & Christian posted:I'm looking through late period WCW PPVs and man, the Filthy Animals' feuds were perfect SHADES OF GRAY bullshit. Just reading this made my eyes cross. That TNA chart of alliances someone had to do for a Toxx has nothing on the constant shifting of alliances and feuds in late-era WCW, it's exhausting to even keep track of it from week to week. gently caress, sometimes alliances shift from hour to hour on the show.
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Tato posted:Just reading this made my eyes cross. That TNA chart of alliances someone had to do for a Toxx has nothing on the constant shifting of alliances and feuds in late-era WCW, it's exhausting to even keep track of it from week to week. gently caress, sometimes alliances shift from hour to hour on the show. I think I did it for a couple of months and it made no sense.
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Tato posted:Just reading this made my eyes cross. That TNA chart of alliances someone had to do for a Toxx has nothing on the constant shifting of alliances and feuds in late-era WCW, it's exhausting to even keep track of it from week to week. gently caress, sometimes alliances shift from hour to hour on the show. Controversy Costs Ca$h.
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Halloween Jack posted:Melvin Costa? He's never been in the UFC,and I'm certain they would never hire him. I don't watch MMA, I just remember seeing some dude on some show who had a bunch of Nazi tattoos and deciding never to watch whichever promotion that was again.
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oatgan posted:I'm pretty sure Ron was suspended for it because there's a period of a few weeks when Don is receiving a singles push and promo time (he's very bad at promos) with no mention of Ron anywhere. Which Harris Boy cut the "this piece of poo poo company" promo in TNA? Because he's the best promo.
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Luigi Thirty posted:I don't watch MMA, I just remember seeing some dude on some show who had a bunch of Nazi tattoos and deciding never to watch whichever promotion that was again. Seems like you're doing a good job since you can't even remember the promotion's name.
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Join us tonight in Tuesday Night Nitro as WCW and the nWo wishes Arn Anderson a happy retirement.
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Luigi Thirty posted:I don't watch MMA, I just remember seeing some dude on some show who had a bunch of Nazi tattoos and deciding never to watch whichever promotion that was again. If it was American TV you're probably thinking of Brandon "White Steel" Saling, who somehow managed to get televised by both Bellator and Strikeforce because this sport is incredibly scummy.
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To be fair, he lied on his application for a license to two athletic commissions. There was also a guy that UFC signed, but they fired him before he ever fought a match because of his neo-Nazi connections.
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ayn rand hand job posted:Join us tonight in Tuesday Night Nitro as WCW and the nWo wishes Arn Anderson a happy retirement. What a nice gesture, surely he will appreciate that
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Luigi Thirty posted:Does UFC still employ that one guy who has a giant Nazi eagle tattoo? Sean "Big Sexy" McCorkle had a chest tat like that, he's been out of the UFC for awhile. But again since its MMA you could be talking about any of the already mentioned people or quite a few more
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triplexpac posted:What a nice gesture, surely he will appreciate that Some people said he was furious, some people said he thought it was funny. Which one was it?
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Luigi Thirty posted:Some people said he was furious, some people said he thought it was funny. Which one was it? Both. Story I've heard is that he thought it was funny in the moment, then became angry when he saw how much it upset his wife.
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Luigi Thirty posted:I don't watch MMA, I just remember seeing some dude on some show who had a bunch of Nazi tattoos and deciding never to watch whichever promotion that was again. wwe wcw and ecw all employed a pair of twins who were openly neo nazis and only ecw fired them after discovering that fact
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I can't tell which show this is supposed to be dissing, and I'm okay with not knowing the right answer.
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John Cena posted:wwe wcw and ecw all employed a pair of twins who were openly neo nazis and only ecw fired them after discovering that fact TNA too.
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"Nitro"
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