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Is there any official confirmation that this manga/show name was inspired by Muse?
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It probably was not and I hope not for many reasons.
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Jul 8, 2014 00:20
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I'm not really sure why I decided to watch this over the weekend (I haven't watched any anime in years) but I'm glad I did. How fanservicey is the manga? I'd love to explore the world more but the whole "ha ha the protagonist accidentally peeped/groped another girl how funny" thing is what drove me away from anime in the first place.
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Jul 8, 2014 00:25
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YorexTheMad posted:I'm not really sure why I decided to watch this over the weekend (I haven't watched any anime in years) but I'm glad I did. All of those incidents occur in the manga as well. So if you thought they came up too often in the anime, you'll certainly feel that way about the manga.
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Jul 8, 2014 00:30
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On the other hand they don't happen nearly as much as some other anime, plus you get piss filtration with KoS.
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Jul 8, 2014 00:33
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If anything you should check out the manga if you'd enjoyed the space battles since that episode with the mission montage is played out in its entirely since they had to speed the plot up to fit the finale within the 12th episode.
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Jul 8, 2014 00:37
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I forgot to also mention the dub is great. There's some weird pauses in inflection here and there and the localization uses "Crimson Hawk Moth" in place of Benisuzume (presumably a literal translation) which may throw you off a little but they picked a good cast and the voices fit well. Also they pronounce "Higgs" as "hay-gis" and I'm not sure why.
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Jul 8, 2014 03:52
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Zeether posted:Also they pronounce "Higgs" as "hay-gis" and I'm not sure why.
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Jul 8, 2014 04:00
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Paracelsus posted:The Sidonia's outer shell is actually a sheep's stomach, the whole thing runs on Haggis particles. 
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Jul 8, 2014 04:07
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Wait, Higgs? Netflix subs say Heigus and actually that's something that really bugs me coming from the manga. Same with ena over placenta. e: poo poo they pulled some decent talent for this dub too, and thank fuuuck no Liam O'Brien!
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Jul 8, 2014 04:16
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I just started watching this show a few hours ago on Netflix, and....drat The animation was really grating for the first few episodes, but I got used to it pretty quick. It's halfway generic mecha kind of show, but around episode 7~8 it starts to get pretty interesting. 10+ has really had me hooked with a nonstop hype train, and I'm pretty glad I wasted my whole night on this show. The animation REALLY shines in combat segments.
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Jul 8, 2014 05:32
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Finished watching this and I really liked it.
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Jul 8, 2014 08:44
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Zeether posted:Also they pronounce "Higgs" as "hay-gis" and I'm not sure why. Japanese is bad at guttural sounds and syllables.
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Jul 8, 2014 08:54
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ヒッグス粒子 (Higgs Boson) ヘイグス粒子 (Hyggs/Heigus/Heigs Particle)
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Jul 8, 2014 09:42
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lakp posted:ヒッグス粒子 (Higgs Boson) - ヒッグス粒子 "Higgs" is pronounced with a "he" like "he's got a space harem", followed by a more-or-less correct "gz" at the end. - ヘイグス粒子 The show pronounces it this way in Japanese, which does sound like "heygz" instead. As for "en" instead of placenta, well, maybe the translators got a bit lazy or took some liberty. "Ena" is the Japanese word for placenta, which is what's used in the original JP writing.
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Jul 8, 2014 11:46
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The science in the show has been pretty good in places. Should I be thinking about how organic creatures can be the size of warships and live in intergalactic space?
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Jul 8, 2014 15:57
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Nebakenezzer posted:The science in the show has been pretty good in places. Should I be thinking about how organic creatures can be the size of warships and live in intergalactic space? If you think about that, you also have to think about how an organic creature can survive being shot directly by a mass driver large enough to disintegrate an asteroid or how one can survive being in the heart of a gas giant as that gas giant implodes from the force of a planet killing warhead. Basically anything human in the show has a vague grounding of pseudoscience and anything gauna related is spooky and weird and impossible.
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Jul 8, 2014 16:39
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Here's what you need to know about the science in the show: Who gives a poo poo? It's a tv show. There you go.
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Jul 8, 2014 19:41
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The Black Stones posted:Here's what you need to know about the science in the show: True enough, but I think enough effort was put into the Gauna making even less sense than normal SF logic, that it could be considered a specific narrative intent.
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Jul 8, 2014 21:22
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Clarste posted:True enough, but I think enough effort was put into the Gauna making even less sense than normal SF logic, that it could be considered a specific narrative intent. That's what I was getting at. There's a deliberate contrast between the human technology being at least superficially grounded in our understanding of physics and technology and the fact that the gauna very deliberately don't make any loving sense as an intentional way to make the gauna come off as even weirder and more incomprehensible.
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Jul 8, 2014 22:11
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Blew through this over the long weekend. Was not bothered at all by the cheap looking CG, thanks to the extremely interesting story and great action scenes. Seriously, that death star run in the last two episodes was some of the best action I've seen in an anime, ever. That said, I really hope they throttle back on the romance stuff. It's insanely uninteresting, especially when the majority of the main character's responses are "huh?" and [nervous].
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Jul 8, 2014 23:27
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threeagainstfour posted:That said, I really hope they throttle back on the romance stuff. It's insanely uninteresting, especially when the majority of the main character's responses are "huh?" and [nervous]. You don't actually want to watch this show. Maybe try Attack on Titan instead.
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Jul 8, 2014 23:29
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:You don't actually want to watch this show. Maybe try Attack on Titan instead. I mean, if the manga or season 2 take it to a more interesting place, then the romance will be good in the end. The romance in season 1, on its own, is pretty bland. I'll stick with it because the story and setting are very well done so far.
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Jul 8, 2014 23:32
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threeagainstfour posted:I mean, if the manga or season 2 take it to a more interesting place, then the romance will be good in the end. The romance in season 1, on its own, is pretty bland. Oh, does it ever take the "romance" to a more interesting place. Hint: you're not supposed to take the romance stuff seriously at all, it just a little bit of fun/levity in an otherwise bleak series. Izana will pout, Midorikawa is going to be bossy, the best girl is going to be the best girl, etc.
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Jul 9, 2014 00:30
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Besides, watching Izana just get increasingly screwed is pretty funny even though s/he's a cool guy/girl.
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Jul 9, 2014 00:49
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gauna are made out of the exact same material titans are made from
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Jul 9, 2014 01:35
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The Black Stones posted:Here's what you need to know about the science in the show: This is pretty much what I figured - though I think "the Gauna make no sense as a deliberate choice in writing" is a cool idea.
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Jul 9, 2014 02:08
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One of my friends had the gall to question the logic and physics behind the rocket punch holding a bullet. He hasn't seen too many mecha series.
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Jul 9, 2014 04:14
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It's funny that the mechs have a never used rocket punch that everyone else kind of forgot about.
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Jul 9, 2014 07:33
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The current ones probably don't. Remember Tanikaze uses an obsolete model because it's what he spent his entire life training on in the old simulator. Some engineer who argued rocket punches were impractical and ridiculous in real combat really has egg on his face now. 
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Jul 9, 2014 07:52
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Sindai posted:The current ones probably don't. Remember Tanikaze uses an obsolete model because it's what he spent his entire life training on in the old simulator. The only reason he could take on the Red Gauna was because his mech has an anti-higgs coating, which was deemed too expensive to install on new models because gauna rarely used beam weapons.
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Jul 9, 2014 07:59
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I like this show. First and foremost, nobody had eyes that turned into hearts, or a bubble out their nose when sleeping or giant beads of sweat. It had some great things going for it, in particular the captain wearing that mask while on the bridge which I presume was to keep her emotions hidden. There are some great storytelling choices too. It was pretty awesome that the made a point to introduce some pilot in episode two, give her a heartwarming backstory only for her to be eaten. That really drives home the point that probably nobody other than the main guy will have plot armour. On the downside, it is a bit brisk at times and intriguing things seem to be left by the wayside. Like, why is that woman a bear? With a robot hand. How come they could put a woman inside a bear, but couldn't regrow her hand/paw? The mix of technologies they need to fight the terrible creatures from space is really interesting. When they talk about the mass cannon, I figured it was some sort of dense particle technobabble nonsense, but nope! It's a giant cylinder - literally a bunch of mass. The murder spears are a bit silly, but it forces the robots and space monsters to be up close and that is more interesting than lobbing the wonder bullets from dozens of kilometers away. The animation was what it was. The characters look considerably better head on than they do from the side. The only thing that really bothered me was the heavy reuse of some of the mech bits, particularly the four link formation. Considering cost-cutting measures like that, it is weird that all those fish were animated to swim around in the sea for like, a three or four minutes total out of the 12 episodes. Maybe they blew the budget tweaking the whale shark only to have it just faintly in the background.
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Jul 11, 2014 08:38
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I finished the run that's on Netflix. It's a more or less an entertaining show, but kinda uneven. While I'm into the space fighting and scifi intrigue, a lot of stuff makes me roll my eyes like Sonic is spindashing inside of my head, mostly things having to do with dippy anime teenagers. Granted, it's not treated as particularly important and it's not so egregious that it makes the show unlikeable... but Tanikaze is a huge dumbass. I guess growing up in relative isolation might make you a little awkward around people, but this dude is basically the mid point between Shinji and Goku. Then there's Hoshijiro going from one kind of annoying anime stock character and then becoming a far worse one... Plus the show is ugly... but yeah, it might seem like I'm being overly negative, but on the whole I enjoy it. I guess it's a show with problems, none of which are nasty enough to derail it. Is the manga really far along enough for the second season to work, though? Although I guess it all depends on when they intend to air it...
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Jul 11, 2014 09:44
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OnimaruXLR posted:I guess growing up in relative isolation might make you a little awkward around people
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Jul 11, 2014 09:56
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Antifreeze Head posted:Like, why is that woman a bear? With a robot hand. How come they could put a woman inside a bear, but couldn't regrow her hand/paw?  quote:Is the manga really far along enough for the second season to work, though? Although I guess it all depends on when they intend to air it...
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Jul 11, 2014 10:54
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Antifreeze Head posted:It had some great things going for it, in particular the captain wearing that mask while on the bridge which I presume was to keep her emotions hidden. That's part of the reason the Captain wears a mask. The other (real) reason is she's immortal and nobody outside of the immortal council are supposed to know that there are immortals on Sidonia. A highly visible and important figure like the captain of the entire ship never visibly aging would raise questions. The interesting thing is that the show spent a lot more time on that character and Tanikaze's reaction to her than the manga did, which I thought was a pretty good choice. Hiyama(bear lady)'s story is explored later in the manga beyond where the show got. OnimaruXLR posted:I finished the run that's on Netflix. Tanikaze grew up in a hole in the ground living off garbage and spending all of his time learning how to pilot giant robots in simulators. His only human contact was his grandfather who died several years ago. Forget being awkward and obtuse, he should be unable to communicate properly with other human beings or understand gestures or read context or basically anything we learn how to do simply from interacting with people as kids. It's actually implausible that he's as together and socially conscious as he is. As for whether they have enough material, the first season cut out a metric shitload of chapters(the entire montage ep), so if they feel like they're going to run short of material they can simply slow the pacing down.
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Jul 11, 2014 12:43
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Kanos posted:That's part of the reason the Captain wears a mask. The other (real) reason is she's immortal and nobody outside of the immortal council are supposed to know that there are immortals on Sidonia. A highly visible and important figure like the captain of the entire ship never visibly aging would raise questions. Don't several people other than those in the iron lungs see her without the mask at some point anyway? I know Takikaze does, but I could be misremembering. Even if not, a mask isn't enough to keep people from noticing someone was aging. For the amount they use the news as a means to fill in backstory and expand on events, it seems strange that nobody in the press corps has managed to dig up anything that significant.  MY PROFESSION Anyway, I guess I can look forward to some of those mysteries being delved into a little bit more, particularly if the show will need to be slowed down to match up with the print version of the story. Antifreeze Head fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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Jul 11, 2014 13:57
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Antifreeze Head posted:Don't several people other than those in the iron lungs see her without the mask at some point anyway? I know Takikaze does, but I could be misremembering. Even if not, a mask isn't enough to keep people from noticing someone was aging. All indications suggest that news on Sidonia is a state-controlled propaganda tool. Don't expect much investigative journalism here.
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Antifreeze Head posted:For the amount they use the news as a means to fill in backstory and expand on events, it seems strange that nobody in the press corps has managed to dig up anything that significant. :argh" MY PROFESSION You remember that guy waving a signpost around and shouting? He's doing his best, okay? 
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