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MinistryofLard posted:UnacceptableTargets Nobody likes Manchester United fans either, though. 
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Finisher1 posted:http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3458196 Last I heard of him was when 4chan got his attention a few months ago. I'm not sure about the details but apparently he couldn't figure out how futaba posting worked at all.
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Jul 8, 2014 19:42
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This is tangentially related to TvTropes, with their rape obsession. What is it with anime and hentai that rape is so prevalent? Why must every sexual situation involve sexual assault and molestation? Consensual sex doesn't seem to exist in anime, and thus in Tropers' minds.
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Jul 8, 2014 21:51
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The makers of those things know what their audience wants. So they give them what they want so that they throw piles of money at them. Which is what they need since they are already playing a niche as hell market with that kind of thing.
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Arcsquad12 posted:This is tangentially related to TvTropes, with their rape obsession. What is it with anime and hentai that rape is so prevalent? Why must every sexual situation involve sexual assault and molestation? Consensual sex doesn't seem to exist in anime, and thus in Tropers' minds. The problem isn't that anime has a prevalence of sexual abuse as comedy as much as it is that your average troper (or western anime fan, really) favors a really narrow and lopsided cross section of the format, and that heavily skews peoples impression of it. Like, imagine someone who says "I like to read books" when they really mean "I read Xanth, video game novelizations, and Ayn Rand almost exclusively" and you have a decent analogue to your average anime fan. Its a medium that covers literally every genre of fiction but gently caress if you actually hear about most of it; to revisit a point I brought up in a different thread, Sazae-San is the most popular and long-running anime in Japanese history, but its basically Peanuts crossed with Cathy and you'll never see anyone at an anime convention cosplaying it because its not cheap pulpy SciFi/fantasy aimed at 13 year olds.
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Jul 8, 2014 22:12
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Also, Japan has super hosed up gender politics, in particular a weird purity fetish. If the heroine (or hero, in yaoi) wanted sex and was clear and unapologetic about doing so, they'd no longer be the creepy nerd audience's perfect pure waifus. Thus, rape is the only kind of sex they can have, but since it's with their special, wonderful love interest, they totally enjoy it and it all works out OK in the end (after the requisite period of angst). That's the good-rape, anyway (I know, yuck). The bad-rape is because of related factors. Gross shut-in nerds are aware that rape is bad, so it's cheaply used to show that a villain is really really evil. The purity fetish comes in because if the heroine gets raped, she is no longer the perfect pure waifu for the hero, making a villain's desire to capture and rape her a threat against the hero/audience-insert. The second cour of Sword Art Online is a good (read: terrible) example of this.
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On an entirely unrelated note... Well, apparently the guy who's been reading this thread and been badmouthing SA on his blog/LJ is a contributor to All The Tropes, if this comment is anything to go by. 
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WickedHate posted:I have no idea who this is and would like to know more. I looked him up and found a book with low ratings going for over two thousand dollars new, and a fanfiction.net account of what appears to be him having written fanfiction for the book he himself wrote. I see the link to his old thread has already been posted, but long story short, J-F Bibeau is a majestically dysfunctional weeaboo who, like so many other delusional nerds on the Internet, decided to write and self-publish the NEXT BIG FANTASY NOVEL. What makes him, and it, special is the sheer mass of his delusion and the sheer unreadability of his prose. I've owned a copy of Felsic Current for over a year and have never gotten more than ten pages in. Honestly, I've been considering launching a Let's Read thread to force myself to actually read the drat thing and share the wonder with the forums. The only thing holding me back is the lack of a digital copy and the lack of desire to type in paragraphs of Bibeau-prose; I'm legitimately considering buying a second copy and having it digitized for this purpose. Good thing there are still affordable copies used!
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Arcsquad12 posted:This is tangentially related to TvTropes, with their rape obsession. What is it with anime and hentai that rape is so prevalent? Why must every sexual situation involve sexual assault and molestation? Consensual sex doesn't seem to exist in anime, and thus in Tropers' minds. It isn't that prevalent overall, at least not more than it is in western regular shows and porn. If your exposure to such things is through tropers, well, you know that where their "taste" lies means they're going to constantly bring up Helpless Monster Tentacle Bride 68 way more than anything. I mean if you never knew anything about American TV and then learned about it mostly through TVTropes, you'd come away thinking American TV was literally full of rape all the time....
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So apparently tropers have gods. I guess it's all supposed to be in good fun or tongue-in-cheek, but like most things TvTropes it tries way the gently caress too hard and comes off as pathetic.
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Froghammer posted:So apparently tropers have gods. The first time I saw that I thought it was dumb but fine, having characters that represent specific concepts is alright. That's not the weird part, though. quote:Bruce Lee, God of Martial Arts and Grandmaster of Jeet Kune Do quote:Andre The Giant, God of Wrestling Giants It turns into weird fanfic. Arist fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Jul 9, 2014 |
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Some people are able to work out that LBJ must have been Vice President at some point if he became President when JFK was shot. But that logic doesn't extend to Lincoln; after Lincoln was shot there just wasn't a President.
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Arcsquad12 posted:This is tangentially related to TvTropes, with their rape obsession. What is it with anime and hentai that rape is so prevalent? Why must every sexual situation involve sexual assault and molestation? Consensual sex doesn't seem to exist in anime, and thus in Tropers' minds. Apparently, to those not all that familiar with it, all Anime and Manga are either geared towards children like Pokémon or Hentai. Which tends to be why fans of anime and manga are Acceptable Hobby Targets. Or more broadly, all anime, as opposed to "cartoons", which anime technically is, is for adults (and thus not appropriate for children), a stigma that exists among both anime fans and mainstream society. It's just the opposite, in fact. Because of cultural and societal differences, what Japan considers "family-friendly" is similar, but not entirely the same as the western definition. Often, those same people use the words "anime" and "manga" interchangeably, or not even realise that the word "manga" exists. (They're used interchangeably in Japan. Japanese people often use the word "manga" in much the same way English speaking people would use the word "cartoon", which refers to both comics, animation, or any other kind of drawing.) Gundam is the only Humongous Mecha anime show you can count on anybody knowing about. Depending in the country, people may or will know about or have heard of Super Dimension Fortress Macross (or Robotech), Go Lion (or Voltron), Mazinger Z (or Tranzor Z), Great Mazinger, UFO Robo Grendizer (or Grandizer, Goldorak or Goldrake), Getter Robo (or Starvengers), Kotetsu Jeeg (or El Vengador), Combattler V, Voltes V, Daimos (or Starbirds), Neon Genesis Evangelion, and newer Mecha Shows will often include cameos or shout-outs to any of them. The rest of Humongous Mecha series are mostly known to anime mecha fans, only.
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Oh my, that Trope Pantheon... Under "Craft" gods, there isn't a single prose writer or classical painter or sculptor under "Overdeities and Greater Gods," but one pony and one ninja maid. Osamu Tezuka is listed as "God of Manga," but at least that's something people have actually called him in real life. It's not until you get to the Intermediate Craft Gods that you find James Joyce and J.R.R. Tolkien, along with the Nostalgia Critic, Andrew Hussie, MacGuyver, and Tony Stark. I wonder how Tolkien--a devout Roman Catholic--would feel about being classified as an "intermediate god" in an Internet pseudo-religion. Or having Iluvatar and Morgoth--which are basically the Abrahamic God and Satan applied to Middle Earth--listed in the Main House, above their own author (but next to Haruhi Suzumiya!). Same goes for Fred Rogers, Presbyterian minister and "Ultimate God of Ultimate Showdowns of Ultimate Destinies." Not "public television" or "kindness" or "imagination." No sir! The only painter among the Craft Gods? Bob Ross, in "Lesser Gods." All of them are ranked under Gary Gygax and the guy from the Lego Movie. Also, not to get all Troper myself, but why is Henry Selick god of stop-motion instead of Ray Harryhausen? I liked Coraline, too, but still! And why Don Bluth as god of American animation instead of Walt Disney, or Chuck Jones?
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Darth Walrus posted:Also, Japan has super hosed up gender politics, in particular a weird purity fetish. If the heroine (or hero, in yaoi) wanted sex and was clear and unapologetic about doing so, they'd no longer be the creepy nerd audience's perfect pure waifus. Thus, rape is the only kind of sex they can have, but since it's with their special, wonderful love interest, they totally enjoy it and it all works out OK in the end (after the requisite period of angst). Holy poo poo, are you serious? I never got into it because it looked like they'd be handling it awkwardly and it'd have a love interest and all kindsa stuff I don't care about. I heard about it being really good, like Attack on Titan though so I'm surprised that that of all things got in.
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Dream of the Endless being listed as a god despite it being made clear that's exactly what the Endless are not bugs me.
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Found the hero of Puma Man in that Pantheon, and he has the casts of The Lost World: Jurassic Park and Left Behind as followers. loving why?
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The obsession with anime girls and figurines is already about having total power over an object of desire. Rape is a natural extension of that.
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MrAristocrates posted:
loving hell, Andre the Giant was a real person who lived a life of suffering due to not being able to cope with the pain that his body went through. Couldn't they even show him a small amount of respect and not chuck in some pony poo poo?
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Antivehicular posted:I see the link to his old thread has already been posted, but long story short, J-F Bibeau is a majestically dysfunctional weeaboo who, like so many other delusional nerds on the Internet, decided to write and self-publish the NEXT BIG FANTASY NOVEL. What makes him, and it, special is the sheer mass of his delusion and the sheer unreadability of his prose. I've owned a copy of Felsic Current for over a year and have never gotten more than ten pages in. I support this 100% and will gladly join in because horrible poo poo read outloud is pretty much always hilarious. No doubt to punish the hubris of that statement, Felsic will be the exception to it
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Antivehicular posted:I see the link to his old thread has already been posted, but long story short, J-F Bibeau is a majestically dysfunctional weeaboo who, like so many other delusional nerds on the Internet, decided to write and self-publish the NEXT BIG FANTASY NOVEL. What makes him, and it, special is the sheer mass of his delusion and the sheer unreadability of his prose. I've owned a copy of Felsic Current for over a year and have never gotten more than ten pages in. I would read this thread.
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I miss the Bibeau thread, and would love to see a Let's Read.
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If anyone missed out on the last Bibeau thread and wants a quick idea of what the guy is like in person, check out this interview regarding his then new book: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA0BNj_FxJU. If you can believe it, the way he's dressed is probably the least awkward thing about him. There are also some videos of him attempting stand up comedy floating around, but I've never made it more than ten seconds into one of those.
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 The only Bibeau thing that ever needs to be posted.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Some people are able to work out that LBJ must have been Vice President at some point if he became President when JFK was shot. But that logic doesn't extend to Lincoln; after Lincoln was shot there just wasn't a President. Uh, what? Did I miss something?
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Gen. Ripper posted:Uh, what? Did I miss something? Yes, but sadly John Wilkes Booth didn't. It's from Small Reference Pools, a trope which here means "Abraham Lincoln is more likely to appear in fiction than Andrew Johnson, therefore everyone else is dumb sheeple who literally believe the presidency stopped existing when Lincoln died and I am a genius for knowing otherwise". Also anime. Here's another quote: quote:Ask someone to mention a golfer and you'll get either 1) Tiger Woods (because he has dark skin) Lottery of Babylon fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Jul 9, 2014 |
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SALT CURES HAM posted:
Is that an SCP thing? It looks like it. What is with Tropers and muthafuckin' SCP? That poo poo used to be a legit 2spooky ARG and then tropers got their grubby infectious hands on it.
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Is that a zelniak, a critter from the MMO EverQuest's ~2001 expansion about fantasy moon aliens?
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I think it's an insane pedo nerd in a disgusting horse suit.
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HapiMerchant posted:Is that an SCP thing? It looks like it. It's supposed to be Kuzco from "The Emperor's New Groove" after he's turned into a llama.
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HapiMerchant posted:Is that an SCP thing? It looks like it. I think somebody saw it, thought it was overwordly, and then turned it into an SCP. Because lets face it, its pretty loving disturbing looking. Khazar-khum posted:It's supposed to be Kuzco from "The Emperor's New Groove" after he's turned into a llama. Ahahah holy poo poo how do you look at this and think "Yeah, I'm gonan wear this as cosplay!"
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SALT CURES HAM posted:
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SALT CURES HAM posted:
Wow, a no-budget Dark Crystal would have given me even more nightmares as a kid.
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Keromaru5 posted:Also, not to get all Troper myself, but why is Henry Selick god of stop-motion instead of Ray Harryhausen? I liked Coraline, too, but still! Probably because he also directed The Nightmare Before Christmas which weirdos from all walks of life seem to fixate on.
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Getting Crap Past the Radar: Super Mario Bros Or: Shut Up Mom, Its Really For Adults! Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Seas posted:Yaridovich claims, "I got to my lofty station in life by... ahem... 'pleasing' my superiors." Paper Mario: the Thousand Year Door posted:A very easily missed "crap past the radar moment" is when Mario is trapped in the cage by Crump in Chapter 2 with all the Punis. Use Goombella on Puniper [the big Puni] and she'll say, "That's Puniper of the Punies. He's a little bigger than the others, obviously. So maybe he can help us reach that special area... Hee hee! Just kidding. His only special power is complaining, I think." 'Special area' would not be that suspect if she hadn't immediately said, "Just kidding." This tattle, by the way, only occurs when you are in the cage — after you get out of the cage and free the Punis, you'll get a different tattle. Super Princess Peach posted:Throughout the game, Peach is fighting for control over the Vibe Scepter. Yes. You read that right — a scepter with a vibe. And it's not just the name that's suggestive, the shape of the thing wouldn't seem too far out of place on your average adult-novelty-toy site, either. Mario and Luigi Series posted:In the French version of Bowser's Inside Story, one area is called "Cul de Sac". Now, Cul de Sac is a perfectly acceptable term, but said area is inside Bowser's... rear area (And "Cul" is basically French for "rear end"). That's right: the translators managed to say "rear end" in a Mario game. My nintedos are actually for big boys. Mario Party Series posted:There are countless mini-games that, thanks to the camera angle, have you staring directly up Peach's or Daisy's dress. Slightly mitigated by the fact that getting such a view reveals them to have nothing but void above the knees. "There are countless mini-games that, thanks to the camera angle," should be read as, "With enough effort, and hours of obsessive hacking to unlock the camera, you can stare right up Peach's dress which I did, not for fapping, but for legitimate reasons such as" EDIT: Oh for fucks sake: quote:A much celebrated result in game theory and theoretical computer science is that calculating the Nash Equilibrium of games with at least three players is more difficult than previously thought. The title of the paper? ''Three-player Games Are Hard''.  : What, I can't get my rocks off reading about game theory? Well, I know the solution to that!
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Alpacalips Now posted:Wow, a no-budget Dark Crystal would have given me even more nightmares as a kid. Thank you for making me realize Bibeau lives on while Jim Henson is no longer with us. There is no justice.
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Getting Crap Past the Radar: Animated Filmsquote:Kiki's Delivery Service
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