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God...I'm really trying to rein in my hype and expectations for Episode VII but I get super fanboy chills every time I see a photo.
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jivjov posted:God...I'm really trying to rein in my hype and expectations for Episode VII but I get super fanboy chills every time I see a photo. Here, let me help: the movie was rushed into production with a first draft of a script, is barreling toward a release date despite its sleepy-acting septuagenarian star having broken his leg on set and having to be out for possibly months, was penned by a man who hasn't written a good script since the 80s, it stars 3 actors in their 60s and 70s whose character arcs were brought to a conclusion decades ago, it will yet again feature overpowered superheroes dancing around with laser swords, is being directed by a man who has put out approximately one film that has critical acclaim, and is coming on the heels of over a decade of false-promises, overblown expectations, and terrible franchise entries. Expectations reined?
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Jul 9, 2014 19:34
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feedmyleg posted:Here, let me help: the movie was rushed into production with a first draft of a script, is barreling toward a release date despite its sleepy-acting septuagenarian star having broken his leg on set and having to be out for possibly months, was penned by a man who hasn't written a good script since the 80s, it stars 3 actors in their 60s and 70s whose character arcs were brought to a conclusion decades ago, it will yet again feature overpowered superheroes dancing around with laser swords, is being directed by a man who has put out approximately one film that has critical acclaim, and is coming on the heels of over a decade of false-promises, overblown expectations, and terrible franchise entries. Not really, haha. I'll refute one bit of that though. I doubt Ford's role was so vital and major that they can't just shuffle filming for Han stuff toward the end of production; I don't think "one of many actors in the movie is injured and out for a bit, but we can still stay more or less on schedule" is a cause for alarm.
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Jul 9, 2014 19:39
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feedmyleg posted:Here, let me help: the movie was rushed into production with a first draft of a script, is barreling toward a release date despite its sleepy-acting septuagenarian star having broken his leg on set and having to be out for possibly months, was penned by a man who hasn't written a good script since the 80s, it stars 3 actors in their 60s and 70s whose character arcs were brought to a conclusion decades ago, it will yet again feature overpowered superheroes dancing around with laser swords, is being directed by a man who has put out approximately one film that has critical acclaim, and is coming on the heels of over a decade of false-promises, overblown expectations, and terrible franchise entries. Yes, but why do you think it's not good? Saying "it's not good" isn't good enough in itself and ignores deeper reading of the film development processes. THE MEDIUM IS THE MESSAGE
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Jul 9, 2014 19:40
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jivjov posted:Not really, haha. I'll refute one bit of that though. I doubt Ford's role was so vital and major that they can't just shuffle filming for Han stuff toward the end of production; I don't think "one of many actors in the movie is injured and out for a bit, but we can still stay more or less on schedule" is a cause for alarm. Most of the major film sites believe that Han Solo is the main character of the film from what I've read; Devin Faraci in particular has a pretty great history of being right about these things. Seeing how all the Millenium Falcon stuff is shooting right now, it seems like a big problem. I actually think the movie has a pretty good chance of being enjoyable, but I think we can all agree that behind the scenes the production is a mess.
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Jul 9, 2014 19:45
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So was Jaws. My point is, this movie is going to be as good as Jaws.
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Jul 9, 2014 20:01
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This should make me exited but all I'm hoping is that Abrams learned from his experience of IMAX on Star Trek into Darkness. I saw STID at a 70mm IMAX theatre and the 70mm sequences were brilliant, the 35mm sequences not so much. The 35mm sequences just didn't seem to have been framed in a way which acknowledged the IMAX audience. I was in the perfect viewing seats in the centre of the theatre, and still spent much of the film moving my head around like a tennis game trying to keep track. An example was they put the subtitles in the top corner, which just should be a no-go when you know the film is intended to be shown on such massive screens. Shaky-cam also just, doesn't, work, on an IMAX screen - those sequences were fairly incomprehensible.
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Jul 9, 2014 20:05
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twoot posted:This should make me exited but all I'm hoping is that Abrams learned from his experience of IMAX on Star Trek into Darkness. I saw STID at a 70mm IMAX theatre and the 70mm sequences were brilliant, the 35mm sequences not so much. The 35mm sequences just didn't seem to have been framed in a way which acknowledged the IMAX audience. I was in the perfect viewing seats in the centre of the theatre, and still spent much of the film moving my head around like a tennis game trying to keep track. An example was they put the subtitles in the top corner, which just should be a no-go when you know the film is intended to be shown on such massive screens. Shaky-cam also just, doesn't, work, on an IMAX screen - those sequences were fairly incomprehensible. I saw The Dark Knight in IMAX, and it was a terrible experience. I left the theater with neck pain. I could only imagine how awful the space battle in the beginning of ROTS would be. It was already impossible to track and figure out, but blown up that large would be terrible.
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Jul 9, 2014 20:17
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Thats you. I thought the IMAX scenes in Dark Knight were loving awesome - especially the bank robbery. Holy gently caress the zip line!! BEAUTIFUL.
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Jul 9, 2014 20:19
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again. There are only ever like two decent seats in an IMAX theater. If you're not lucky enough to sit in one of them, you either don't get to see the whole picture, or you leave the theater with a sore neck.
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Jul 9, 2014 20:22
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Vintersorg posted:Thats you. Agree. I always see films in 70mm IMAX if possible, and I don't remember having any problems during any of Chris Nolan's films. STID just used IMAX particularly badly IMO.
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Jul 9, 2014 20:27
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I'd say it depends on the type of IMAX theater. We have two that are somewhat local, and the older one is a pain in general to deal with due to the outdated uncomfortable seating and viewing angles. The newer one I've never had issues with though, and thought the Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises was a great experience.
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Jul 9, 2014 20:27
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Sklyansky posted:I'd say it depends on the type of IMAX theater. We have two that are somewhat local, and the older one is a pain in general to deal with due to the outdated uncomfortable seating and viewing angles. The newer one I've never had issues with though, and thought the Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises was a great experience. I saw TDK at an IMAX in NYC, I think it was the Lincoln Square AMC, but I don't remember now. It was terrible because you were really close the the screen. I didn't have terribly good seats, middle of the theater, maybe to far to the right, but the theater just felt so small and cramped. I couldn't see the entire screen without moving my eyes entirely left to right. Not that is a scientific measurement, but it made watching the movie very unenjoyable.
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Jul 9, 2014 20:31
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My Gravity in IMAX theater was transcendent. But that might have been from the vaporizer.
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feedmyleg posted:Most of the major film sites believe that Han Solo is the main character of the film from what I've read; Devin Faraci in particular has a pretty great history of being right about these things. Seeing how all the Millenium Falcon stuff is shooting right now, it seems like a big problem. Right, I believe the current hot rumor is that the crux of the story is Han, Leia and some new characters going off in search of a missing Luke.
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Jul 9, 2014 22:56
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I had a dream that was full of crazy poo poo I didn't remember, and im sure Star Wars was not part of it :/
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Timby posted:Right, I believe the current hot rumor is that the crux of the story is Han, Leia and some new characters going off in search of a missing Luke. They find him at the Galactic Buffet in the Outer Rim, using his Jedi powers to hover over a gargantuan trough of food Baron Harkonnen style while he hoovers nauseating amounts of slop into is his now stupendous maw. Han and Leia gasp in horror, realizing their proximity has drawn them near to a kind of event horizon of rapacious gluttony from which there may be no return. Or something like that.
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Jul 10, 2014 00:38
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Sheikh Djibouti posted:They find him at the Galactic Buffet in the Outer Rim, using his Jedi powers to hover over a gargantuan trough of food Baron Harkonnen style while he hoovers nauseating amounts of slop into is his now stupendous maw. Han and Leia gasp in horror, realizing their proximity has drawn them near to a kind of event horizon of rapacious gluttony from which there may be no return. Oh, so basically the plot to The Crystal Star.
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feedmyleg posted:Most of the major film sites believe that Han Solo is the main character of the film from what I've read; Devin Faraci in particular has a pretty great history of being right about these things. Seeing how all the Millenium Falcon stuff is shooting right now, it seems like a big problem. Got some concrete proof? Or even some sourceable rumors beyond "Some guys speculated"?
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Jul 10, 2014 05:49
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api call girl posted:Oh, so basically the plot to The Crystal Star. On reflection, I'm thinking something closer to Pink Flamingos, but in a Star Wars setting. It's too late to cast Divine, but John Waters is still around.
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Jul 10, 2014 06:05
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feedmyleg posted:Most of the major film sites believe that Han Solo is the main character of the film from what I've read; Devin Faraci in particular has a pretty great history of being right about these things. Seeing how all the Millenium Falcon stuff is shooting right now, it seems like a big problem. They could easily work around Ford's injury and in fact his age by having him sit for the entire movie. His most iconic moment occurs while he's sitting and the prequels feature copious amounts of scenes where characters are sitting, so it should work out. Personally I'm looking forward to Jedi flipping and zooming all over the place while Han Solo sits on a chair, possibly a comfortable recliner.
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Jul 10, 2014 09:59
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feedmyleg posted:Most of the major film sites believe that Han Solo is the main character of the film from what I've read; Devin Faraci in particular has a pretty great history of being right about these things. Devin "Pacific Rim - a Star Wars for a new generation" Faraci has a good history on being right?
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Jul 10, 2014 11:59
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Timby posted:Right, I believe the current hot rumor is that the crux of the story is Han, Leia and some new characters going off in search of a missing Luke. This sounds terrible. The old people aren't actually the leads are they?
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Jul 10, 2014 16:15
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Arglebargle III posted:This sounds terrible. The old people aren't actually the leads are they? When Abrams fired Arndt and replaced him with Kasdan, it was said to be a top-to-bottom rewrite, focusing more on the original cast.
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Jul 10, 2014 16:22
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Han has got to die though. How can it not happen. I wonder if Ford can still do Han Solo.
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Jul 10, 2014 16:23
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Sentinel Red posted:Devin "Pacific Rim - a Star Wars for a new generation" Faraci has a good history on being right? Being a reliable rumour source / filter is not the same as having good taste in films or predicting how audiences will react. Maybe Han will have force powers and be awkwardly jammed into Yoda's little flying chair from the prequels.
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Jul 10, 2014 17:58
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Arglebargle III posted:This sounds terrible. The old people aren't actually the leads are they? As Timby said, the rumor when Abrams and Kasdan took over screenwriting was that they wanted to give the original leads bigger parts in Episode VII and then focus on the younger characters in Episodes VIII and IX. I emphasize the word "rumor" though. It could very well be true, but I think this thread has been awfully quick to treat every rumor as fact.
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Party Boat posted:Being a reliable rumour source / filter is not the same as having good taste in films or predicting how audiences will react. Harry_Knowles.txt
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Guys - I just read this from a reliable source and it's 100% true according to my uncle who lives in California.The Internet posted:When Abrams and Kasdan took over screenwriting was that they wanted to give the original leads bigger parts in Episode VII and then focus on the younger characters in Episodes VIII and IX.
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Jul 10, 2014 18:26
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Diabolik900 posted:As Timby said, the rumor when Abrams and Kasdan took over screenwriting was that they wanted to give the original leads bigger parts in Episode VII and then focus on the younger characters in Episodes VIII and IX. I emphasize the word "rumor" though. It could very well be true, but I think this thread has been awfully quick to treat every rumor as fact. It wouldn't really be that terrible though. The first half of A New Hope aside from the droids in space is basically the Obi Wan power hour anyway.
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Jul 10, 2014 18:27
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Counterpoint, Highlander: Endgame (ominously also released six years after the last theatrical movie in its franchise).
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Jul 10, 2014 18:53
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You know what film productions ran as smooth as can be? The prequels. I never assume a film is going to be bad if there's problems. It's like a band, sometimes the best albums are created during horrifyingly hosed up times. Wish You Were Here comes to mind. A screwy production can create Cleopatra or Waterworld sure, but it could also create Blade Runner, Titanic or Apocalypse Now just as easily. edit: speaking of disasters... http://sploid.gizmodo.com/this-is-t...dium=socialflow 
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Jul 10, 2014 18:56
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So glad they are using practical effects and costumes. Already better than the prequels.
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Jul 10, 2014 20:29
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kiimo posted:You know what film productions ran as smooth as can be? The prequels. Phantom Menace had a bunch of sets get trashed by a sandstorm if I recall correctly. A New Hope might have also had that happen though so who knows.
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Pops Mgee posted:Phantom Menace had a bunch of sets get trashed by a sandstorm if I recall correctly. A New Hope might have also had that happen though so who knows. So a sandstorm wrecked some hard drives
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Jul 10, 2014 23:00
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FishBulb posted:So a sandstorm wrecked some hard drives The Phantom Menace still used physical sets.
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Jul 10, 2014 23:15
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Phantom Menace is a poo poo movie but I give them credit for going back to Tunisia and building real sets.
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Jul 11, 2014 00:00
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Yeah. Phantom Menace has a lot of faults, but the sets and effects and character designs were never any of mine.
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Sheikh Djibouti posted:Character designs? wardrobes
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