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Holy poo poo. As a brazilian, this blows my mind. Same-sex marriage is a widespread thing in Brazil, and there's actually a disturbing undercurrent of religious/reactionary bile and even violence against it. And as others said, suddenly Germany is a strong, rising world power instead of a decrepit socilaist nightmare. Had the game gone the other way, the headline would be "Brazil, the world's largest catholic nation, crushes secular, feeble european comunists" The lengths they go to cast everything into a black/white mold it staggering.
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Sephyr posted:Holy poo poo. As a brazilian, this blows my mind. Same-sex marriage is a widespread thing in Brazil, and there's actually a disturbing undercurrent of religious/reactionary bile and even violence against it. And as others said, suddenly Germany is a strong, rising world power instead of a decrepit socilaist nightmare. What I'm kind of wondering is why there is so much emphasis on the outcome of a soccer game and what it means. Germany beating Brazil doesn't mean much more than "Germany managed to put together a better soccer team." There really isn't much you can read into it.
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Jul 9, 2014 23:42
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For some reason Conservapedia tries to frame sports games such that the winning team is always from a more conservative area, when they could just as easily say 'FIFA homofascists fixed the game to let atheist Germany win over the Catholic bastion of Argentina', or something like that.
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Jul 9, 2014 23:43
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What's weird is that Brazil is way more religious than Germany, too. It's kind of funny how that works. I bet Conservapedia decries the declining religiosity of the US on a regular basis, but it seems to me that God doesn't really give a poo poo about people being of faith so long as they keep those gays in their place.
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Jul 9, 2014 23:48
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letthereberock posted:And wait a second - "growing in strength"? I thought Germany was one of these countries being slowly ground down by Islamo-facism. I just can't keep up anymore. Conservapedia posted:Doublethink in George Orwell's dystopian novel 1984 is the practice of keeping two contradictory thoughts in one's own mind.
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Jul 9, 2014 23:52
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Every time I think their heads can't go any further up their asses you find something that proves me wrong. Taking bets on how long until the  reaches critical mass and kills us all.
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Jul 9, 2014 23:58
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Doesn't Conservapedia listen to Ann Coulter? Liking or caring about soccer at all is just plain un-American!
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Jul 10, 2014 00:03
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ToxicSlurpee posted:What I'm kind of wondering is why there is so much emphasis on the outcome of a soccer game and what it means. Germany beating Brazil doesn't mean much more than "Germany managed to put together a better soccer team." There really isn't much you can read into it. Conservapedia thinks that God will bless nations that are following his laws and curse nations who aren't. This is why things like the Olympics and how many medals each country gets, as well as who's winning the World Cup and even which states are winning US sports events becomes Conservapedia propaganda. Because if God is blessing nations that follow his laws, then it stands to reason their sports teams are better than the sports teams from cursed nations, who God will punish by having their team lose. This also ties in to "Atheists are fat and lazy" so therefore athletes from "bad" countries are worse than athletes from "good" countries which is part of the reason why sports events turn out the way they do. So when they say "Brazil has same-sex marriage and they lost, Germany doesn't and they won" this is "proof" that God is approving of Germany's not allowing gays to marry and shaking his finger at Brazil. And as someone said before, if Brazil had won and Germany had lost, then Conservapedia would spin it another way, probably based on numbers of religious people in those countries or something. The point is they have to find a way the winning team is "good" and the losing team is "bad" because they think it proves their theology. And if the unthinkable happened and Conservapedia absolutely could not find a way to portray the winners as good or the losers as evil, then they would either default to "God is testing the righteous and setting the winners up so that their inevitable defeat will be that much more crushing," or probably find one single player on the team that won that believes in God and say "Despite his country's atheism, the reason this team won is because God was blessing this one man and rewarding him for his faith."
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Jul 10, 2014 00:21
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Binowru posted:Doesn't Conservapedia listen to Ann Coulter? Liking or caring about soccer at all is just plain un-American! This. I'm surprised they even acknowledge that soccer is a real sport.
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Jul 10, 2014 02:13
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Remember, there is NO issues they won't turn on a dime if required. Bowe Bergdahl and the rights massive Putin-love have proved that beyond any doubt. Conservapedia and Freep would be for wealth expropriation and gulags if only liberals and 'undesirables' were targeted, and would not blink between the mental gear-shifting required.
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Jack Gladney posted:I'm afraid to ask, but what's wrong with Bradbury? Maybe nothing, I think I've confused him with another author, sorry. Though Bradbury could be pretty prickly. Also if you like Jack Williamson might want to skip Moon Children, god the 70's were skeevy. EDIT: Time travellers would do best to avoid bringing up television with Bradbury. Admittedly being a snob isn't nearly as bad as sexual harassment. Mind Loving Owl fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Jul 10, 2014 |
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Mind Loving Owl posted:Maybe nothing, I think I've confused him with another author, sorry. Though Bradbury could be pretty prickly. Also if you like Jack Williamson might want to skip Moon Children, god the 70's were skeevy. Were you maybe thinking of Piers Anthony?
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razorrozar posted:Were you maybe thinking of Piers Anthony? That's it! I'd say gently caress that guy but that's clearly what he wants, so celibate that guy!
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Jul 10, 2014 06:35
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Bradbury was one of the "political correctness" whiners.
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I love how the mocking Conservapedia thread has turned into pages upon pages of interrogating dead people for possibly deviating from absolutely Correct ideology. Ray Bradbury, one of the most widely read liberal voices in the history of human communication, is now unacceptable because he "whined about political correctness" according to some guy. The irony, it's you!
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meat sweats posted:I love how the mocking Conservapedia thread has turned into pages upon pages of interrogating dead people for possibly deviating from absolutely Correct ideology. Ray Bradbury, one of the most widely read liberal voices in the history of human communication, is now unacceptable because he "whined about political correctness" according to some guy. The irony, it's you! Bradbury was initially a mistake on that guy's part, Piers Anthony is legit a creepy POS, and the fact that Asimov harassed people doesn't much diminish that he was a tireless worker for the common good IMO. One post is hardly pages and pages.
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meat sweats posted:I love how the mocking Conservapedia thread has turned into pages upon pages of interrogating dead people for possibly deviating from absolutely Correct ideology. Ray Bradbury, one of the most widely read liberal voices in the history of human communication, is now unacceptable because he "whined about political correctness" according to some guy. The irony, it's you! This coming from the guy arguing that all public sector workers deserve no labour representation and should have collective bargaining banned because cops.
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Jul 10, 2014 08:25
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razorrozar posted:...and the fact that Asimov harassed people doesn't much diminish that he was a tireless worker for the common good IMO. drat it BioShock 2 every time I see the phrase 'common good' now I hear it said by the lady who played Agatha Christie on Doctor Who. And now I can't help but imagine Asimov as that big squid monster near the end of the game.
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Who, despite being in constant agony and completely insane, it is the karmically good thing to leave alive.
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Mind Loving Owl posted:drat it BioShock 2 every time I see the phrase 'common good' now I hear it said by the lady who played Agatha Christie on Doctor Who. No, the actual common good.  Fulchrum posted:Who, despite being in constant agony and completely insane, it is the karmically good thing to leave alive. I'm convinced that was an oversight. Unless what's his name, Kevin something from Irrational/2K, has actually said he's anti-euthanasia?
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Fulchrum posted:Who, despite being in constant agony and completely insane, it is the karmically good thing to leave alive. Didn't that thing want to die? I think I remember giving it whatever it was that it wanted.
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meat sweats posted:I love how the mocking Conservapedia thread has turned into pages upon pages of interrogating dead people for possibly deviating from absolutely Correct ideology. Ray Bradbury, one of the most widely read liberal voices in the history of human communication, is now unacceptable because he "whined about political correctness" according to some guy. The irony, it's you! Nobody said he was unacceptable. Ignoring the truth because it makes you uncomfortable and low tolerance for ambiguity are also familiar traits in our reading around here.
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Jack Gladney posted:Nobody said he was unacceptable. Ignoring the truth because it makes you uncomfortable and low tolerance for ambiguity are also familiar traits in our reading around here. There's also the fact that, if Asimov had been a staunch right-winger who broke lockstep over one tiny thing, they'd have disowned him forever. As a contrast: Vahakyla posted:It is not condoning the actions to understand that we can and should respect certain people for their good deeds, since there are exactly zero people here that could be combed thoroughly and nothing bad would come up.
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razorrozar posted:There's also the fact that, if Asimov had been a staunch right-winger who broke lockstep over one tiny thing, they'd have disowned him forever. http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Isaac_Asimov&oldid=37015 (the original version of their Asimov article; to be fair, it's since been significantly expanded) posted:
I'm pretty sure that this was by a troll. But I'm not certain.
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Surprised there's no mention of Flies, which is all about Old Testament style fear of one's deity. Fulchrum posted:Who, despite being in constant agony and completely insane, it is the karmically good thing to leave alive. I think the idea was that Alex the Great was essentially at that point essentially a different entity than Alexander Gilbert and so the latter's desires had no bearing on the former. This is of course stupid since Alex the Great is a murdering monster who if left alive escapes into the ocean to do God knows what. I imagine we're all a bit sick and tired of BioShock Infinite allusions here but I really would like to see a man who no longer believes in many engineering precepts build a flying city. EDIT: Upon looking it up I just realised that if you spare Alex the statue for him in the Karma According to Ken Levine section is Delta pulling a man out of a monster. Despite Alex the Great being changed not at all by his encounter with you. Mind Loving Owl fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Jul 10, 2014 |
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Mind Loving Owl posted:Surprised there's no mention of Flies, which is all about Old Testament style fear of one's deity. Now that I think of it even a story as innocuous as Bicentennial Man is probably anathema. It's all about a minority (the robot Andrew Martin) getting rights. I wonder what Conservapedia would make of Andrew Martin if the situation arose in real life.
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Hell I Robot would piss them off, one of the main characters is a career woman.
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quote:This is pathetic: the same-sex marriage nations of Argentina and Netherlands are unable to score a goal in 90 minutes, tying at 0-0 before Argentina then won on penalty kicks. Um, isn't 0-0 a common thing in soccer and wouldn't this be a sign of good defense? Wait aren't they drat far in the tournament? Is this one of those things where Conservapedia claims that the 2nd place is weak overratted liberal pansies compared to the conservative belly dance Oh gently caress it let's go to the exciting thing:  OBAMA ALIEN INVASION quote:The evidence is conclusive: Barack Hussein Obama deliberately set up an illegal alien invasion of America. [4] OBAMA SEX SLAVE ALIEN INVASION quote:The Obama administration uses a Clinton-era law, the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act of 2000. By that law, the Border Patrol may not deport any person, especially any minor traveling alone, who says he comes from a country other than Mexico. [...] Sometimes certain nefarious adults will bring minors in as sexual slaves. This law protects them, so they will give evidence against their kidnappers. but wait it's really an ORGANIZED EFFORT TO SUBVERT THAT LAW?!? quote:Those at the Central America end, give them scripts to recite so they can invoke the VTVPA (see above). They also tell them how to get Food Stamps. [...] They tell the aliens how to register to vote. OBAMA BIOLOGICAL ALIEN WARFARE INVASIONquote:They now face the introduction, or re-introduction, of such unwelcome visitors as: quote:What would Obama gain from a biological warfare attack against his own country? Making the people cry out to the government to save them. An excuse to expand greatly the power of the Centers for Disease Control. And more broadly, to justify taking full government control of all hospitals “to better deploy resources.”
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Mind Loving Owl posted:*BioShock 2's questionable morality* I also rationalized sparing Alex as Good via him being a fundamentally different person than Alex Gilbert. The one I had more trouble coping with was sparing the guy who kidnapped you and Eleanor, a loving child, to sell to an evil company to be experimented on and made into horrible abominations, with you getting lobotomized on top of it. Then when he was about to be caught by Eleanor's mother he escaped by flooding an entire sector of the city, killing at least a few hundred people. Sorry, but I don't think you can just forgive that poo poo. At least he's a normal, unspliced human who will likely be eviscerated by the first splicer he sees. Okay, BioShock talk over.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Um, isn't 0-0 a common thing in soccer and wouldn't this be a sign of good defense? Wait aren't they drat far in the tournament? Is this one of those things where Conservapedia claims that the 2nd place is weak overratted liberal pansies compared to the conservative belly dance OFS, you seem to be the primary source for CP quotes and stuff. Do you remember where the "*Fact" thing started? I've forgotten and it's bugging the poo poo out of me.
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razorrozar posted:OFS, you seem to be the primary source for CP quotes and stuff. Do you remember where the "*Fact" thing started? I've forgotten and it's bugging the poo poo out of me. Lord no that was a thing before my time. I just quote the In The News section because it's a constantly updating source of nonsense and conspiracy. quote:Christian winners vs. atheist losers. Who is going to win? [8]
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Why haven't the Cowboys been doing well if God bases winners on who is most holy?
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razorrozar posted:OFS, you seem to be the primary source for CP quotes and stuff. Do you remember where the "*Fact" thing started? I've forgotten and it's bugging the poo poo out of me. I think it was from the Conservapedia Parables page. Citation: "this really happened". http://www.conservapedia.com/Fact posted:
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Parahexavoctal posted:I think it was from the Conservapedia Parables page. Citation: "this really happened". Speaking of conservative parables, I still don't understand how this is a conservative parable. Conservapedia on the Fosbury Flop posted:The Flop Embracing radical change - the most conservative value.
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Not My Leg posted:Speaking of conservative parables, I still don't understand how this is a conservative parable. http://idahodems.org/news/idaho-olympian-dick-fosbury-races/ modig fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Jul 10, 2014 |
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Not My Leg posted:Speaking of conservative parables, I still don't understand how this is a conservative parable. He worked hard and got rewarded, liberals don't work hard. I listen to conservative radio a lot. Yesterday on Michael Medved a teacher called on and was confused why the kids he taught were liberals when they were obviously inherently conservatives. His explanation for what he meant by this was that kids understand that if you work hard you get rewarded and if you slack off you don't. People who live in the conservative echo chamber think that liberals are lazy do nothings who want someone else to do things for them. They cannot understand that when liberals push for welfare, it's not because that liberal wants the welfare for their self. They really think that hard work is a conservative idea.
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StealthArcher posted:This coming from the guy arguing that all public sector workers deserve no labour representation and should have collective bargaining banned because cops. Eh it is common here for people to shun the abuse of public workers, yet extend zero courtesy to cops who should always be fired right away, pensions stripped, vacations cut and all that with no trials and investigations.
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Vahakyla posted:Eh it is common here for people to shun the abuse of public workers, yet extend zero courtesy to cops who should always be fired right away, pensions stripped, vacations cut and all that with no trials and investigations. Why, it's almost as if those who are armed and authorized to employ deadly force in the service of public safety are held to a higher moral standard than, say, trash collectors!
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Parahexavoctal posted:I think it was from the Conservapedia Parables page. Citation: "this really happened". I seem to remember it having something to do with the biblical flood. "this actually happened" is the phrase that sticks in my mind. e. Rational Wiki has it in "The Desperate Smoker - Possible Moral" page. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conservapedia:Conservative_parables Seems to be gone now though. CATTASTIC fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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Vahakyla posted:Eh it is common here for people to shun the abuse of public workers, yet extend zero courtesy to cops who should always be fired right away, pensions stripped, vacations cut and all that with no trials and investigations. That guy thinks public unions are undemocratic.
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