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What are your guys opinions on tramplers in general? I often find myself just buying normal troops for nations like Hinnom or Berytos and only buying them for nations that can't expand easily without them like EA Arco or the various monkey nations.
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amuayse posted:What are your guys opinions on tramplers in general? I often find myself just buying normal troops for nations like Hinnom or Berytos and only buying them for nations that can't expand easily without them like EA Arco or the various monkey nations. I've found that they're very good against chaff - a trampler can make short work of skelespam. E: Actually small packs might be good as raiders. If you've got the gold and don't want to worry about thugs, sending out a pack of tramplers is a good way to smush PD. It's also a great way to defend against thugs - I had an EA TC PD commander take an enemy bane lord down to single digit HP. ChickenWing fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Jul 8, 2014 |
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Jul 8, 2014 13:39
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How do you play the undead soul gate LA people?
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Jul 9, 2014 00:49
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Fallorn posted:How do you play the undead soul gate LA people? Don't they're bad. If you absolutely must, take an N9 bless, dom 10, luck 3 and magic 3 and then whatever else you feel like and use Lemur Consuls as immortal thugs. This won't work and you will still lose and die in a real game against real people but it will not work better than anything else you can try. Oh and always take an awake pretender with at least D3 otherwise you can't do poo poo (literally Lemuria don't even start with a mage like Ermor do)
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Jul 9, 2014 00:57
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Fallorn posted:How do you play the undead soul gate LA people? Research burden of time and cast it. Congratulations, you have successfully trolled a game as Lemuria.
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Jul 9, 2014 01:12
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Fallorn posted:How do you play the undead soul gate LA people?
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Jul 9, 2014 01:14
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Speaking of lovely. do any of the nations teach you bad habits cause its how it works for them and only them kind of deal?
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Jul 9, 2014 01:20
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Playing in a 5+ person game. I picked EA Berytos. Are there any fun Pretender builds out there? If you have something, please PM me because one of the jerks I am playing against posts in this thread.
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Jul 9, 2014 01:35
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Lemuria is fine, but people will rush you down, so you probably won't win. Take an awake god with awful scales except for Luck 3 and Magic 3. Take an awake god with Death 3. Take a good bless for your thugs and summon immortal thugs. Realize your ghosts are not good but that's ok.EVIR Gibson posted:Playing in a 5+ person game. I picked EA Berytos. Are there any fun Pretender builds out there? If you have something, please PM me because one of the jerks I am playing against posts in this thread. There are no fun pretender builds anywhere.
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Jul 9, 2014 01:41
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EVIR Gibson posted:Playing in a 5+ person game. I picked EA Berytos. Are there any fun Pretender builds out there? If you have something, please PM me because one of the jerks I am playing against posts in this thread.
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Jul 9, 2014 02:19
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Fallorn posted:How do you play the undead soul gate LA people? I like to go the full life-sucking route: Death 3 and drain 3 scales, Death 10 pretender. In my test game even provinces with 10000+ people in it ended up dead and empty in no time flat.  Now I wish I was allowed to play megadeath-Lemuria in MP, since trying to win with death only looks like a challenge.
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Jul 9, 2014 11:44
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Libluini posted:I like to go the full life-sucking route: Death 3 and drain 3 scales, Death 10 pretender. Lemuria's ghost spawn is affected by magic scales; specifically the good fear-having ghosts. Their mages are also super expensive so drain 3 is a terrible idea.
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Jul 9, 2014 12:31
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The downside to magic 3 is loving up the MR on your undead making banish hurt even more.
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Jul 9, 2014 13:18
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Libluini posted:I like to go the full life-sucking route: Death 3 and drain 3 scales, Death 10 pretender. lemuria has a bunch of astral and also minor water and air. also im in my like fifth or sixth game as lemuria you can be the change you want in the world. also also dom10 death 10 is easy to fit in even without going drain
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Jul 9, 2014 13:58
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Neruz posted:Lemuria's ghost spawn is affected by magic scales; specifically the good fear-having ghosts. Their mages are also super expensive so drain 3 is a terrible idea. Which means it's the best idea I ever had.  Less spawn to juggle around, and an additional handicap for free. Sweet!
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So could someone explain how Ritual of Returning works when being horror-attacked (with Astral Corruption up, if that's relevant) because it just doesn't seem to work in this case. I've tried mages not being in the capital (obviously), and I've tried mages not being in the same province as the one they cast it in, but neither works. Am I missing something?
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FnF posted:So could someone explain how Ritual of Returning works when being horror-attacked (with Astral Corruption up, if that's relevant) because it just doesn't seem to work in this case. I've tried mages not being in the capital (obviously), and I've tried mages not being in the same province as the one they cast it in, but neither works. Am I missing something? You mean for horror attacks? It will return you upon taking damage. However, you do have to actually survive the attack so if it's some weakling babby mage you need to also crystal heart/elixir of life him since your average horror will one shot a 10hp mage most of the time.
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Nuclearmonkee posted:You mean for horror attacks? It will return you upon taking damage. However, you do have to actually survive the attack so if it's some weakling babby mage you need to also crystal heart/elixir of life him since your average horror will one shot a 10hp mage most of the time. So if I understand you, you mean that if the mage can survive being one-shotted, it'll work?
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FnF posted:So if I understand you, you mean that if the mage can survive being one-shotted, it'll work? That is correct. Thus mages with 2 forms are ideal.
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Jul 9, 2014 19:24
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Well I guess that explains it then. Thanks for clearing that up!
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Jul 9, 2014 19:43
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Stevefin posted:Speaking of lovely. do any of the nations teach you bad habits cause its how it works for them and only them kind of deal? Arguably Middle Era Ermor, I guess, because they have somewhat-viable troops (after buffing, at least, and against most but not all nations) that autospawn, but it kills your population so your gold income is not so much curtailed as curfuckingruined, except for events, meaning you can utterly trash your scales to get a very good awake pretender together. On the other hand, you're still going to be learning how different types and trees of magic affect the undead and living differently, and you do still need to do some recruitment and fort/lab/temple construction.
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Jul 9, 2014 20:01
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Water nations give bad habits. They allow you to play passively which usually results in a loss in any MP environment.
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For the purpose of annoying griefing, underwater nations are pretty fun.
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Jul 9, 2014 23:43
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EVIR Gibson posted:Playing in a 5+ person game. I picked EA Berytos. Are there any fun Pretender builds out there? If you have something, please PM me because one of the jerks I am playing against posts in this thread. I find it's impossible not to have fun with an N9 dom9 green dragon.
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jBrereton posted:Not really? Okay I just wanted to make sure a nation was not giving me bad habits I did try Middle Era Ermor. however it went down hill very quickly as one AI just had nothing but priests and a battle was lost before any combat could happen on my side
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TheDemon posted:I find it's impossible not to have fun with an N9 dom9 green dragon. If you are not the owner of that dragon it's very unfun. 
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Jul 10, 2014 04:19
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Wait I thought green dragons were terrible and dragon gas was useless HAVE I BEEN LIED TO?
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Jul 10, 2014 04:59
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Neruz posted:Wait I thought green dragons were terrible and dragon gas was useless HAVE I BEEN LIED TO? Green dragons can cast sleep cloud, which gets pretty dumb in a hurry.
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Jul 10, 2014 05:08
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Neruz posted:Wait I thought green dragons were terrible and dragon gas was useless HAVE I BEEN LIED TO? Green Dragons and Blue Dragons have the best spells, combat and ritual. You must decide for yourself which better fits your nation. Green: sleep cloud, regeneration, panic, mother oak, gift of health Blue: quickness, liquid body, W evos (v good dsmage), Vengeful Water,
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Yeah green dragon gets pasted early by skeles but is also a very safe battlecaster for actual army fights. Spamming sleep cloud with an N9 mage wrecks most sacred rushes or early armies with absolutely no risk and makes you really dangerous really fast.
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Green Dragon gets a lot of hate but functions perfectly well for the purpose of expansion like the others. His breath may not be as killy but the poison will generate morale checks all over the place and lead to routes all the same. If you want an awake SC with strong N or N9 bless he's not a bad choice.
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Doesn't W have so-so evocations until it hits Falling frost? Slime is nice on W1 casters, but nothing really good for W9 casters.
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What the hell is with all these sudden UI improvements; have the devs decided that it's actually a good idea if the players understand how the game works?
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Neruz posted:What the hell is with all these sudden UI improvements; have the devs decided that it's actually a good idea if the players understand how the game works? By pricing the game effectively and putting it on steam they are ACTUALLY MAKING SOME MONEY. This changes priorities a bit i hear
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Neruz posted:What the hell is with all these sudden UI improvements; have the devs decided that it's actually a good idea if the players understand how the game works? The game has a looong way to come to have a decent UI, this part "Coast & cave income bonus for forts printed" is barely a drop in the ocean.
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Neruz posted:What the hell is with all these sudden UI improvements; have the devs decided that it's actually a good idea if the players understand how the game works?
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jBrereton posted:Yeah they asked what we wanted so stuff like Communion membership and ambidexterity is now actually really clear. e: nice! immolationsex fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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immolationsex posted:Wait what? Did they visit the something awful dot com forums and read my bitching about how we still need to whip out Excel to calculate communion fatigue, taking into account encumbrance, communion size, slave and master paths, battle and item buffs etc? When a mage casts a communion spell they now get a little buff that says whether they are a Master or a Slave, how much the communion is boosting each path and how many slaves are in the communion.
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So fun fact for everyone today that I discovered that I could not find mention of ANYWHERE. If you have the Perpetual Storm global up (because I had to have a way to ground Arco's flying circus of 200 wind riders), then Seeking Arrows can be blow off course and fail to hit anything. 
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