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Now Boehner is suing Obama because he's some how not enforcing the ACA. Does he not see the irony of saying the President isn't enforcing evil Obamacare?
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James The 1st posted:Now Boehner is suing Obama because he's some how not enforcing the ACA. Does he not see the irony of saying the President isn't enforcing evil Obamacare? The specifics don't matter, this will generate headlines stating "Boehner suing over Obamacare" which is all he wants out of this.
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Jul 11, 2014 00:39
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Can the House actually appropriate the money to pay lawyers to sue the President without the consent of the Senate?
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Jul 11, 2014 00:46
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Dystram posted:No because it's only a crisis because conservatives started calling it as such. This is from a couple of pages ago, but it is a crisis, even though Obama has a D next to his name. 50,000 kids coming over the border is a problem for social services and the immigration system, period. If I had my way we would just give them all refugee status, but obviously Obama (and Clinton...) have to be Tough On Immigration so they'll all be sent back to be murdered in the street.
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We should send them all on a boat to Australia if you ask me.
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KIM JONG TRILL posted:We should send them all on a boat to Australia if you ask me. Or put them all in a camp on Guam.
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James The 1st posted:Now Boehner is suing Obama because he's some how not enforcing the ACA. Does he not see the irony of saying the President isn't enforcing evil Obamacare? This is actually pretty good, hopefully they can find someone with standing.
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Badger of Basra posted:This is from a couple of pages ago, but it is a crisis, even though Obama has a D next to his name. 50,000 kids coming over the border is a problem for social services and the immigration system, period. If I had my way we would just give them all refugee status, but obviously Obama (and Clinton...) have to be Tough On Immigration so they'll all be sent back to be murdered in the street. It's not a crisis. It's been happening for a while. No one gave a poo poo until the right wingers brought it up and called it a "crisis." What's Obama showing up going to do? Nothing. It's just another point of attack for conservatives.
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The "Obama MUST GO TO THE BORDER" is just another in a long string of right wing attempts to bring him "to heel" by making him do a thing, dating all the way back to the 2008 campaign with McCain trying to make him attend a schedule of debates etc. devised by McCain, trying to get him to suspend his campaign etc., and there have been intermittent efforts by others in this regard. poo poo won't stop until 2016.
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Zwabu posted:poo poo won't stop until 2016.  2017, at least.
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:This is actually pretty good, hopefully they can find someone with standing. I disagree 
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:This is actually pretty good, hopefully they can find someone with standing. How is it good, do you legitimately believe he overstepped his bounds by giving an agency he was at the top of the chain of an order?
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Jul 11, 2014 01:53
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In other immigration news NYC will start issuing municipal IDs to all residents http://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/345-14/mayor-de-blasio-signs-legislation-create-municipal-id-card#/0 quote:NEW YORK—Today, Mayor Bill de Blasio signed legislation to create a municipal ID card for all New York City residents. The raging and gnashing of teeth has already begun.
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:This is actually pretty good, hopefully they can find someone with standing. You realize half the suit is "no but really, we don't need anyone with standing, trust us" right?
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Tatum Girlparts posted:How is it good, do you legitimately believe he overstepped his bounds by giving an agency he was at the top of the chain of an order? The core structure of the ACA is that everybody has insurance. Everybody is required to have insurance or pay a
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Jul 11, 2014 01:59
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And so it begins...... (again)
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ThirdPartyView posted:
Nahh, November 9'th he's going to start hot boxing the oval office and then be all "states rights mother fuckers".
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Edmund Lava posted:In other immigration news NYC will start issuing municipal IDs to all residents Edit: I should mention it's not just the right that won't like this. The New York Civil Liberties Union has some problems with it, mainly on the law enforcement side of things. get that OUT of my face fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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Joementum posted:And so it begins...... (again) Just wait til we get this movement up to 88 mph...
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Y-Hat posted:With the exception of his appointment of Bill Bratton as NYPD chief (you might remember him as holding the same position under Giuliani and instituting crackdowns on a different petty crime every couple of weeks- a practice he's doing again), I loving love Bill de Blasio. He's done some good things like institute 5 days of sick leave for everyone living and working in NYC, and he'll push for expanded living wage laws with a similarly progressive City Council. Also there's stuff like this that makes Fox News types poo poo blood. Man, if they thought they hated Bloomberg.... He also caved on the charter schools, let LICH close, kept the schools open during the blizzard against better advice, and eats pizza with a fork. I've been pretty disappointed with him so far but if he gets this and universal pre-K up I'll defend him to the end.
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Edmund Lava posted:He also caved on the charter schools, let LICH close, kept the schools open during the blizzard against better advice, and eats pizza with a fork. History's greatest monster.
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Dude, sometimes a man just does not want to get grease all over his hands.
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Spatula City posted:Dude, sometimes a man just does not want to get grease all over his hands. Obviously you don't live in NYC.
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Don't forget endorsing "Democratic" senators Jeff Klein and Tony Avella for renomination.
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DynamicSloth posted:Can the House actually appropriate the money to pay lawyers to sue the President without the consent of the Senate? If they can afford to spend thousands of dollars to have the House read the Constitution aloud, they can sue the President.
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So I'm starting to look into the possibility of volunteering for my local branch of the democratic party since having the RNC coming in two years has kind of lit a fire underneath me. Any suggestions as to which organization I should be helping out, exactly? What would that volunteer work entail, since I've never done that sort of thing before? Would I be going door to door with flyers, manning a call center, organizing files, what? Also, Ohio goons, what's the consensus on Ed Fitzgerald? I'm also considering volunteering on his campaign since for the most part he seems like a good egg. Is there any massive, damning part of his history that I've missed or anything?
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haveblue posted:Obviously you don't live in NYC. I've lived on the East Coast, West Coast, and Midwest and I've never lived in an area where people eat pizza with a fork. I think it's just a scattering of freaks and perverts.
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Goddamnit, don't bring foodchat back. Those always ruined the earlier threads, also no one cares how you eat pizza.
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Boom goes the dynamite http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/10/florida-redistricting-gop_n_5576319.html quote:The Florida Legislature illegally redrew boundaries defining congressional districts to benefit the Republican Party, a circuit court judge ruled Thursday. So the question is whether this ruling can be used in other states.
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Or rather keep it quarantined in the chat thread. That's why we have it. e: quote:There is no legal duty on the part of the Legislature to preserve these records,... That's kind of surprising. I thought records retention requirements, especially with government, was a pretty universal thing. ReidRansom fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Boom goes the dynamite
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InequalityGodzilla posted:So I'm starting to look into the possibility of volunteering for my local branch of the democratic party since having the RNC coming in two years has kind of lit a fire underneath me. Any suggestions as to which organization I should be helping out, exactly? What would that volunteer work entail, since I've never done that sort of thing before? Would I be going door to door with flyers, manning a call center, organizing files, what? Do you think your RNC will be as fun as our RNC was here in Minnesota? If not, you could always help make it that way. 
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JT Jag posted:It's a circuit court ruling, so I'm not sure if it's applicable on a national scale. The legislature seems intent to appeal the ruling though, and if the ruling is confirmed at a higher court, then we might have something to talk about. state circuit, not federal circuit
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:state circuit, not federal circuit
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JT Jag posted:That's what I meant. But they're appealing, possibly to a federal court, which might make the ruling nationally relevant. Florida goes circuit->district->supreme this ain't poo poo
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Florida specifically prohibits favoring a political party with the redistricting. I was under the impression that the states that were blatant about it did not have these provisions. Is this sort of law / constitutional clause common? No plan or individual district may be drawn with the intent to favor or disfavor a political party or incumbent. [Fla. Const. art. III, §§ 20(a), 21(a)]
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Devor posted:Florida specifically prohibits favoring a political party with the redistricting. I was under the impression that the states that were blatant about it did not have these provisions. Is this sort of law / constitutional clause common? Phew, it just affects Florida. Honestly any court cases that could make it up the chain to SCOTUS are pretty dangerous these days.
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Cheekio posted:Phew, it just affects Florida. Honestly any court cases that could make it up the chain to SCOTUS are pretty dangerous these days. Yeah, if this went up to SCOTUS they'd probably rule that all redistricting is REQUIRED to favor specific incumbents.
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Devor posted:Florida specifically prohibits favoring a political party with the redistricting. I was under the impression that the states that were blatant about it did not have these provisions. Is this sort of law / constitutional clause common? Yeah, this lawsuit is all thanks to a state constitutional amendment that was passed a few years ago. It'll only go as far as Florida, but that in itself is still pretty significant
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Devor posted:No plan or individual district may be drawn with the intent to favor or disfavor a political party or incumbent. [Fla. Const. art. III, §§ 20(a), 21(a)] Making majority-minority districts legal kind of opened a Pandora's Box.
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