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Is Bendis being taken off the x books or something? Is there a reason he's wrapping up all these plot points with dumb as hell poo poo? Does he just not care and is phoning it in while collecting a paycheck?
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Leper Residue posted:Is Bendis being taken off the x books or something? Is there a reason he's wrapping up all these plot points with dumb as hell poo poo? Does he just not care and is phoning it in while collecting a paycheck? I think they are getting close to ending the Schism, and going to set up a new status quo.
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Jul 9, 2014 21:06
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Leper Residue posted:Is Bendis being taken off the x books or something? Is there a reason he's wrapping up all these plot points with dumb as hell poo poo? Does he just not care and is phoning it in while collecting a paycheck? Powers got picked up as a series so a little of column A and a little of column B. Honestly his work with the X-Men that I read came of as kinda "Eh, Whatever" to me like he thought it'd be fun and invigorating until he actually started writing and it turned out he just wasn't feeling it.
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Jul 9, 2014 21:52
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I enjoyed X-Force again. I don't know who the giant face dude is though. The evil dude talking to domino--who is he?
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Jul 9, 2014 23:15
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Logan's death actually makes sense as an end of Schism. I'd expect a scene where he lays dieing and tells Scott "go back home, go back to the X mansion" and a tearful Scott agrees because he realizes that Logan is his best friend, and losing his love, his mentor and best friend is too much. Then they share a tender kiss while Logan dies.
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Jul 10, 2014 01:49
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Mahasamatman posted:I enjoyed X-Force again. I don't know who the giant face dude is though. The evil dude talking to domino--who is he? I assumed it was Volga in a new body. Borrowing heavily from Zola. So... that next cover of ANXM of Laura kissing Angel. Think that means any more than the one of her kissing Scott (which meant almost nothing). As the world's biggest fan of the (Academy X) New X-Men, Bendis' lovely handle on Laura is possibly the thing I like least about his X-books. Or pretty much every other character. I like how he writes the Cuckoos most of the time, I guess. Also, twistedmentat, I read all of your posts as Cheryl/Carol. So keep posting weird poo poo.
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Jul 10, 2014 02:50
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twistedmentat posted:Logan's death actually makes sense as an end of Schism. "There must always be a Wolverine, bub." Logan dies and Scott starts being Wolverine, walking around on his knees with knives attached to his hands and talking in the worst Canadian accent.
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Jul 10, 2014 03:33
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Diet Poison posted:I assumed it was Volga in a new body. Borrowing heavily from Zola. I think Bendis probably had big plans for the Laura/Cyclops love connection and losing Scott messed it up. So Angel will stand in for that. Question, how long has it been since he's brought up the Hank/Jean thing?
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Jul 10, 2014 04:01
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Rhyno posted:I think Bendis probably had big plans for the Laura/Cyclops love connection and losing Scott messed it up. Aw I'm really sorry to hear that, because I think you're right. Having old Cyclops and Wolverine watch in horror as Young Cyclops and Rule 63 Wolverine hook up is a deliciously warped idea I wanted to see a hell of a lot more of.
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Jul 10, 2014 04:07
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mind the walrus posted:Aw I'm really sorry to hear that, because I think you're right. Having old Cyclops and Wolverine watch in horror as Young Cyclops and Rule 63 Wolverine hook up is a deliciously warped idea I wanted to see a hell of a lot more of. So did I! Good god was that a great idea! I almost want to hate Greg Rucka for ruining it!
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Jul 10, 2014 04:09
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mind the walrus posted:Aw I'm really sorry to hear that, because I think you're right. Having old Cyclops and Wolverine watch in horror as Young Cyclops and Rule 63 Wolverine hook up is a deliciously warped idea I wanted to see a hell of a lot more of. Bendis' plot devices are always so stupid. I need to write a note? Really? And who is delivering this note? Who isn't reading it before it goes out the door? Yeah ok. On the other hand, is that my motorcycle?
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Jul 10, 2014 04:24
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Rhyno posted:I think Bendis probably had big plans for the Laura/Cyclops love connection and losing Scott messed it up. So Angel will stand in for that. Question, how long has it been since he's brought up the Hank/Jean thing? As Marvel's Top Dog, I figure he had to make the call to send Young Cyclops off, or at the very least, had veto power. mind the walrus posted:Having old Cyclops and Wolverine watch in horror as Young Cyclops and Rule 63 Wolverine hook up is a deliciously warped idea I wanted to see a hell of a lot more of. I legit didn't realize how much I NEEDED this to have happened until now. 
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Jul 10, 2014 04:31
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Codependent Poster posted:"There must always be a Wolverine, bub." No, he already has a backup available, he just has to ask Laura to glue sideburns to her face.
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Jul 10, 2014 05:10
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Hinoarashi posted:As Marvel's Top Dog, I figure he had to make the call to send Young Cyclops off, or at the very least, had veto power. Yeah, but maybe he heard the pitch and begrudgingly decided it was good and that he could give up Young Scott. So I guess I can't really blame him for that. Young Scott vs Old Scott is my favourite of the interactions but the Cyclops solo is pretty damned good.
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Jul 10, 2014 05:10
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So how was Battle of the Atom?
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Jul 10, 2014 05:45
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Just finished Jason Aaron's run on Wolverine and the X-Men. What a great run. It had a couple dips, but on the whole will probably end up being one I revisit in the future. And those last three issues were some of the most touching comics I've ever read. I teared up more than once. Benny the Snake posted:So how was Battle of the Atom? I liked it. This thread hates it. But this thread hates everything with the X-Men in it. I'm just messin,! VVVVVVVVVVVVVV Also I really like what Bendis has done with All New X-Men. Have read much Uncanny yet though Unmature fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Jul 10, 2014 |
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Jul 10, 2014 06:55
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Just because we have different tastes doesn't mean we have to be dramatic v vI definitely like some of the X-Men stuff still, just nothing with Bendis.
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Jul 10, 2014 07:12
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Benny the Snake posted:So how was Battle of the Atom? I thought it was stupid but its Bendis's X-men level stupid that some people are into. Then again I like Nightcrawler.
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Jul 10, 2014 14:50
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Benny the Snake posted:So how was Battle of the Atom? On the whole, I thought it was unnecessary and didn't really go anywhere; the entire plot could have been resolved in two issues of ANX and certainly wasn't worthy of being an "event". Most of the conflict in every issue boils down to someone arguing to send the young X-men home and somebody else getting mad and insisting they stay. Some of the character beats were fun and the designs of the future X-men were great, though. I wouldn't buy it as a trade, but if it's up on Unlimited, you might as well read it.
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Jul 10, 2014 17:57
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It just felt like it put the X-Men on hold for the summer, and could have been finished in half as many issues. Probably isn't too bad if you read it at your own pace. Definitely required reading if you're gonna continue with Bendis' X-Men books.
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Jul 10, 2014 18:07
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Boy, Jason Latour's Wolverine and the X-Men is nowhere NEAR as good as Jason Aaron's was. One issue in and I want to put it down. Does it get better? I just found the whole first issue unfocused and boring. It jumped around to try and get us acquainted with the characters, but did the opposite for me since there isn't a major time skip or anything and I already know where these characters are. And the stuff he was jumping between just wasn't that interesting. Compare it to the first issue of Aaron's run that's all about the school's first day and their evaluation. Also his dialogue is very Slott-y with its random references that add nothing and shouldn't count as a joke. Blech.
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Jul 10, 2014 19:02
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I actually like the new WATXM since it is focusing more on the kids. It probably reads a bit better in trade but I really don't have any complaints. Especially since Aaron's WATXM had more than a few stories that just did not appeal to me. The loving crossovers didn't help but even poo poo like the circus bored me.
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Jul 10, 2014 19:27
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Unmature posted:Boy, Jason Latour's Wolverine and the X-Men is nowhere NEAR as good as Jason Aaron's was. One issue in and I want to put it down. Does it get better? I love how the first issue of a new writer on a title has to be amazing and they have all the characters voices down.
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Jul 10, 2014 19:29
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Not really. I dropped it after a couple issues.
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Jul 10, 2014 19:30
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notthegoatseguy posted:I actually like the new WATXM since it is focusing more on the kids. It probably reads a bit better in trade but I really don't have any complaints. Especially since Aaron's WATXM had more than a few stories that just did not appeal to me. The loving crossovers didn't help but even poo poo like the circus bored me. Yeah I can't remember a series with such a wide berth between the good and bad stories. The good stories are GREAT, but the corssovers are boring and yeah that circus issue *woof*. I did enjoy that story more than most because it's a big callback to an early Claremont X-Men story and I'd just read that like a week before. So I appreciated the callback, but it drags on waaay too long. bobkatt013 posted:I love how the first issue of a new writer on a title has to be amazing and they have all the characters voices down. Aaron's did. 
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Jul 10, 2014 19:35
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Unmature posted:Aaron's did. The same Aaron that wrote an X-men crossover and was the writer for Wolverine?
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Jul 10, 2014 19:36
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bobkatt013 posted:The same Aaron that wrote an X-men crossover and was the writer for Wolverine? You know what, you're right. This new guy shouldn't be writing this book. I'm glad we agree.
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Jul 10, 2014 19:40
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bobkatt013 posted:The same Aaron that wrote an X-men crossover and was the writer for Wolverine? I don't see your point. I remember Aaron's Wolverine work being generally well received. I think he lost a bit of steam after the Hell arc of the Wolverine re-launch but at least he didn't sink into self-parody like Bendis did in year 4-6 of Avengers.
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Jul 10, 2014 19:43
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notthegoatseguy posted:I don't see your point. I remember Aaron's Wolverine work being generally well received. I think he lost a bit of steam after the Hell arc of the Wolverine re-launch but at least he didn't sink into self-parody like Bendis did in year 4-6 of Avengers. That he had experience with the characters. That you can not compare Wolverine and the X-men volume 1 and volume 2 since one person had lots of experience with the characters and the other did not.
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Jul 10, 2014 19:52
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I flipped thru the latest issue of All-New X-Men and boy, did I dislike it. I sure hope Bendis is better at Spider-Man than X-Men, personally. What's the best X-title that's not Bendis written right now?
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Jul 10, 2014 23:01
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Benny the Snake posted:I sure hope Bendis is better at Spider-Man than X-Men, personally. He is. Why aren't you reading Ultimate Spider-Man? The X-Men line is in really bad shape right now if you don't like Bendis. Cyclops' solo title is fantastic, but it's not so much an X-Men book as it is a "Cyclops & Corsair's Father-Son Bonding Vacation IN SPACE" book. I've heard Amazing X-Men is good, but I haven't read it personally, and the new X-Force is really good but it's approaching Hickman levels of layering up mysteries only to not resolve them for ages, so it's admittedly not for everyone. Adjectiveless was dire under Wood and it's going to be worse under Guggenheim. Honestly, though, if you don't like Bendis avoid the X-Books until he's off them because he's gonna drag them all into his dumb status quos at some point.
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Benny the Snake posted:I flipped thru the latest issue of All-New X-Men and boy, did I dislike it. I sure hope Bendis is better at Spider-Man than X-Men, personally. What's the best X-title that's not Bendis written right now? X-Force is probably the best X-book running right now. It's pretty stylistically similar to his run on X-Men Legacy (which you should read if you've haven't already).
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Jul 11, 2014 00:01
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Benny the Snake posted:I flipped thru the latest issue of All-New X-Men and boy, did I dislike it. I sure hope Bendis is better at Spider-Man than X-Men, personally. What's the best X-title that's not Bendis written right now? Bendis is way way better on Ultimate Spider-Man. It's still one of my favorite comics. Amazing is kind of cool. It's not amazing but I'm enjoying it. Wolverine and the X-Men seems like a like it or hate it. I didn't enjoy it at first but I find myself enjoying each issue more and more. Haven't read X-force yet may have to pick that up.
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Jul 11, 2014 00:56
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Unmature posted:You know what, you're right. This new guy shouldn't be writing this book. I'm glad we agree. Has he done some minis with wolverine/the kids? Honestly that always helps a new writer getting a series to have a Mini or two to prep and find his voice for the characters before basically throwing them into the deep end of the wolf pit.
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Jul 11, 2014 01:12
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I'm just going to sit here and feel smug about being on the Spurrier X-Force bandwagon from day one. Kind of want to see what he'd do with free reign over the whole X line.
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Jul 11, 2014 02:22
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Spiderdrake posted:Bendis' plot devices are always so stupid. I need to write a note? Really? And who is delivering this note? Who isn't reading it before it goes out the door? Yeah ok. Just by writing it he guaranteed it makes it because it already did. Time travel!
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Jul 11, 2014 05:09
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I like that Bendis told us none of these future kids death's will matter because they can just reset and try again. Because of this we also now know that in order for this to end they'll need to go forward in time and stop the team before they have their plan in motion.
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Jul 11, 2014 11:39
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Like X-Men: Legacy was, X-Force is the best X-book that you're all not reading.
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Jul 11, 2014 11:55
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irlZaphod posted:Like X-Men: Legacy was, X-Force is the best X-book that you're all not reading. And yes, more people should get into it. It is good. Spurrier is legitimately talented at taking his little corner of X-verse and doing something truly weird but also truly X-men.
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Aphrodite posted:Just by writing it he guaranteed it makes it because it already did. Time travel! Um, no? When they show him receiving the note in the future, that implies that they'll have to go back in time, lose, write that note, and have that note somehow reach them. It is "guaranteed it makes it" because we are seeing it "make it." Just seeing him write the note in the past does not have the same guaranteed time-travel logic to it - anything could happen between the present/past and the future. And even with the future scene of them again receiving the note, the onus is still on the writer of this fictional work to show how this closed loop works and how, in the past, the note does indeed make it - or at least leave it ambiguous enough that we think "ok, sometime in this span of 50 years or whatever, a note is somehow produced and set up for delivery." Bendis is so ham-handed about it that he opts for the silly scene of Xavier Jr. asking his maximum security watchers for paper for this note, instead of taking advantage of the vast ambiguity offered by the span of years between "the present" and the future that Xavier Jr. travels from (i.e., there could be a power-outage and a break-out at some point further down the line, a different supervillain could intervene, etc.). Nope, he's gotta have his cutesy moment where he just asks for paper to write a note, and SHIELD security just lets him both write it and then either gets it out into the world for him or doesn't question where that paper goes if he tries to hide it.
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