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Basically if there's one group in this conflict that deserves intensified support with few caveats, it's the Kurds. Until I see evidence that they're doing massacres ( ), I'll say the Peshmerga are probably the best chance for peace the region has.
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Kurtofan posted:I'm reading something about ISIS turning against some of their Baathist allies, are there any more details about this?
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Jul 11, 2014 04:59
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Volkerball posted:What? They've killed dozens of ISIS fighters in Kobane, and they're being assaulted by tanks and humvees. Kurds have been screaming about all this stuff at the top of their lungs. The only ones reporting it are Kurdish media though. I just would have thought the Peshmerga would have rolled into town by now, or at least extra guns and such. Granted, the Peshmerga themselves are stretched thin as it is.
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Jul 11, 2014 05:50
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Jul 11, 2014 07:00
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If ISIS declares war on FIFA I'm genuinely unsure which side I'd support.
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Jul 11, 2014 07:02
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How are u posted:If ISIS declares war on FIFA I'm genuinely unsure which side I'd support. They'd have plenty of sympathy among the migrant laborers, that's for sure. Dhimmitude might not seem so bad compared to what they have to deal with.
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Jul 11, 2014 07:05
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How are u posted:If ISIS declares war on FIFA I'm genuinely unsure which side I'd support. Well IS has a clearer policy on bribes...
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Jul 11, 2014 07:12
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FIFA is almost definitely going to re-bid the 2022 World Cup at some point for many, many reasons, this not being one of them. Now they get to claim they scared the decadent Westerners away when it happens though. More stuff to recruit on.
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Jul 11, 2014 07:13
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JT Jag posted:FIFA is almost definitely going to re-bid the 2022 World Cup at some point for many, many reasons, this not being one of them. Now they get to claim they scared the decadent Westerners away when it happens though. More stuff to recruit on. I'm literally okay with this if it means Qatar doesn't get to host the world cup in The SlaveDome.
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Jul 11, 2014 07:34
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illrepute posted:I'm literally okay with this if it means Qatar doesn't get to host the world cup in The SlaveDome.
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Jul 11, 2014 07:36
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illrepute posted:I'm literally okay with this if it means Qatar doesn't get to host the world cup in The SlaveDome. Is that the one that looks like a great big hoo-hah?
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Jul 11, 2014 07:37
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Bip Roberts posted:Is that the one that looks like a great big hoo-hah? Confirm. Oh also I'm not sure, did this thread have any discussion over the recent brouhaha in Bahrain? A U.S. Diplomat got expelled for meeting the leader of the Shi'ite opposition, and now that opposition leader has been arrested. The U.S. is condemning the government for 'undermining dialogue'.
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Jul 11, 2014 07:42
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Paul MaudDib posted:You should report a nuclear scientist with sympathies towards an active terrorist group anyway, pretty much. Especially one that's too radical for Al Qaeda. Nuclear scientists idly musing about how awesome and righteous ISIS is way over the line in my book, I'd definitely find that creepy as hell. What the gently caress. I though dirty bombs were fake and aren't actually effective?
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Jul 11, 2014 07:51
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The most dangerous thing about any kind of improvised explosive device isn't actually the blast itself (debatable if you're the one caught in the explosion), but the fear it causes. In the case of a dirty bomb, it's the fear of the nuclear radiation that would justify its usage, not the actual effects which I doubt would be anything at all compared to what we did to Falluja, let alone Hiroshima.
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Jul 11, 2014 08:00
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How are u posted:If ISIS declares war on FIFA I'm genuinely unsure which side I'd support. Well, one side is lead by a wealthy megalomaniac with significant support in the Middle East, and the other side is ISIS.
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This is from a long time ago, but I'm not sure if it was posted. The UN did a report on the extent of human rights violations against children covering the beginning of 2011 to the end of 2013. It's pretty loving terrible. Here's the full report if you want to see some of the more detailed stories with examples and dates and such. http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N13/627/07/PDF/N1362707.pdf?OpenElement But if not, here's a summary article. http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=47077#.U7-xwfnROmf quote:Detailing the detention of children as young as 11 years old for alleged association with armed groups by Government forces in large-scale arrest campaigns, the reports says they were ill-treated and tortured to extract confessions or humiliate them or pressure a relative to surrender or confess. So they basically get the full branch 215 treatment as well. There's some other stuff about the opposition in there, but it seems that before the timeframe when ISIS became pronounced, the regime was far and away the worst offender. Now it's just the worst offender.
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Jul 11, 2014 10:48
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After watching that video I know we're all in a "gently caress ISIS" frame of mind, but it's useful to remember the officers and generals they were rounding up at least have probably bought torture to the table as well as murder. Not to say murder is acceptable, but at least it's quick when done with a bullet to the head.
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Jul 11, 2014 11:10
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I'm looking forward a football team full of bearded players thicker than Tim Howard's. Perhaps bearded referee as well...
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Jul 11, 2014 11:11
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Section 31 posted:I'm looking forward a football team full of bearded players thicker than Tim Howard's. Perhaps bearded referee as well... Cutting off the goalie's hands if the other team scores...
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Jul 11, 2014 11:14
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Wait, soccer/'football' is haram? Well this seems a bit quote:...it is not permissible to give prizes except for competitions which help prepare one for jihad, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There should be no (money) prizes for competitions except archery competitions and races with camels and horses.” So gambling is ok so long as it's for war but only a form of war that's deprecated. Maybe a modern interpretation would include modern warfare activities? Racing cars then? Gotta drive stuff in a modern war right? Shaocaholica fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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Jul 11, 2014 11:19
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Shaocaholica posted:Wait, soccer/'football' is haram? How couldn't it be? Football is godless idolatry. For reference, public executions were the only form of entertainment tolerated by the Taliban.
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Jul 11, 2014 11:25
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God, they don't even have fun with it like the Aztecs did. It's like my Sunday School decided to lead a terrorist group.
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Jul 11, 2014 11:34
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If the 8th century is just the best what is the Salafist excuse for using computers, a contraption invented by a gay guy in the C20th? I assume it'll be the standard "its ok to eat pork if you're starving" thing but in which case is the plan for the caliphate to stop using haraam stuff once they've achieved total victory?
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Jul 11, 2014 11:53
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illrepute posted:God, they don't even have fun with it like the Aztecs did. It's like my Sunday School decided to lead a terrorist group. Fun like sacrificing the losing team?
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Shaocaholica posted:Fun like sacrificing the losing team? Why would the gods want losers? Nah man, they sacrificed the winners in Ōllamaliztli. And I mean, why not? If you're gonna have an empire based on blood and slaughter, why not have feathered warriors, obsidian swords (macuahuitl in the loving house!), and thousands of festivals! By comparison, ISIS's tyranny is downright banal.
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Shaocaholica posted:Wait, soccer/'football' is haram? This interpretation appears to favor NASCAR and 3-gun competition. Again, more similarities with our heartland than differences.
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ReV VAdAUL posted:If the 8th century is just the best what is the Salafist excuse for using computers, a contraption invented by a gay guy in the C20th? It reminds me of a story back from early on Afghanistan in the 2000s where this falafel vendor was recounting how a group of Taliban pulled up in a Toyota SUV armed with Kalashnikovs and started screaming at him for selling falafel because it wasn't around in the time of the Prophet. He said that you can't really call out that kind of hypocrisy when the other guy's next response is a bullet in the back of the head.
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MrNemo posted:It reminds me of a story back from early on Afghanistan in the 2000s where this falafel vendor was recounting how a group of Taliban pulled up in a Toyota SUV armed with Kalashnikovs and started screaming at him for selling falafel because it wasn't around in the time of the Prophet. He said that you can't really call out that kind of hypocrisy when the other guy's next response is a bullet in the back of the head. How does ISIS feel about the Columbian exchange?
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So the Kurds have pulled out of the Iraqi Government in response to Maliki's accusations of aiding ISIS. They will still attend parliament but the Kurdish ministers have stood aside in protest - Maliki has just lost his Foreign Minister, one of his Deputy PM's and his Trade Minister (among others). In more dramatic news, the Peshmerga have seized control of the Kirkuk and Bai Hassan oilfields from the state owned Northern Oil Company. Talk is that the move came after Baghdad instructed NOC workers to disconnect the KRG installed connection between the Kirkuk oilfields and the KRG's own Khurmala dome, which connects onwards to their controversial private pipeline to Turkey. kustomkarkommando fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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Shaocaholica posted:Wait, soccer/'football' is haram? These are people who will put an AK47, a gun designed by an atheistic society in 1945, in the face of a falafel seller, threatening him because falafal is haram because falafel didn't exist in the time of Muhammad.
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:These are people who will put an AK47, a gun designed by an atheistic society in 1945, in the face of a falafel seller, threatening him because falafal is haram because falafel didn't exist in the time of Muhammad. I suppose it's hard to appreciate life's little ironies with multiple guns pointed at you, though I hope the vendor at least had a good chuckle later that evening.
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Jul 11, 2014 17:56
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A swimming pool in Aleppo. Who says the regime doesn't look out for children?
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Jul 11, 2014 18:59
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Shaocaholica posted:Wait, soccer/'football' is haram?
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Jul 11, 2014 19:02
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ISIS is exactly what you would get if you bombed out the U.S. and it succumbed to internal conflict from armed groups. Watching that propaganda video and the poster of the video saying certain Muslims were "Muslims in name only" really hits home how we shouldn't acknowledge any political ideology based on religion and that the only time these groups function in a democracy is when the overall society is integrated and strong enough not to let them succumb to the inevitable "God wants me to kill this other dude". Nothing feels more righteous then imagining you're being forced to become violent.
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Jul 11, 2014 20:02
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HRW detailing the murder of 255 Sunni prisoners by Iraqi army and militias over the last month, some children. http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/11/iraq-campaign-mass-murders-sunni-prisoners
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Jul 11, 2014 20:12
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What? No! We're Americans, we're civilized the fact that imperial powers have been dropping bombs on these people for 100 years has nothing to do with their inability to form a modern society.
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Jul 11, 2014 20:12
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Just keep on pretending that they have no agency.
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Jul 11, 2014 20:21
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Maybe soccer is allowed but not globalism?
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So al-Golani of JaN has announced the creation of an Islamic emirate by the sounds of things? https://soundcloud.com/aboyahya12/izlalbpudtze
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