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nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
Oh btw p. sure you can make some coin selling the vid to one of those fail chans.

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Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Halo_4am posted:

You're local so I recommend Hinsdale Orthopaedics if they're in your insurance network. Great group based on my rather recent experience.

Thanks for the recommendation. I actually just got back from a consult with the orthopedic surgeon. He's planning to put a few screws through my fibula to get it where it should be w/r/t my tibia so that the ligaments that I tore can heal. He may also extend the plate on my fibula, but he won't if it's not necessary. We live a few blocks from Northwestern Memorial Hospital, so we've been going there. I'll be non-weight-bearing for 8 weeks, and then rehab!

Sucks about your crash. I'm glad you got away relatively injury free like you did.

Halo_4am
Sep 25, 2003

Code Zombie

nsaP posted:

So you know you gotta link to the pics, right?

Sounds like you came out alright considering the circumstances, bummer it happened on your trip.

I checked the dude's site and curiously I am not pictured. He also packed his poo poo and got the hell out of dodge before anybody else showed. I was informed by locals when I told them what happened that doing that is very much illegal and he was probably worried about charges and lawsuits. He's probably smart to avoid posting it because the insurance company would possibly go after him to recoup their costs.

Loads of people go by dudes with that setup every day without eating poo poo. Not his fault I paid more attention to him than the mountain road I was riding. Anybody who can figure out how to make a few bucks in that part of the country without selling meth is fine by me.

nsaP posted:

Oh btw p. sure you can make some coin selling the vid to one of those fail chans.

Depending on how the insurance plays out my pride might allow me to do that.

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123
dbl post

infraboy fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Jul 10, 2014

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123
Got a call back from Geico insurance adjuster, sounds like my BMW is being fixed by the dealer for a paltry sum of about $3730.29, all being covered by her insurance. Man them BMW fairings aren't cheap.


NO. OP. DESCRIPTION QTY EXT. PRICE LABOR PAINT
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 HANDLEBARS, MIRRORS, LEVERS
, & SWITCHES
2 Repl RT .brake lever 1 136.80 0.2 M
3 FRONT SUSPENSION & STEERING
4 Repl Steering lock hsg 1 127.42 3.5 M
5* Repl Steering lock 1 25.15 1.0* M
6# Subl Rekey Lock 1 50.00 X
7# Repl Front Brake Line 1 180.51 0.8 M
8# Bleed Brake 1 30.00 0.5 M
9 WINDSHIELD & COWLING
10* Repl RT Cowl pnl prime 1 634.05 0.5 M 2.5*
11* Repl Cowl pnl front upper orient bl 1 820.77 1.0 M 2.0*
ue/alpine white
12 Repl RT Air outlet grille 1 14.01 0.5 M
13 Repl RT Emblem BMW 1 32.02 0.1 M
14 Repl RT Decal K1200RS 1 56.00 0.3 M
15 OTHER CHARGES
16# E.P.C. 1 3.00
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subtotals ==> 2109.73 8.4 4.5

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Prior Damage Notes:
Minor scratches


Parts 2056.73
Paint Labor (Est) 4.5 hrs @ $ 80.00/hr 360.00
Mechanical Labor(Est) 8.4 hrs @ $110.00/hr 924.00
Paint Supplies (Est) 4.5 hrs @ $ 32.00/hr 144.00
Sublet/Misc. 50.00
Other Charges 3.00
----------------------------------------------------
SUBTOTAL $3537.73
Sales Tax $2200.73 @ 8.7500% 192.56
----------------------------------------------------
TOTAL COST OF REPAIRS $3730.29

ADJUSTMENTS:
Deductible 0.00
----------------------------------------------------
TOTAL ADJUSTMENTS $0.00
NET COST OF REPAIRS $3730.29

infraboy fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Jul 10, 2014

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Nice, you now have a cosmetically spanking new bike. Could do worse.

Moral_Hazard
Aug 21, 2012

Rich Kid of Insurancegram

Halo_4am posted:

Crash story.

Sorry to hear this and I'm very glad you got away from it with relatively minor injuries.

Pete Carroll
Jun 28, 2014

Pete Carroll posted:

Thanks Razzled. I'm going to run straight into a mailbox as a tribute.

Due to my hubris I now have my first crash, and man is it pathetic.

Last night around 11 PM I was taking my bike for a short ride around town to test my chain aftr tightening it for the first time ever. For those who don't know I ride a DRZ400S with a 400E engine I just installed this week. I decided to make a U-turn at a light (turning left here in freedom land) and since I've been pushing the bike a bit I decided to get as much lean as I possibly could during the turn. I started from a total stop since the light just turned green. I was going around 10 MPH (indicated, so probably closer to 7 or 8) and I'm pretty sure I was leaned over at least 30 degrees, but I'm also a dumb beginner so it could have been much less than that. I looked completely through the turn and as I'm just about turned all the way around I notice that I'm getting much closer to the ground than I intended. It happened pretty quick, so I'm not completely sure if I just let up on the throttle or cranked it too hard, but either way I ended up on my side and sliding across the lane.

Adrenaline hit me and I paused for maybe an 1/8th of a second to wait for any pain to hit and when it didn't I stood the bike up and rode on. About 6 cars passed me from the time of the crash to getting the bike running again and no one stopped, which doesn't surprise me too much considering the part of town I was in.

I got home safely and the damage report is minimal. I was wearing full gear and fell at a graceful fast-walk speed, so I don't even have a bruise on my shoulder. The bike is completely fine looking and since it was already a bit scratched from the PO I can't tell if there is a single new scratch from me, thank Japan for cheap beater dual sports. As for my gear the only damage is some scratches on the shoulder puck of my Dainese jacket, the leather is completely fine except for a bit of dirt showing up on what was my pristine white sleeve. The pants were Icon Overlord leather/mesh and they just have a bit of dirt on the white leg. I will post pictures if anyone cares, but there really isn't anything to look at.

I'm not quite sure what I did wrong besides being a new rider who pushed himself a bit harder than he should have after being off his motorcycle for over a month. A part of me wants to blame my tires, which are the old knobbies from the PO that I still need to change to slicks, but I'm sure that is just me trying to deflect blame from my own mistakes.

I did already start riding again this morning and the bike feels just fine. I'm still a bit paranoid about leaning through turns at the moment and I have to keep forcing myself to stay loose and keep a steady throttle through the turn, but as I start pushing myself again I'm getting a bit more comfortable. Right now I'm really just bothered that I'll never be able to dickwave over the fact that I haven't crashed yet, I was really looking forward to whipping that one out.

To keep this thread upbeat have a picture of my new kitten, Grendel, being ATGATT.


Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL
pft, that's just the DRZ re-initiation ritual.

(glad you're ok homie) take it easy!

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Pete Carroll posted:

I decided to get as much lean as I possibly could during the turn. I started from a total stop since the light just turned green. I was going around 10 MPH (indicated, so probably closer to 7 or 8) and I'm pretty sure I was leaned over at least 30 degrees, but I'm also a dumb beginner so it could have been much less than that.

1) glad you aren't hurt
2) the correct place to experiment with low-speed turning and leaning is an empty parking lot
3) it's really, really hard to estimate your lean angle without physically scraping something on the ground and later measuring it, and when you're new (maybe always) you have a tendency to overestimate. If you say 30 degrees it might have been more like 20
4) don't be discouraged, everyone has dropped their bike in some slow dumb situation like that. It happens.

Schroeder91
Jul 5, 2007

Pete Carroll posted:

Adrenaline hit me and I paused for maybe an 1/8th of a second to wait for any pain to hit and when it didn't I stood the bike up and rode on. About 6 cars passed me from the time of the crash to getting the bike running again and no one stopped, which doesn't surprise me too much considering the part of town I was in.



Glad you're ok and theres minimal damage!

That part really bothers me. Even if it was low speed spill, not one person can even roll up and bring the window down and ask if you're ok?

I've been lucky to have people stop for me on both of my crashes. On my first one a guy stopped to help get the bike out of the ditch with a friend, and another stopped and then went to get his truck to haul my bike (and my busted rear end) home, like 20 miles. He did it free of charge and I didn't even get to thank him. I hope I run into that dude again. Multiple people stopping to offer help/water/food and some guy offered to ride the bike home for me lol. Also had a off duty EMT stop and look me over.

Second crash I had both cars present stop to help me, and a third, with another EMT, stop and check out my neck to see if I was ok. I'm EXTREMELY thankful to have had people stop both times, and would still be even if I fell over doing a u-ie. I would always stop if I saw a biker crashed :(

Stugazi
Mar 1, 2004

Who me, Bitter?
Sumos never crash they just confirm gravity is still working.

Coydog
Mar 5, 2007



Fallen Rib
Well, two nights ago I totaled (I hope) the SV. As I was riding home on the highway, keeping up with traffic at maybe 70+ish, a huge chunk of truck tire got flung up under my front wheel, messing up my cruising mojo.

I was focused completely at that moment on my front headlight's pool of daylight, and I didn't see ANYTHING. For this reason, I think another car ran over it and flung it up under somehow. All I know is one minute I'm quietly cruising home, and then it feels like I just hit a 2ft high cement wall at highway speeds. Huge boom, bike lifts into the air angled forwards for a moment, then comes back down hard. From there, it went into an immediate and extreme death wobble. It was really really harsh and got exponentially worse over the next two seconds before the bike dumped.

I went down at 70+, though I didn't look at the speedo directly after it happened because I was distracted. I never blacked out or anything, so I remember all of it. I was toppling for quite a while, and my sharpest memory is of hearing the bike topple and skitter just behind me. I truly expected it to come down on me at any second. It missed me, and slid about 30 feet further than I. The car that pulled over to check on me would have run me over, if i hadn't seen them coming and moved my legs.

Otherwise, once I stopped I didn't get up until well after the emt/police got there. I was in such shock that it had actually happened, and just didn't feel like getting up. Fortunately I stopped in a gore, so was safe. The people who stopped spoke with 911, in between scolding me for swearing and telling me they only stopped because they had read some scripture or some poo poo.

Right after I stopped, while I refused to move, I did use the adrenaline to check all of my joints and take stock of what hurt and what didn't. I'm glad I did, because after the swelling started I couldn't move many things.

After turning down an ambulance,I had a friend take me to the ER, then spent a regretful 11 hours getting slowly processed through. I kept trying to just leave and they kept convincing me that it would only be a little longer. My gear is trashed. Even the really robust dianese shoes are toast. My a* jacket is still in decent shape, which speaks volumes to build quality. Everywhere that jacket covered, I took next to no damage. The forearm took a huge hit, right where the armor was, and I'm not even sore there. Fortunately, I picked up a new pair of gauntlet armored summer gloves this past sunday. My prior gloves were built, and wouldn't have done anything for me. The sedici pants shredded on my lower legs on both sides there towards the end of the tumble.

So the upshot is the bones in my foot and left hand were all taken just under the "all of the bones are pulverized" threshold, but not broken. I have massive swelling and discoloration on the whole hand/foot/joints. Heavy and deep bone and tissue bruising pretty much everywhere. My right clavicle is broken. My lower legs have huge road rash on the outer back of them. This is perhaps the most painful part. My whole body is made of pain, though.

That said, the doctors couldn't believe how unharmed I was. They gave me some really good pain meds and instruction to rest and ice things. All while being puzzled and looking at the xrays again. ATGATT, BITCH.

But yeah I'd be dead without my helmet and full gear.

Shimrod
Apr 15, 2007

race tires on road are a great idea, ask me!

gently caress me, that would be some freaky poo poo. Glad you're ok.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!


Jeez, dude. There's dumb mistakes, and then there's poo poo you just can't prepare for, and yours falls well into the latter category. I'm glad you're mostly OK. Heal up quickly. What are you doing to treat the road rash?

Halo_4am
Sep 25, 2003

Code Zombie

Coydog posted:


So the upshot is the bones in my foot and left hand were all taken just under the "all of the bones are pulverized" threshold, but not broken. I have massive swelling and discoloration on the whole hand/foot/joints. Heavy and deep bone and tissue bruising pretty much everywhere. My right clavicle is broken. My lower legs have huge road rash on the outer back of them. This is perhaps the most painful part. My whole body is made of pain, though.

Sucks balls man. Road debri like that is just one of those things. You might have been able to see it, but if it popped and you were at 70 then there's a superhuman window of reaction time even if you did. Hard to say what you might have been able to do different without being there.

Glad to hear you came away from it. Clavicle will heal up fine, and gets much easier after the first week or two when you don't have to sit up to sleep. Lots of people say it's among the more painful injuries to get since it can't be casted... If the road rash is worse than let that be a lesson to bros rocking Levi's.

Heal up fast man.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Whoa that is loving terrible, jesus. That is pretty much a textbook example of why you wear gear even if you're confident you won't crash yourself.

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


It's poo poo like that that made me finally get some pants before a trip this weekend.

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa coydog :[ :[ :[

Glad you are alive and well man, gently caress that is a lovely crash! were you on one of the interstates?
I was going to commute to work tomorrow down 400 cause my car's front brakes need to be changed badly... I think I will just take the camry instead. :ohdear:

Coydog
Mar 5, 2007



Fallen Rib
Thanks for your well wishes and concern. I really appreciate it. I know I read somewhere here on what you could do to lessen or stop a wobble, but this was so extreme I completely forgot. Since I was just riding along like normal, then a huge boom and bucking bronco, I was surprised and ineffective at reacting on more than instinct. Until I was tumbling for a bit, I couldn't grasp that it was actually happening.

I spent about 9 hours in the hospital before even getting any pain meds. Until they removed my pants later, I thought I just had some really bad fabric burn. I knew I was bleeding, because the pants were sticky, but at that point everything hurt so much I couldn't focus on more than my foot and hand, which hurt so much I thought I broke a ton of small bones. My fingers felt cold and stunned for about two hours after, but I forced myself to move them right after the crash, and they weren't broken.

At any rate, the doctors didn't do anything for my huge scrapes but look at them and utter surprise and awe. They didn't clean them or put anything on them. I showered when I got home, almost passed out from the pain, but managed to clean them with a soapy scrubbing thing. Today, I put a bunch of neosporin on both sides and wrapped in gauze. It seems very surface, but extreme.

Definitely get riding pant's, too. Get everything. These sedici pants were designed to be abrasion resistant and they still gave up the ghost near the end. The butt of the pants is almost entirely ripped way in spots, which matches some very deep bruises I got there.

I could never understand people who wore no gear, or a helmet and no gear. Flip flops, shorts, and a tank top?! I just don't get it. I walked away from this pretty unscathed, all things considered.

Razzled- Thanks man! I was on i20, headed west, just before the capital blvd exit. I wasn't even hooning or anything bad. Be careful out there!

Coydog fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Jul 11, 2014

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Which hospital did you go to?

Coydog
Mar 5, 2007



Fallen Rib
Grady. Never again. Grady after 9pm, doubly never again. What a zoo.

VVVVVVV Yeah, and they didn't catch on that I needed a wheelchair until halfway through the night. I think I had to request one. And my phone died in the first hour, so I had no distraction whatsoever. It wasn't a fun experience at all. Being made to sit down, then stand up, over and over again was pretty bad.

Coydog fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Jul 11, 2014

ought ten
Feb 6, 2004

No pain meds for 9 hours? That's criminal. What the gently caress.

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL
Oh God grady. Maybe it's a good thing they didn't dress your wounds, you might have needed to get tested afterwards

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Coydog posted:

Grady. Never again. Grady after 9pm, doubly never again. What a zoo.

VVVVVVV Yeah, and they didn't catch on that I needed a wheelchair until halfway through the night. I think I had to request one. And my phone died in the first hour, so I had no distraction whatsoever. It wasn't a fun experience at all. Being made to sit down, then stand up, over and over again was pretty bad.

Mother loving Grady trauma center. When I was there with a broken leg, I got to hang out in a stretcher in the hall for a few hours. Dude next to me was handcuffed to his bed with a police escort. I think, if you're not obviously hurt bad, you get lost in the shuffle.

Their orthopedics department is top notch though.

Razzled posted:

Oh God grady. Maybe it's a good thing they didn't dress your wounds, you might have needed to get tested afterwards

In their defense, they're the best trauma center in the south east. On the other hand, if it's not really bad, you're not even a blip on their radar.

e. They're also a huge money sink, and basically wouldn't be around if Emory didn't need tax deductions.

Safety Dance fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Jul 11, 2014

Schroeder91
Jul 5, 2007

:eyepop: Holy poo poo, that sounds horrific. I'm glad you made it out alive. I think I'm going to buy some new riding pants... I feel like these AGV sport jeans+kevlar probably wont hold up, if I can manage to crash with them on instead of my normal jeans (that I've crashed in twice now).

Get well soon!

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
Jesus CA, these past few weeks have not been good for us. Be safe out there.

Angryboot
Oct 23, 2005

Grimey Drawer
drat, no kidding. Hope you guys heal up soon and get well taken care of by your families and insurance companies.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
I had a similar experience once...hit something, maybe a dead animal, felt like the front end was 2 feet off the ground from ramping off it. Dumb luck meant I landed with everything inline.

Glad you have no broken bones - gear is a wonderful thing.

M42
Nov 12, 2012


Jesus loving christ, dude. Glad you made it out alive.

ReformedNiceGuy
Feb 12, 2008
Bloody hell Coydog, that's exactly the kind of accident that scares the poo poo out of me.

Glad you made it out relatively in one piece and I hope you heal up well soon.

MrKatharsis
Nov 29, 2003

feel the bern
I am going to go buy riding pants today.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Picture time!

Here's my ankle, after being somewhat set.

Relative to the base of the tibia (big bone), my foot is shifted to the right. The fibula (little bone) is broken a little way above the plate that's already in there. It's hard to see, but there's a small chunk broken off of the tibia as well.



Here's a picture of my ankle just before surgery today. That angry red spot? Not road rash -- that's where my tibia was trying to poke through my skin after the foot dislocation*. I was wearing tall, reasonably protective Sidi boots as well. I wonder how it would have gone down if I was wearing SMX-5s.

I just got surgery done to stabilize the leg-bones. They gave me a nerve block, so I absolutely can't feel anything in my leg right now. They say that's going to wear off around 2 am, so I'm going to be on prescription narcotics for a little while.

*Fortunately, it failed. I got my first good look at the injury in the ambulance when they were taking my boots off. I saw the shape of my ankle through my sock and asked "Is it compound? I guess not, since there's no blood."

jdonz
Jan 4, 2004

Coydog posted:

Huge chunk of truck tire
I had a close encounter with a retread a few years ago under similar conditions and luckily I came out ok. The only physical damage was to my shifter, the tire sheared the knob off. It made me uncomfortable enough to decide to stop commuting to work on I-10 for a few years and I'm just now getting ready to start commuting again. I'm glad you are ok, heal up soon.

\/ That is exactly what happened to me, it was at night, after work, going to fast and following to closely.

jdonz fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Jul 11, 2014

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard
My friends razz me for avoiding riding past dark, but this is why. The "can't see stuff until too late" threshold comes way down at night.

Stugazi
Mar 1, 2004

Who me, Bitter?
I always lane position to have a view even if that means straddling lanes. I learned that trick recently. Makes a big difference on visibility.

Also, I rarely ride at night.

High Protein
Jul 12, 2009

Safety Dance posted:

Here's a picture of my ankle just before surgery today. That angry red spot? Not road rash -- that's where my tibia was trying to poke through my skin after the foot dislocation*. I was wearing tall, reasonably protective Sidi boots as well. I wonder how it would have gone down if I was wearing SMX-5s.

Do you mean the SMX-es would have been better or worse? Also, do you have your bike back yet?

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
This photo with that username.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

High Protein posted:

Do you mean the SMX-es would have been better or worse? Also, do you have your bike back yet?

I'm wondering if they would have been better.

Progressive has the documentation they need to get the bike out of impound and get it repaired. I don't know if they've started that process yet; I've been in bed since pretty much Friday afternoon.

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Bugdrvr
Mar 7, 2003

Your ankle x-ray is making my ankle hurt.

I bet you might have fared a bit better with the SMXs but really who knows. I don't wear mine all the time because it's much easier just to toss on my TCX boots and run out the door. Hearing about crashes like the last few in this thread have got me thinking about risk mitigation again. Maybe it's worth the extra minute every trip to put on the A*s and make sure to zipper my pants into my jacket.

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