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Snak posted:That doesn't mean that it served a purpose in the remake... The scene could have been done well, but it was done stupidly. how would you have done it well?
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scary ghost dog posted:how would you have done it well? I would have made it serve a thematic purpose and fit into the story somehow rather than being just a random thing that happens?
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scary ghost dog posted:how would you have done it well? Cut in the deleted scene from the 1933 movie.
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Skwirl posted:Cut in the deleted scene from the 1933 movie. I thought that was a lost reel? That's the real reason Jackson kept it in the movie, as an homage to what might have been. I like his King Kong, but yeah it's about 20 minutes too long.
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Snak posted:I would have made it serve a thematic purpose and fit into the story somehow rather than being just a random thing that happens? the thematic purpose is the death of hope. its a very common beat in adventure films
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Superman Returns uses deleted scenes from Donner's Superman and The Limey uses clips from old Terrance Stamp films to show a young Terrance Stamp. Are their other movies that re-appropriate old footage like that?
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effectual posted:I thought that was a lost reel? That's the real reason Jackson kept it in the movie, as an homage to what might have been. I like his King Kong, but yeah it's about 20 minutes too long. I was making a joke, everything I know about that scene I read in this thread.
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scary ghost dog posted:the thematic purpose is the death of hope. its a very common beat in adventure films Yeah that's actually fair. I remember that it worked pretty well for that. I retract that criticism.
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I did not like PJ's King Kong, but I did like the bug pit. Seems like the oddest part to take issue with.
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Skwirl posted:Superman Returns uses deleted scenes from Donner's Superman and The Limey uses clips from old Terrance Stamp films to show a young Terrance Stamp. Are their other movies that re-appropriate old footage like that? This movie used footage from O Lucky Man! to depict a young Malcolm McDowell.
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Skwirl posted:Superman Returns uses deleted scenes from Donner's Superman and The Limey uses clips from old Terrance Stamp films to show a young Terrance Stamp. Are their other movies that re-appropriate old footage like that? Forrest Gump does it quite a bit of course. Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid
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Jul 11, 2014 10:07
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Skwirl posted:Superman Returns uses deleted scenes from Donner's Superman and The Limey uses clips from old Terrance Stamp films to show a young Terrance Stamp. Are their other movies that re-appropriate old footage like that? Goldmember does it when showing a young Michael Caine.
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Video Viddy Games posted:Goldmember does it when showing a young Michael Caine. Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang does something similar.
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Video Viddy Games posted:Goldmember does it when showing a young Michael Caine. Also a young Hot Saucerman.
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Skwirl posted:Superman Returns uses deleted scenes from Donner's Superman and The Limey uses clips from old Terrance Stamp films to show a young Terrance Stamp. Are their other movies that re-appropriate old footage like that? That photograph of young Colonel Kurtz in Apocalypse Now is Marlon Brando in costume for Reflections in a Golden Eye.
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Not quite the same thing but that 30 Rock episode when they introduced the HD cameras for TGS used Red October footage when showing Jack Donaghy in HD.
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scary ghost dog posted:spider pit was a deleted scene in the original It was never shot. However, Peter Jackson did a  recreation of what it might have been like for the 2005 Kong DVD, using stop-motion and everything:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOMKnhN7ABs
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Mechafunkzilla posted:It was never shot. However, Peter Jackson did a it was definitely shot because test audiences were freaked out by it.
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I rewatched the T-Rex battle from PJ's Kong this morning and it really is a fantastically staged action scene. There is a little of the wonky compositing that plagues the dino stampede, but the scene itself is just perfectly paced and exceptionally staged. It builds upon itself so well and is just so exhilarating. It's got that Spielbergian plate-spinning kind of tension as things keep piling on top of each other. It's really terrific. The spider-pit scene isn't quite as successful but it plays off the battle that precedes it really well. The quiet nature of that sequence is a great contrast to the bombast of the previous one. If the movie had been a little tighter-paced leading up to it I think the sequence would play a little better.
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Hibernator posted:I rewatched the T-Rex battle from PJ's Kong this morning and it really is a fantastically staged action scene. There is a little of the wonky compositing that plagues the dino stampede, but the scene itself is just perfectly paced and exceptionally staged. It builds upon itself so well and is just so exhilarating. It's got that Spielbergian plate-spinning kind of tension as things keep piling on top of each other. It's really terrific. The idea of the dino-stampede scene isn't bad, and if it was cut down it could work okay. It's just that they spend so long running among the legs of the dinosaurs that it ceases to be a "HOLY poo poo!" moment and is more like "wow this is still going on". A stampede is not a scary thing if all you have to do to not get hurt is be a main character and keep jogging. If it was like "Oh gently caress stampede! oh poo poo guy got stepped on! Oh holy christ raptors! whew the main characters made it!" in quick succession I think it would work a lot better. Instead it's like Adrien Brody immediately adapts to running through the stampede and then is able to fight the raptors without distraction.
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Jul 12, 2014 04:17
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The bigger issue is that it's a film featuring Jack Black and is therefore unwatchable.
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School of Rock is good
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Hat Thoughts posted:School of Rock is good This. I will fight you if you think otherwise <  >
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Hat Thoughts posted:School of Rock is good Also Bernie, Kung Fu Panda, High Fidelity, and Tropic Thunder. Jack Black is in plenty of good stuff.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:The bigger issue is that it's a film featuring Jack Black and is therefore unwatchable. He was fine in that but I am glad that he's dropped all pretenses of being a serious actor and just spends all day getting blazed as hell and entertaining children.
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Ok, so it's just me who really loving hates Jack Black, cool.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Ok, so it's just me who really loving hates Jack Black, cool. For every comedian there's going to be people that love them and don't get why people hate on them and people that despise them and doesn't get why people like them. Comedy just sort of works that way where no one can really be for everyone. Still, if you think Bernie is a bad movie you're just sort of wrong.
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I loving love Kung Fu Panda and nothing will convince me that it's not one of the greatest modern-day tributes to the wuxia genre. edit: Well, greatest in a feel-good way.
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I actually just rewatched Bernie on Netflix and yeah it's definitely an unambiguously very good movie and Jack Black's best performance by a huge margin. I thought Kung Fu Panda was excruciatingly awful though. I don't automatically dislike kids movies, but I genuinely have no idea what anyone who's not a kid saw in that movie. Uncle Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Jul 12, 2014 |
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I dislike Tropic Thunder, which is a very unpopular opinion, however, Tropic Thunder is bad. I dunno, I get why people think it's funny but 90% of the jokes being "Isn't Hollywood whacky" topped off with Tom Cruise dancing in a fat suit just didn't do it for me.
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I guess I'm just a sucker for really romanticized kung fu stories. Dustin Hoffman is great, as is Ian McShane. Basically I just like the style of the visuals, music, and story coming together.
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Skwirl posted:Superman Returns uses deleted scenes from Donner's Superman and The Limey uses clips from old Terrance Stamp films to show a young Terrance Stamp. Are their other movies that re-appropriate old footage like that? Kirk Douglas plays a washed-up actor in Two Weeks in Another Town (1962), and in it they screen footage from another film, The Bad and the Beautiful (1953), to show his younger self. Both were directed by Vincente Minnelli.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Ok, so it's just me who really loving hates Jack Black, cool. You can't tell me that you didn't enjoy this scene from "The Jackal". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ivga0iPzgg
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What's funny is that a lot of his career has just been capitalizing on the persona presented in High Fidelity. But part of what makes him work in that movie is how loving obnoxious he is.
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Timeless Appeal posted:What's funny is that a lot of his career has just been capitalizing on the persona presented in High Fidelity. But part of what makes him work in that movie is how loving obnoxious he is. His character in High Fidelity is pretty similar to his character in Tenacious D. The best part of when I first saw High Fidelity I didn't know who Jack Black was, so at the end, I had no idea he could sing.
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In his defense, I don't think that Jack Black has ever pretended to not be obnoxious. One of the best things that Jack Black has been involved in is the game Brutal Legend. The gameplay itself is mediocre to boring, but the entire concept, soundtract, and amazing metal album-cover-to-live visuals and over the top "epic" story is totally worth it. It is a video game where Jack Black voices a roadie that gets sucked into the land of metal and encounters characters voiced by Lemmy, Rob Halford, and Ozzy Ozbourne.
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Jul 12, 2014 19:57
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pick of destiny is extremeley my poo poo
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Jul 12, 2014 20:58
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Never going to hate Ben Stiller because of The Ben Stiller Show. Never going to hate Jack Black because of HBO's Tenacious D.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Never going to hate Ben Stiller because of The Ben Stiller Show. Never going to hate Jack Black because of HBO's Tenacious D.
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scary ghost dog posted:pick of destiny is extremeley my poo poo The contrast between him tripping on mushrooms and meeting a yeti with him climbing up a tree and falling in a river is the funniest part of the film. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2WqYidC_0Y
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