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hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

baka kaba posted:

"The guitarist's pitch shifted immediately yet transparently, as though in a moment he'd effortlessly reached for another guitar tuned especially for the moment"

That would involve the author knowing anything about music other than namedropping Disturbed and Slayer when trying to talk about heavy music.

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Castor Poe
Jul 19, 2010

Jar Jar is the key to all of this.
How's the Inspired by Lennon Casino? Is the tuning stability better than the standard one?

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

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Allen Wren posted:

Oh, huh. Well, I stand corrected, then.

For the record:

Guitar Center usually keeps them all in a big display with a test guitar, which I find endlessly fun to screw with. Probably where he did his 'research'.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Castor Poe posted:

How's the Inspired by Lennon Casino? Is the tuning stability better than the standard one?

I think they're 5ply bodies and US made hardware, so probably better tuners in there.

The Casino Coupe is finally about to release for 450. Hopefully someone around here gets on in stock for me to check out.

ed

Zuhzuhzombie!! fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Jul 10, 2014

TopherCStone
Feb 27, 2013

I am very important and deserve your attention

RagingHematoma posted:

The only issue I have is I have to put each finger down individually to get the chord shapes right. I am trying to unlearn this, but my brain is wired to put one finger down at a time.
I'd love to hear some stories about how some of the more advanced players in this thread learned. What were the key things you focused on that helped you to get to the next level?

For the first part, play the chord change game. I think Justin even recommends it. Basically, pick 2 chords to switch between and see how many times you can change in a minute, then try to beat that score. (I sound a lot like Principal Skinner right now...) But it works! Don't do a lot at once or you'll get terribly bored, but take a few minutes every day to do that and in order to beat your records you'll have to start doing it the right way, it happened pretty subconsciously for me. Rocksmith 2014 has a few games that will help with this, but you really don't need them they just spice it up a bit.

For the second, part it's a bit fluid for me. I started by playing bass in high school because a friend of mine wanted to leave his band and start a new one, and he pretty much showed me everything (including a ton of bad habits). For 3 or so years I kept learning snippets from friends, bits from books (I have never really found a guitar book that I was able to stick with), and just playing on my own trying to come up with neat melodies. I did not progress well that way, to say the least.

Vital things to know: chord construction, inversions (these both help with lead guitar more than you might think), mechanical stuff (including your chord/fingers issue, string skipping, palm muting, all that jazz), playing in time, and learning songs you like. And I don't mean just finding some tab and parroting off what's written, but really studying the song. What key is it in? What's the chord progression in terms of scale degrees? How does that lead part relate to the chords? Is the guitarist just jamming on a scale, or playing mostly chord tones with a little spice added? How is the rhythm counted out? I wish I could say that I have a great ear and can just pick parts out, but I haven't developed that skill very much and I wish I had started earlier on.

Getting some instruction helped a lot, though I know it can be expensive. Even if you just do a few one-off lessons with someone (as long as they're good!), it's great to have a critical eye on your playing and to get some homework designed around your goals. If you have access to iRealB or Band in a Box or some other way to loop some chords/backing track that you can jam on, that's great for developing your melodic playing. Also good to play with a friend who is also musical, but sometimes that can be limiting in its own way (my most frequent jam buddy, for example, really has one specific style and when I wanted to get into jazz and blues more, I just couldn't integrate it with his style, so I had to do those alone) I think it's been said before in this thread a lot, but the best advice I've gotten is "Shut up and play yer guitar!"

Ferrous Wheel
Aug 18, 2007

"This is not only a security risk but we occasionally get pigeons roosting in the space as a result."

Castor Poe posted:

How's the Inspired by Lennon Casino? Is the tuning stability better than the standard one?

I've played a friend's briefly. Really brought sounding guitar—quite authentic near as I can tell. Not as versatile as the standard though (in my stupid opinion at least). As for the tuners, the ones on the Korean casinos are really loving solid, so I think you're probably safe with the MIJ version.

Schpyder
Jun 13, 2002

Attackle Grackle

Better inexpensive tele for the money, given used prices: Squier Classic Vibe 50s or G&L Tribute ASAT Special?

iostream.h
Mar 14, 2006
I want your happy place to slap you as it flies by.

Nebraska Tim posted:

Goons! My GAS is flaring hard for an SG right now, and I could use some advice in buying used guitars. I was browsing at a local pawn shop and found an Epiphone SG (possibly a G-400) for $200, seemingly marked down from $260. Strings look good in terms of not buzzing and decent intonation, though the A string is not present.

Here are my questions for this situation:

1: Should I be concerned that the A string is missing? It would suck to find out my "new" axe is hosed for just the one string. Don't know if someone snapped it, or there's a part that cut it.

2: Is there any way to know for sure that this guitar is, in fact, a G-400? I have the serial number, but there was no distinguishing marks on the guitar. It has a set neck, trapezoid inlays, half pickguard, and covered pups.

3: I'm going back sometime soon to check intonation with a tuner, double check that the frets aren't goofy. Anything else I should add to my list?

1. Nope, not in the slightest. Look at the tuner and look at the bridge. Strings don't matter when you're buying.

3. Don't do this, especially in a pawn shop. You'll get a much better deal if you just say 'here's Mr. Cash' with a minimal amount of fuss. Intonation is something that can be fixed in a few minutes. Seriously, I'm not being an rear end, but don't be that guy. It's a $200 pawn shop guitar. Flip it up, look down the neck from the bridge to see if the neck is something close to straight and, if it is, and everything looks ok, don't sweat it. ;)

40 OZ
May 16, 2003

Schpyder posted:

Better inexpensive tele for the money, given used prices: Squier Classic Vibe 50s or G&L Tribute ASAT Special?

This is impossible to answer.

Guitars vary wildly in price on the used market. Further, these are musical instruments- it doesn't work like lawnmowers or carburetors. I mean, look at all the famous people playing jacked up Silvertones and poo poo.

One might have been left in a case for 99% of it's life, and the other might have been used as a murder weapon.

Buying new, the CV 50's is probably going to win because of the economy of scale. If you look around, you'll see that it is probably the highest rated 'cheap' guitar around. I have one and I love it. I've never seen a used asian G&L in the wild, either.

40 OZ fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Jul 11, 2014

Nebraska Tim
Feb 2, 2010

iostream.h posted:

3. Don't do this, especially in a pawn shop. You'll get a much better deal if you just say 'here's Mr. Cash' with a minimal amount of fuss. Intonation is something that can be fixed in a few minutes. Seriously, I'm not being an rear end, but don't be that guy. It's a $200 pawn shop guitar. Flip it up, look down the neck from the bridge to see if the neck is something close to straight and, if it is, and everything looks ok, don't sweat it. ;)
Thanks for this advice, really. I get super spergy about dumb stuff when left to my own devices.

Ferrous Wheel
Aug 18, 2007

"This is not only a security risk but we occasionally get pigeons roosting in the space as a result."
One thing I would recommend for a pawn shop instrument is to get a good whiff of it. It's not usually a huge issue, but if a guitar has an odor that you can detect in a dingy pan shop it can be pretty hard to get rid of. Cigarette smoke is the main offender, but there's also the occasional guitar that generally smells like death.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Nebraska Tim posted:

Thanks for this advice, really. I get super spergy about dumb stuff when left to my own devices.

If anything, at your spergiest at least play every fret and let it ring a little. Listen for dead spots, any inconsistencies, and so on. As mentioned though don't worry. Smell it, ring it out, make sure it's not a wobbly mess. Also doubles as dating advice if your love life has been inconsistent lately.

Schpyder posted:

Better inexpensive tele for the money, given used prices: Squier Classic Vibe 50s or G&L Tribute ASAT Special?

Squier! I haven't played the G&L but the CV is a ridiculous deal for a classic playing Telecaster.

Kilometers Davis fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Jul 11, 2014

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Ferrous Wheel posted:

Cigarette smoke is the main offender, but there's also the occasional guitar that generally smells like death.

Or cat pee.

nrr
Jan 2, 2007

Not sure if this is the best thread to be asking this in, but you guys seem to know what you're doing with more than just guitars, so here goes:

So I'm doing a couple of shows with a DJ where I'm plugging my guitar into an amp/effects sim on my ipad, and running that signal through to the DJ's mixer to be played through the PA. Recently, he's had a little 4 channel mixer for me to use, so that I have my own channel that I can monitor with my own headphones, and have my own volume control so I can raise, lower or cut the signal that he gets as well. It's been working well so far, except he's going to be away for the next couple of weeks, and I have a new DJ coming in to work with that isn't sure how to set this up, and doesn't have another mixer I could use.

So basically, I'm asking for any ideas on alternative setups for this if anyone has any, even though I guess it mainly comes down to what sort of mixer the new DJ is going to have.

Secondly though, and I guess more importantly, I'm after recommendations on a cheap, reliable mixer that would do this job so that I don't have to rely on whatever DJ I'm playing with to have gear for me. It'd be really helpful if I could monitor both my own signal and the DJ's main out through my headphones, and also be able to independently control the volume of the signal I send without it impacting the volume of my signal in my headphones.

I've never bought a mixer before, so I'm not exactly sure what I'm doing/looking for, but any help would be appreciated.

field balm
Feb 5, 2012

Anyone make a decent cheap 2x10? I'm in Aus so probably rules out a lot of companies.

Git Mah Belt Son
Apr 26, 2003

Happy Happy Gators
Looking for some troubleshooting help.

I have an electric guitar that sounds weak on the high E string - but only when amplified clean. With some gain it rings fine. Unplugged it rings fine. There's no fret buzzing. It happens in all pickup positions. It's a little weak at fret 0, a little more weak up the fretboard, it's the worst at the 12th fret, and gets a tiny bit better after but still not good after that. I meticulously set the thing up to perfect spec. I thought maybe the pickups were too close so I lowered them, then tried raising them, makes no difference. I changed the strings - same issue.

It's the weirdest problem. I've seen issues with high frets before causing something similar, but this is the whole fret board to varying degrees. I've seen nuts cause something similar, but that would cause an issue with fretted notes. The thing being fine when unplugged or distorted is really throwing me for a loop.

The only two things left I can think of are bad pickups (somehow, I've never heard of all 3 poles on one side going bad) or a bad saddle.

Any thoughts?

Git Mah Belt Son fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Jul 12, 2014

iostream.h
Mar 14, 2006
I want your happy place to slap you as it flies by.

Pickups level in the pickguard or do you have the treble side jacked up a little?

Git Mah Belt Son
Apr 26, 2003

Happy Happy Gators
Neck/middle are level, bridge is up a little. That one is to Fender spec - 2mm bass side, 1.6mm treble side.

I found decent a way to describe the sound I'm getting out of it...it sounds like a really, really fast but not deep tremolo effect is on when the note is picked.

Git Mah Belt Son fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Jul 12, 2014

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

I've noticed the same thing with a few of my guitars. Lighter strings make it more noticeable. Can't say I have any answers though. It's quite strange.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

I don't know anything about the electronics (which I'm guessing is where the real problem lies) but the rest of it makes sense - unplugged it's fine, because you're just hearing it acoustically. Distorted it's fine, because the signal's being boosted and compressed.

The whole worst-at-the-12th thing makes me thing it's something to do with the bow in the neck, since that's basically where the low point of the valley is. If there's definitely no buzzing or muting, and you've checked your clearances properly, that sounds to me like it's related to the string height over the pickups somehow? Like fretting at the 12th pulls the string down lower than anywhere else, since it's the lowest part of the neck. But it doesn't seem too likely, the actual difference at the pickup end of the string would be tiny.

I'd make drat sure you're not catching one of the highest frets - fret at the 12th and check the clearance under everything. Or better, raise the action a lot and see if the problem goes away. Check the bridge too, make sure the string's sitting right. Sticking your ear next to the pickups might help when you audition the unplugged sound

e- that sound you're describing, is it like a sort of phasing eeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuwwwwwwwww, like there's some sort of interference in the vibration?

iostream.h
Mar 14, 2006
I want your happy place to slap you as it flies by.

If it's a tremolo/warble it sounds like the pickups are too high.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
this new cab is great and all but now i have to spend like 4 weeks tweaking my settings

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Castor Poe
Jul 19, 2010

Jar Jar is the key to all of this.

Ferrous Wheel posted:

I've played a friend's briefly. Really brought sounding guitar—quite authentic near as I can tell. Not as versatile as the standard though (in my stupid opinion at least). As for the tuners, the ones on the Korean casinos are really loving solid, so I think you're probably safe with the MIJ version.

The Elitist (MIJ) is way out of my price range.


I watched all the Casino videos I could find on Youtube and maybe I'm crazy, but I think prefer the sound of the Alcino V P-90s to the P-90T/P-90R found on the Lennon model.
Since my only concern is the tuning stability, I think I'm gonna go with the Standard. If it's really as bad as people make it out to be, I'll just put locking grovers on it and pray I won't have to re-tune after each song.


Semi-related: That amp sounds loving amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfjtSuUXcxQ



Some staggered-pole pickups are of the devil. Lower your pickups as far as you can and switch to a heavier gauge. If the problem persists, get a set of flat-pole pups.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

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anyone have a copy of total guitar 254?

Actuary X
Jul 20, 2007

Not really the best actuary in the world.

Git Mah Belt Son posted:

The only two things left I can think of are bad pickups (somehow, I've never heard of all 3 poles on one side going bad) or a bad saddle.
This is definitely a problem with the electronics. (If it was the saddle you would hear it acoustically as well.) The first thing I would suspect is that the E string is on the edge of where the pickup's magnetic field is - that the string is not aligned over the pole piece and is moving sideways out of its range. Do the pickups stick out farther on the bass side than on the treble side?

There is also a remote possibility that this has to do with a capacitor that is not soldered properly and is vibrating in and out of contact a little bit or is going bad in some way. Is the problem different with the tone control all the way up and all the way down?

TopherCStone
Feb 27, 2013

I am very important and deserve your attention
I got a $10 gift certificate to Guitar Center because I filled out a survey. What should I buy?

Note: I am not opposed to spending more than :10bux: but let's try no higher than $20

Pondex
Jul 8, 2014

Some sweet guitar synth-triggering at 9:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcHLhZX47Wg&t=555s

I think I need one of those things

Hollis Brownsound
Apr 2, 2009

by Lowtax

Pondex posted:

Some sweet guitar synth-triggering at 9:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcHLhZX47Wg&t=555s

I think I need one of those things

Gruntcore™

Gripen5
Nov 3, 2003

'Startocaster' is more fun to say than I expected.
There is an Agile Hawker with a Wilkinson floating bridge on Craig's list for $140,which I would love to get just to mess around with. However, the guitar has no strings on it and hasn't been played in a year. It doesn't say how long it has been without strings, but I would say that it will likely be for an entire year. Is it likely the neck is messed up from not having any tension on it? It would also be difficult to tell if anything else is hosed on it. Should I just give it a pass?

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

TopherCStone posted:

I got a $10 gift certificate to Guitar Center because I filled out a survey. What should I buy?

Note: I am not opposed to spending more than :10bux: but let's try no higher than $20

NYXLs NYXLs

Southern Heel
Jul 2, 2004

Castor Poe posted:

The Elitist (MIJ) is way out of my price range.


I watched all the Casino videos I could find on Youtube and maybe I'm crazy, but I think prefer the sound of the Alcino V P-90s to the P-90T/P-90R found on the Lennon model.
Since my only concern is the tuning stability, I think I'm gonna go with the Standard. If it's really as bad as people make it out to be, I'll just put locking grovers on it and pray I won't have to re-tune after each song.


Have you thought about the Ibanez ASR70? I found it felt ALOT nicer than the equivalent priced epiphone, but UK guitar prices are quite messed up so may not reflect your buying power.

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!

Gripen5 posted:

There is an Agile Hawker with a Wilkinson floating bridge on Craig's list for $140,which I would love to get just to mess around with. However, the guitar has no strings on it and hasn't been played in a year. It doesn't say how long it has been without strings, but I would say that it will likely be for an entire year. Is it likely the neck is messed up from not having any tension on it? It would also be difficult to tell if anything else is hosed on it. Should I just give it a pass?

I would not bother unless you plan on removing the awful "Thank you Lord" sticker on it.

I saw that guitar too and was wondering what kind of idiot leaves a guitar without strings for a year. The only way I would consider buying it if I were you, is if he would string it before you get there so you can see if it is totally hosed or not.

unlawfulsoup fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Jul 12, 2014

TopherCStone
Feb 27, 2013

I am very important and deserve your attention

Good call, I've been meaning to give those a shot.

Gripen5
Nov 3, 2003

'Startocaster' is more fun to say than I expected.

unlawfulsoup posted:

I would not bother unless you plan on removing the awful "Thank you Lord" sticker on it.

I saw that guitar too and was wondering what kind of idiot leaves a guitar without strings for a year. The only way I would consider buying it if I were you, is if he would string it before you get there so you can see if it is totally hosed or not.

Yeah. I definitely was. But I had a feeling it's not gonna be worth the trouble. Oh well. Maybe I willl splurge and get a low end. Santana some day.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

unlawfulsoup posted:

I would not bother unless you plan on removing the awful "Thank you Lord" sticker on it.

I saw that guitar too and was wondering what kind of idiot leaves a guitar without strings for a year. The only way I would consider buying it if I were you, is if he would string it before you get there so you can see if it is totally hosed or not.

My cousin found an unstrung Silvertone (not the high point of quality) in the attic of a house they bought. No idea how long it had even been up there like that.

I tossed a nut on it, half assed intonated it, and sold it for $300. Sometimes you get lucky.

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!

Sockington posted:

My cousin found an unstrung Silvertone (not the high point of quality) in the attic of a house they bought. No idea how long it had even been up there like that.

I tossed a nut on it, half assed intonated it, and sold it for $300. Sometimes you get lucky.

It is not guaranteed hosed or anything, but do you want to take that risk for $140? I mean the guy selling it could have easily strung it and sold it for more, which kind of makes me wonder as well.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
I have a beginner question, I had an old guitar lying around that I hadn't played in a while. I've been teaching myself Ukelele and have been doing better so I decided to give my old electric guitar another spin and try to learn it. I pulled it out of storage and found that one of the strings had snapped at some point, the 1st string. I bought some strings to restring it and I got the old one out and the new one in, but my tuner said it was playing at am A which I was assuming was a 5th string A note so I was tightening it and the string snapped. Did I just tighten it too tight? Or did I gently caress something up trying to restring it?

muike
Mar 16, 2011

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you made it too tight. guitar strings do not want to go up to high a

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Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

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muike posted:

you made it too tight. guitar strings do not want to go up to high a

Light strings on a short scale don't handle it too badly, but yeah you generally don't want to hit A 440 on any of your open strings.

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