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A friend is moving to San Diego and can't take all this stuff with him so he gave it to me.  Now I have 3 barbells, 10 45# plates, 4 35s, 6 25s, 7 10s, and 4 5s. I also have a bunch of kettle bells and random other things. I can start my own Crossfit gym 
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Fart Sandwiches posted:A friend is moving to San Diego and can't take all this stuff with him so he gave it to me. You're going to be neck deep in crossfit babes.
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Except they'll all have broken backs so they won't be able to do anything.
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May 31, 2014 23:34
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Just like I like em
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Crazy Mike posted:I feel every soldier that is involuntarily administratively separated is a failure of leadership as well as a failure of the soldier, and your simplistic dismissive attitude is part of the problem instead of the solution. If you are sufficiently motivated, you can get in army strong shape. The challenge I'm having is figuring out how to motivate someone so far below the bell curve so that they can achieve the standard. You want to know what being in Army strong shape is like? It's called going to Iraq and doing dismounted patrols for 8 hours, in 120-130 degree heat, with 70-90 pounds of equipment on your chest. Or it's doing mountain ops in Afghanistan for 10 hours. You want to know what happens if you can't do that? You get rotated out and you get stuck burning poo poo all day or cleaning the weapons for the dudes that can hack it. I know this, because I've seen it. If you can't hack it, you'll get someone loving killed and it probably won't be just yourself. If you joined an organization that has a core requirement of being in good physical shape it's not a loving secret that you don't belong if you can't reach the minimum standards. You can't say that it's a surprising development, either, because we've been at war for nearly 14 goddamn years. The biggest mistake the Army made in the last decade is letting people like you in during the surge. People that probably wouldn't have been let in prior or post surge. It's you, you're the problem. You know why most combat arms units have a 270+ score requirement? Because that's still not the level of fitness necessary but it shows that you're putting at least some effort into it. I've seen literal amputees score a 270. Being in good physical shape is just about the easiest thing in the entire Army, because at some point they had standards and wouldn't let fat, worthless fuckups in. If you can't score a 180 and you aren't recovering from serious physical injury, it's time the military parted ways with you. That's not being motarded, that's not being bitter, that's a goddamn fact. It's like joining the NFL and not knowing how to play football. You don't have to be a natural athlete, you don't have to be some fitness superstar that spends 4 hours in the gym all day, you just have to not be a lazy sack of poo poo playing COD all day eating pizza in the barracks.
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Vasudus posted:
It was happening before the surge, too. Hell, when I was going through MEPS in 2002 it seemed like everyone had a waiver for something.
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Did this poo poo show of a workout yesterday: 500m row 50 pushups 30 hang cleans 155# (the version with the barf inducing front squat) 300x jump rope singles 30 deadlifts 155# (the easy part) 50 wall ball shots w/ 20# ball 500m row 24 minute time cap finished 82m shy of completing the whole thing on the final row. Then did a couple sets of pullups. after resting a good 10 minutes. Oh yeah I also squatted 315 for 18 reps the day before 
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Haven't done legs in three weeks before yesterday, this is me today irl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roqJSfDuWt4
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How long do you guys stretch for? Woke up to a hosed left shoulder and I rested yesterday, no problems until today. Currently doing about five minutes stretching and running a couple km, before and after. That's been sweet for the last ~forever but I've been maintaining a 5kg (usually 2.5kg, it's probably this but I'm interested in what others think) e; On second thought, that is a stupid question; just going to do it and find out. Interested to hear how long you guys stretch for though. Click Beelay fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Jun 11, 2014 |
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Usually 10-15 minutes before a workout and about the same after. I don't time myself, I just have a list of warmups/stretches, and usually take my time through it. Also, OHP is usually one of the slower lifts people improve on. Don't worry about it too much. Make sure you're hitting side and rear delts during your workout to balance you shoulder girdle, and hit the lats and shoulders pretty good during your warmup routine. hit 245x5 on bench today after some goofy crossfit workout that had a ton of shoulder work yesterday wooooord
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Real good poo poo, thanks. Delts and lats are sorted during accessory work but I've been back on a custom 5x5, based on SS, for a while (5/3/1 is for you intense motherfuckers who can handle full sets at 110kg on an off day, took me all of three-four weeks to realize that I'm not there yet) so they're also covered in the compounds. Shoulder's sweet now, dunno if it was the workout or the glenfiddich but 
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Are we talking static or dynamic stretching? 'Cause static stretching before pretty much any physical activity is a no-no. But warmup sets has worked pretty much fine for me over the past couple years, just the basic 5/3/1 style. 40% for 5, 50% for 5, 60% for 3, whatever the main compound is for 3x5 (1x5 deads). After the main compound it's just right into whatever else, unless I'm doing completely different body parts in the same workout like bench and squat, in which case I'd do the same warm-ups for squats too.
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Jun 11, 2014 12:27
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Im running way too much. I'm running 13:30 2 miles hungover.
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Ashmole posted:Im running way too much. I'm running 13:30 2 miles hungover. I wish I had your problems. 
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I use my warm up sets as a sort of dynamic stretching for the lift I'm doing on that given day. I start off light with sets of volume. I do this for about 5-6 sets before starting my working weights. So for something like deadlift, my warm up weights are from 150 lb to about 380 lb divided up between 5 or 6 sets. Seems to work alright for me.
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back squat 335 for reps got 17 Gonna have noodle legs for crossfit tomorrow
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Click Beelay posted:How long do you guys stretch for? Woke up to a hosed left shoulder and I rested yesterday, no problems until today. Currently doing about five minutes stretching and running a couple km, before and after. That's been sweet for the last ~forever but I've been maintaining a 5kg (usually 2.5kg, it's probably this but I'm interested in what others think) Late but here comes my armchair athletic trainer post Shoulders are loving delicate. Especially once injured. Don't gently caress around with your shoulders. Warm that poo poo up before lifting and obviously do your proper warmup lifts for poo poo like benchpress or overhead press. The most important stretching is dynamic, static, and PNF. There are a ton of different types of stretching but that's all you should really care about. Static is what you're used to. Dynamic is things like leg swings and such. Dynamic is usually part of a warmup and static should never be done when you're cold and only at the end of workouts. There's evidence that static stretching before a workout decreases your strength. If you must static before at least do a warmup. You should always warmup before you start lifting. 3-5 minutes of biking and some dynamic stretching should be good. PNF stretching is arguably the most effective form of stretching. You shouldn't do it more than 3 times a week as it is seen as a form of strength training. There's different guidelines you'll find online. Ideally you'd do it with a partner or towel or band or some poo poo. Anyways, you stretch for 20 seconds or so and then flex against the resistance/contract the muscles/area being stretched for 3-6 seconds, relax, and then go deeper into the stretch. Repeat this 3-4 times per stretch. You should always hold a stretch for 15-30 seconds. From what I've read there's been no proven benefit of holding for longer than 30. But go for at least 30. I'd do each stretch 2-4 times holding for at least 30 seconds. If you got general shoulder aches you might want to look into something like a knobble for hitting those spots. Also doubles as a buttplug http://www.amazon.com/The-Original-Knobble-Massager-Stimulator/dp/B000NWBKIQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1402701815&sr=8-1&keywords=knobble or something like this http://www.amazon.com/Body-Back-Company-10100000003-Buddy/dp/B0006VJ6TO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1402701855&sr=8-3&keywords=theracane or maybe a lacrosse ball to use on a wall Nostalgia4Dogges fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Jun 14, 2014 |
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holocaust bloopers posted:I use my warm up sets as a sort of dynamic stretching for the lift I'm doing on that given day. I start off light with sets of volume. I do this for about 5-6 sets before starting my working weights. Christoff posted:Late but here comes my armchair athletic trainer post Cool, thanks for that. Shoulders were sweet after the workout following that post I made, think I was just being a pussy. Before and after a workout I run a couple km and do the same 30 seconds per stretch thing I've been doing since high school rugby plus some new lower body stretches I picked up from MMA, I guess that's static stretching? Like you and holocaust bloopers suggested I do the standard (dynamic?) thing by doing warm up sets of every exercise at 45%/65%/85%. Will read up on the different types of stretching when I get home, always just assumed stretching was stretching but what you say makes sense. If the shoulder pain comes up again I'll skip the pre-workout static stuff and try more delts/lats accessory work before considering buying something like those, can see the merit though. elite_garbage_man posted:back squat 335 for reps You are loving crazy, great stuff.
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Click Beelay posted:Cool, thanks for that. Shoulders were sweet after the workout following that post I made, think I was just being a pussy. Yeah static stretching is the typical touch your toes and hold. Static stretching is fine and you can do it whenever but you should always do it once you're warmed up and ideally after a workout. I mean if you want to do it before doing something like rugby I suppose that's fine. But for strength training it's best for after. Some form of dynamic stretches should always be part of your warmup. Also never bounce in a stretch. Here's a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7ghNKOH9To As far as warming up before a lift I just use a warmup calculator app on my phone. Just warmup for all the major compound lifts. quote:The idea, for all lifts except the dead lift, is to take your working weight minus the bar (20kg/45 lbs) and use this as the weight to add. Then follow the scheme below: There's a ton of webbased warmup calculators you can use from your computer or home too. If you're looking for flexibility PNF is best. That gives the most results faster. Although it's tough to do by yourself but you still can just using your own resistance or a stretching band. This is a pretty popular warmup program, Agile 8 http://www.t-nation.com/training/defranco-agile-8 but now it goes to 11 http://www.defrancostraining.com/ask-joe/44-flexibilitymobility/302-joe-ds-qlimber-11q-flexibility-routine.html Nostalgia4Dogges fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Jun 14, 2014 |
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work on 1rm for front squat 45x10 135x3 225x2 315x1 335x1 365x1 called it here because of the conditioning workout that lay ahead 400m run (ran together) 60 partner wall ball shots 20# (only alternating exercise of the day, 30x reps perperson) 150x jump rope per person 40x 75# shoulder press per person 30x jump squats per person 400m row per person done with a partner, and each person completes the exercise before alternating finished in 12 minutes flat including the time it took my workout buddy.
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My favorite one is at 1:38. It's the lack of drama that makes it so precious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74Xek-pDLM
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A lot earlier in this thread there was the link for the article "Why army wants me weak?" and it was about the importance of strength training for modern warfare. I've been watching the documentaries "Two weeks in hell" and "surviving the cut" and most of the PT that any of the people did in any of the episodes was running, swimming and calisthenics, and they did that poo poo a lot. I've also been reading Mark Lauren's "You are your own gym" bodyweight fitness book and the author is a Navy Seal and he preaches on calisthenics. How come the article and all that special forces stuff are opposites of each other? I understand that a nomal soldier's job is very different from those other guys, but still, why such bare bones training is enough for these green beret dudes but regular soldiers are in need of heavy lifting? I think the only people who werte mentioned of lifting weights were the PJs, but there were no footage of them with barbells or anything.
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You can't just base off what special ops dudes do on a fluff documentary showing trainees in the earliest stages of their respective career fields.
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ManOfTheYear posted:A lot earlier in this thread there was the link for the article "Why army wants me weak?" and it was about the importance of strength training for modern warfare. I've been watching the documentaries "Two weeks in hell" and "surviving the cut" and most of the PT that any of the people did in any of the episodes was running, swimming and calisthenics, and they did that poo poo a lot. I've also been reading Mark Lauren's "You are your own gym" bodyweight fitness book and the author is a Navy Seal and he preaches on calisthenics. The strength based stuff was more about practical needs of regular soldiers. Carrying heavy stuff, getting up and over walls, being blown up etc.
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Depends on your MOS really. As a tanker, running is just a time waster...weights (and donuts) are more beneficial to us due to having to carry rounds, move stuff onto the tank, and having to pull people out of it.
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CAP Barbell Olympic 2-Inch 45lb plate for $35 http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3643699
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ummm... that's a girl's bike, dude
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I have a similar curling station
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holocaust bloopers posted:You got a place to deadlift? Yeah I just move the squat stands. Don't have a platform yet PLANES CURE TOWERS posted:ummm... that's a girl's bike, dude You know I have like 200 kids right? elite_garbage_man posted:I have a similar curling station C'mon man! Serious talk, I'm almost 40 and I had to take two months of rest so I could get rid of a nagging back injury. I'm actually trying 5/3/1 and I used a pretty conservative 1RM to start off with.
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Horse stall mats dude. Cheap way to do that. That bar of yours might tear the gently caress out of your shins on account of the knurling being so tight towards the center. 5/3/1 is pretty cool. I may go back to it now that I've had 3 years of solid lifting done. I started it way too early. If I had some sweet sweet officer pay, I'd get one of these. http://www.roguefitness.com/bar-jack The powerlifting gym I go to has one similar to that one. It's loving amazing. I'm certain you could make one yourself. bloops fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Jul 16, 2014 |
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God drat I wish I could find a powerlifting gym. It's all  crossfit I mean I guess that's where the money is but still it's a bummer. I'd love to get properly coached in real Olympic lifting too but it seems all those gyms are gone or turned into crossfit outside of big cities.
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Christoff posted:God drat I wish I could find a powerlifting gym. It's all Some CF gyms have olympic lifting coaches. Problem is that you'll still be paying the ludicrous CF gym fee. It's astonishing how those gyms get away with charging $100+ monthly fees.
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holocaust bloopers posted:Horse stall mats dude. Cheap way to do that. That bar of yours might tear the gently caress out of your shins on account of the knurling being so tight towards the center. 5/3/1 is pretty cool. I may go back to it now that I've had 3 years of solid lifting done. I started it way too early. Yah horse mats are the plan. And yes deads are going to be painful with that bar. I'm just excited to be lifting at home instead of the base gym so I'll just wear long socks and suck it up. I'm liking 5/3/1 so far because I find recovery to be easier using it.
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holocaust bloopers posted:Some CF gyms have olympic lifting coaches. Problem is that you'll still be paying the ludicrous CF gym fee. It's astonishing how those gyms get away with charging $100+ monthly fees. Haha are you kidding me? Look up your local "box" that poo poo is $200+ a month unless you do some loving 24 month commitment. I almost wanted to ask if I could just get a membership and do my own thing off in the corner but I never realized how expensive it was (how much is rent on an industrial warehouse and buying tires and some barbells and bumper plates?) and that also kinda goes against the whole crossfit thing. I have considered trying to seek out a professional coach somewhere and just get some good one on one so I can do my own thing
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vulturesrow posted:Yah horse mats are the plan. And yes deads are going to be painful with that bar. I'm just excited to be lifting at home instead of the base gym so I'll just wear long socks and suck it up. I forget. You're old and need the recovery:  Christoff posted:Haha are you kidding me? Look up your local "box" that poo poo is $200+ a month unless you do some loving 24 month commitment. CF is great at parting idiots from their money. 
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