Pokemon Megathread 6.0: You'd have to have mega stones to not play this.

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Momomo: Dec 26, 2009; Dont judge me, I design your manhole

The game itself has had a ridiculous power creep too though, just look at stuff like Megas. For a big community, I don't really see the harm in having a ruleset laid out like this, even if a few of their decisions are weird.

# ? Jul 13, 2014 16:46

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# ? May 25, 2024 16:21

The Golden Gael: Nov 12, 2011

mabels big day posted:

In my humble opinion, this is the way it ought to be.

I'm honestly certain we're going to be seeing other rulesets pop out soon that are far less ridiculous, swallowing up the void left by the people who drop Smogon. All they'll be good for is as a starting point for movesets, team ideas, etc.

I remember reading here once that one of their moderators threw a temper tantrum after losing on a simulator and that it's still around somewhere. Something about them only losing because of a low damage roll. this same person routinely makes smarmy replies if you disagree with literally anything. Definition of a big internet loser sitting on their jedi council or whatever they call themselves

# ? Jul 13, 2014 16:47

The Bee: Nov 25, 2012; Making his way to the ring . . .
from Deep in the Jungle . . .

The Big Monkey!

korusan posted:

I'm honestly certain we're going to be seeing other rulesets pop out soon that are far less ridiculous, swallowing up the void left by the people who drop Smogon. All they'll be good for is as a starting point for movesets, team ideas, etc.

I remember reading here once that one of their moderators threw a temper tantrum after losing on a simulator and that it's still around somewhere. Something about them only losing because of a low damage roll. this same person routinely makes smarmy replies if you disagree with literally anything. Definition of a big internet loser sitting on their jedi council or whatever they call themselves

Are we talking about the hilarious Energy Ball Jellicent meltdown? Because that was wonderful.

# ? Jul 13, 2014 16:50

The Golden Gael: Nov 12, 2011

The Bee posted:

Are we talking about the hilarious Energy Ball Jellicent meltdown? Because that was wonderful.

Nooo, I think it was actually this. Telling people how they should play and then still losing was another part of it

# ? Jul 13, 2014 16:52

JordanKai: Aug 19, 2011; Get high and think of me.

mabels big day posted:

They're just gonna start over for the oras meta game right? We're getting new megas so I would hope so

Christ, I sure hope so.

# ? Jul 13, 2014 17:04

razorrozar: Feb 21, 2012; by Cyrano4747

Momomo posted:

The game itself has had a ridiculous power creep too though, just look at stuff like Megas. For a big community, I don't really see the harm in having a ruleset laid out like this, even if a few of their decisions are weird.

I won't say it's a bad impulse. The metagame exists to make the real game fun to play, and that's brilliant. I just think it's overstepping the bounds of that, because there is no metagame if the fans disagree with it.

# ? Jul 13, 2014 17:08

PKMN Trainer Red: Oct 22, 2007

The main problem with Smogon is that you're playing Calvinball with their *~~Top 50 Trainers~~* and whatever wild hair gets up their asses.

# ? Jul 13, 2014 17:53

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

The Bee posted:

Are we talking about the hilarious Energy Ball Jellicent meltdown? Because that was wonderful.

Still love that meltdown. I'd love to see the actual battle.

# ? Jul 13, 2014 18:41

DrTempest: Dec 11, 2011; It's not cute. It's all very serious.

Instead of making more SR-type moves, how much would the meta be affected if you had to put two layers of SR out, like with Toxic Spikes? 1 layer does base 1/16th, 2 does what it does now?

I mean, as a competitive newbie, it seems that moves like SR are the major factor that has to be figured in, more than any other move, hell, even more than type advantages/disadvantages. It's a bit daunting.

# ? Jul 13, 2014 19:17

Blooming Brilliant: Jul 12, 2010

DrTempest posted:

Instead of making more SR-type moves, how much would the meta be affected if you had to put two layers of SR out, like with Toxic Spikes? 1 layer does base 1/16th, 2 does what it does now?

I mean, as a competitive newbie, it seems that moves like SR are the major factor that has to be figured in, more than any other move, hell, even more than type advantages/disadvantages. It's a bit daunting.

Not too drastically in my opinion, it would be used maybe slightly less but it would still be the only entry hazard able to punish switch in to Flying types, and while people always talk about the damage SR does one of the real traits of SR and even Spikes is the ability to break Focus Sashes and Sturdy which is a massive bonus and can shutdown some Pokemon entirely.

# ? Jul 13, 2014 19:31

Diet Poison: Jan 20, 2008; LICK MY ASS

Mega-Venusaur in doubles: Giga Drain/Sludge Bomb/Sleep Powder/Protect, or has anybody had luck with anything more exciting? Smogon doesn't have anything for doubles, and I feel like Synthesis won't be worth it in doubles. Same with breeding for HP- I feel like two STABs (one with a bit of healing) and a utility move, plus the required Protect, is probably the way to go. But I'd like to hear another opinion before I get to breeding.

# ? Jul 13, 2014 20:00

PSWII60: Jan 7, 2007; All the best octopodes shoot fire and ice.

So according to Smogon, Diance is released in Japan now? Anybody over there see anything about it yet?

# ? Jul 13, 2014 20:40

Pyroi: Aug 17, 2013; gay elf noises

Distribution for Diancie in Japan was July 6, and also from the 19th of July-Sept 30th.

# ? Jul 13, 2014 20:44

girl dick energy: Sep 30, 2009; You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Diet Poison posted:

Mega-Venusaur in doubles: Giga Drain/Sludge Bomb/Sleep Powder/Protect, or has anybody had luck with anything more exciting? Smogon doesn't have anything for doubles, and I feel like Synthesis won't be worth it in doubles. Same with breeding for HP- I feel like two STABs (one with a bit of healing) and a utility move, plus the required Protect, is probably the way to go. But I'd like to hear another opinion before I get to breeding.

I'm of the opinion, personally, that you'll almost never get to use Giga Drain, so I like to use a coverage move myself. HPs Ground and Fire are both really good for surprise KOs on Venusaur checks like Ferrothorn and whatnot. Technically, you can use EQ, too, but then you have to split between Atk and SpAtk and are vulnerable to burns.

# ? Jul 13, 2014 20:47

PSWII60: Jan 7, 2007; All the best octopodes shoot fire and ice.

Pyroi posted:

Distribution for Diancie in Japan was July 6, and also from the 19th of July-Sept 30th.

Ok thanks, I couldn't find anything on Google about it.

# ? Jul 13, 2014 20:47

less laughter: May 7, 2012; Accelerock & Roll

PSWII60 posted:

Ok thanks, I couldn't find anything on Google about it.

This is a handy page to bookmark for future reference (Diancie is at subsection 1.5).

# ? Jul 13, 2014 21:07

dungeon cousin: Nov 26, 2012; woop woop
loop loop

I'm not sure how the cheating devices work but with the official release of Diancie in Japan just about everyone I've seen has at least one. Over on the FB trade pages I've seen people trading away entire boxes of Diancie. I've seen a lot of English ones with the Japanese ones and a lot of them have the same IV spread. It's pretty funny seeing somebody grab a Diancie from a friend and then go to a trade page trying to get as many legends and shinies as they can for it only to see that everyone is also offering their thirty or so Diancie.

# ? Jul 13, 2014 22:06

Silver Falcon: Dec 5, 2005; Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight and barbecue your own drumsticks!

Pyroi posted:

Distribution for Diancie in Japan was July 6, and also from the 19th of July-Sept 30th.

When is NA getting it? I think there was something about it at the end of a Direct or something but I forget.

# ? Jul 13, 2014 22:11

free basket of chips: Sep 7, 2012; by FactsAreUseless

korusan posted:

In honour of the German football team making it to the World Cup Finals (and hopefully winning) I hatched this sexy shining Aegislash in my team's colours this morning. I hope it's an omen.

Man I wish I could predict the next Superbowl by hatching pokemon. Congrats on the victory and the shiny.

# ? Jul 13, 2014 22:40

Crosspeice: Aug 9, 2013

Silver Falcon posted:

When is NA getting it? I think there was something about it at the end of a Direct or something but I forget.

Around when Movie 17 is released in NA, so hopefully October or Novemeber, if Movie 16 is to be the norm. (The dub is getting real quick these days)

# ? Jul 13, 2014 23:04

Immer: Aug 11, 2009; It's what they were born for.
They serve no other purpose in life.
Keep doing what you're doing.

Red Suit posted:

Man I wish I could predict the next Superbowl by hatching pokemon. Congrats on the victory and the shiny.

Time to hatch a shiny Talonflame so the Falcons can bring a ring home.

# ? Jul 13, 2014 23:12

Crosscontaminant: Jan 18, 2007

korusan posted:

I know so many people sick of Smogon's poo poo that in my circle of friends we don't even use Smogon tiering anymore. Basically box legendaries and similarly overpowered event legends (Darkrai, Arceus, etc) are banned and that's all

This still leaves the really clearly overpowered Megas - Kangaskhan, Gengar, Lucario. I think the problem is Smogon doesn't have any clear idea of when it's time to stop suspect-testing and let things settle, because the game will never reach a state of balance. The only reason for the lull is because the Swagger and Baton Pass stuff was effectively a distraction - they weren't things that naturally stood out in the usage data but which were determined through theoretical analysis and turned out to be too resilient to organic counterplay.

# ? Jul 13, 2014 23:14

Boogalo: Jul 8, 2012; Meep Meep

Cerony posted:

I'm not sure how the cheating devices work but with the official release of Diancie in Japan just about everyone I've seen has at least one. Over on the FB trade pages I've seen people trading away entire boxes of Diancie. I've seen a lot of English ones with the Japanese ones and a lot of them have the same IV spread. It's pretty funny seeing somebody grab a Diancie from a friend and then go to a trade page trying to get as many legends and shinies as they can for it only to see that everyone is also offering their thirty or so Diancie.

Powersaves does have a code for diancie, but it is marked as fake and says it is made from info on bulbapaedia and not a direct copy of the event distribution card and pokemon. In any other cases, these event created mons are indistinguishable from the ones received from he actual event so when it finally comes out here, the actual stats/moves/nature/ball/ribbons, etc may be different. I'm backing up my cart now to check it out.

# ? Jul 13, 2014 23:17

fade5: May 31, 2012; by exmarx

Crosscontaminant posted:

This still leaves the really clearly overpowered Megas - Kangaskhan, Gengar, Lucario. I think the problem is Smogon doesn't have any clear idea of when it's time to stop suspect-testing and let things settle, because the game will never reach a state of balance. The only reason for the lull is because the Swagger and Baton Pass stuff was effectively a distraction - they weren't things that naturally stood out in the usage data but which were determined through theoretical analysis and turned out to be too resilient to organic counterplay.

This, right here, I mean god drat, the Deoxys-D/S ban literally just came down a couple days ago, and they're already doing another suspect test. Seriously, wait two or three months for the metagame to settle and then see if anything's still dominating.

Also RIP Deoxys-D/S.

I'm kinda irritated because the ban was basically for the Screens/Hazards sets, aka "muh Stealth Rock and Spikes", and Deoxys-S ended up in the crossfire. I don't give a gently caress about hazards, give me my Revenge Killer set back; I like my outspeeding everything and nuking poo poo with Psycho Boost/Superpower/Ice Beam. :mad:

And seriously, an Aegislash suspect test? If they really wanted a suspect test, it would have made more sense at the beginning rather than now. For Aegislash checks, Fire and Dark Pokemon in general are good since Aegislash doesn't want to eat STAB moves from either of them, and of course there's Earthquake. King's Shield is good, but it's not going to let Aegislash survive forever, and it can even backfire if your opponent uses it to setup a Swords Dance/Nasty Plot/etc.

If you want a really nice check: Sacred Fire Entei. Sacred Fire hurts like gently caress, has a 50% chance to burn, and doesn't make contact, because gently caress you, that's why. :getin:

# ? Jul 14, 2014 02:56

Crosscontaminant: Jan 18, 2007

fade5 posted:

I'm kinda irritated because the ban was basically for the Screens/Hazards sets, aka "muh Stealth Rock and Spikes", and Deoxys-S ended up in the crossfire. I don't give a gently caress about hazards, give me my Revenge Killer set back; I like my outspeeding everything and nuking poo poo with Psycho Boost/Superpower/Ice Beam.

What hurts me the most is the loss of viable rain inducers. It used to be that it didn't matter that Politoed and Ninetales suck so long as they stayed alive long enough to win the weather war, but now you need weather inducers that can stick around and take a beating. Sun has multiple options - Mega Charizard Y is the main choice, Ninetales is still around, and Cresselia synergises well due to Morning Sun - but rain basically only had Politoed and Deoxys. Now everything is going to rely on keeping Politoed alive, which means the dismal ultrapassive RestTalk set putting a massive brake on an offensive rain team.

# ? Jul 14, 2014 03:13

Frkzd: Jun 9, 2014

fade5 posted:

I don't give a gently caress about hazards, give me my Revenge Killer set back...

Ditto sweep. Why this pink little blob hasn't been suspect / �bered I'll never know. It's the only revenge killer I've ever needed and the only constant on my team since the introduction of Imposter.

fade5 posted:

King's Shield is good, but it's not going to let Aegislash survive forever, and it can even backfire if your opponent uses it to setup a Swords Dance/Nasty Plot/etc.

And I couldn't agree more with this statement right here. I try to avoid as much predictability as I can, yet everyone I've seen with Aegislash uses King's Shield every other move without fail.

Smogon is just wearing kiddy gloves.

# ? Jul 14, 2014 03:58

WrightOfWay: Jul 24, 2010

Mega Scizor seems like an interesting rain setter if you have a mega slot open. 80/140/100 bulk makes it tougher on the physical side and nearly as bulky specially as Deoxys-D but with actual offensive presence and defensive typing. Not having Damp Rock hurts but with Politoed and maybe having Rain Dance on one of your offensive threats it can still get the job done.

# ? Jul 14, 2014 04:09

Fajita Queen: Jun 21, 2012

korusan posted:

I'm honestly certain we're going to be seeing other rulesets pop out soon that are far less ridiculous, swallowing up the void left by the people who drop Smogon. All they'll be good for is as a starting point for movesets, team ideas, etc.

I remember reading here once that one of their moderators threw a temper tantrum after losing on a simulator and that it's still around somewhere. Something about them only losing because of a low damage roll. this same person routinely makes smarmy replies if you disagree with literally anything. Definition of a big internet loser sitting on their jedi council or whatever they call themselves

That would be ginganinja, one of the shittiest mods I've had the misfortune of ever encountering on an internet forum. He's one step below Aatrek, basically.

# ? Jul 14, 2014 04:16

buddychrist10: Nov 4, 2009; Obtuse.....even hokey.

The Bee posted:

Are we talking about the hilarious Energy Ball Jellicent meltdown? Because that was wonderful.

What's the story behind that?

# ? Jul 14, 2014 04:50

Fajita Queen: Jun 21, 2012

It was pretty drat funny. A Smogon Moderator / Pokemon Online (the simulator at the time) Admin named Somalia lost to someone using Energy Ball on a Jellicent and went completely apeshit, deciding to ban every single user on the smogon server of Pokemon Online.

Some IRC logs:

quote:

[05:48] <Somalia> NO
[05:48] <Somalia> gently caress THIS
[05:48] <Somalia> i swr to god
[05:48] <Somalia> us ee randoms
[05:48] <Somalia> using the supidest poo poo ever
[05:48] <Somalia> ppl using jelliecent energy ball
[05:48] <Somalia> why
[05:48] <Somalia> the gently caress
[05:48] <Somalia> do they
[05:48] <Somalia> tired of this shitass game

quote:

<Somalia> im a rogue now
<Somalia> im banned
<aziki> you fool
<Somalia> everywhere
<aziki> why did you not tell me about this
<Somalia> lmfao
<Somalia> i killed
<Somalia> everyone
<Somalia> i became
<Somalia> sauske uchiha

quote:

[2011-06-15 13::37:19] Somalia: idgaf
[2011-06-15 13::37:21] Somalia: im taking my anger
[2011-06-15 13::37:26] Somalia: on the whle forum
[2011-06-15 13::37:27] Somalia: so i can get banned
[2011-06-15 13::38:21] Symphonyx64: okay
[2011-06-15 13::38:24] Symphonyx64: i'll get that arranged
[2011-06-15 13::38:44] yondie: NO
[2011-06-15 13::38:46] yondie: LOL
[2011-06-15 13::38:56] yondie: LOL
[2011-06-15 13::39:52] Somalia: Go for it u son of a bitch:)
[2011-06-15 13::40:24] Symphonyx64: okay
[2011-06-15 13::41:17] Symphonyx64: I'm talking to haunter right now somalia
[2011-06-15 13::41:31] Somalia: i dont give a poo poo
[2011-06-15 13::41:57] Symphonyx64: calm down somalia
[2011-06-15 13::42:21] Somalia: YES
[2011-06-15 13::42:23] Somalia: SOME1 BANNED ME
[2011-06-15 13::42:29] Symphonyx64: LMAO
[2011-06-15 13::42:30] yondie: SOMALIA
[2011-06-15 13::42:31] yondie: JUST STOP
[2011-06-15 13::42:33] yondie: HOLY gently caress
[2011-06-15 13::42:33] Symphonyx64: you got banned
[2011-06-15 13::42:35] yondie: THINK
[2011-06-15 13::42:42] Somalia: no...
[2011-06-15 13::42:46] Somalia: this is good very good
[2011-06-15 13::42:49] Somalia: shame it couldnt be a longer
[2011-06-15 13::42:50] Somalia: ban
[2011-06-15 13::42:55] Somalia: ok time to ban evry1
[2011-06-15 13::42:55] Somalia: on po
[2011-06-15 13::42:57] Somalia: i think
[2011-06-15 13::43:06] yondie: no
[2011-06-15 13::43:06] yondie: stop
[2011-06-15 13::43:10] Somalia: lets see how many i ban before u can tatt tale on me little ben
[2011-06-15 13::43:52] Somalia: whos next
[2011-06-15 13::44:02] Symphonyx64: WTF
[2011-06-15 13::44:33] Symphonyx64: DUDE
[2011-06-15 13::44:36] Symphonyx64: GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF
[2011-06-15 13::45:15] Symphonyx64: omg
[2011-06-15 13::45:18] Symphonyx64: you loving bitch
[2011-06-15 13::45:26] yondie: dude
[2011-06-15 13::45:28] yondie: somalia
[2011-06-15 13::45:30] yondie: get a grip
[2011-06-15 13::45:34] yondie: ur ruining urself
[2011-06-15 13::45:36] yondie: what will you do now

[2011-06-15 13::46:46] Somalia: ugh
[2011-06-15 13::46:47] Somalia: i am muted
[2011-06-15 13::46:48] Somalia: for 4 mins
[2011-06-15 13::46:49] Somalia: ok
[2011-06-15 13::46:51] Somalia: after that
[2011-06-15 13::46:53] Somalia: im banning
[2011-06-15 13::46:54] Somalia: everyone
[2011-06-15 13::46:55] Somalia: bye bye
[2011-06-15 13::46:56] Somalia: losers

[2011-06-15 13::48:20] Somalia: ill just get my freind
[2011-06-15 13::48:20] Somalia: to hack
[2011-06-15 13::48:22] Somalia: the server
[2011-06-15 13::48:32] Somalia: so
[2011-06-15 13::48:33] Somalia: be prepared
[2011-06-15 13::48:34] Somalia: kids
[2011-06-15 13::50:40] Somalia: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[2011-06-15 13::50:43] Somalia: watch what ill do
[2011-06-15 13::50:47] Somalia: to this loving
[2011-06-15 13::50:49] Somalia: community

[2011-06-15 13::56:56] Somalia: THIS FEELS GOOD
[2011-06-15 13::56:58] Somalia: i SHOULDVE
[2011-06-15 13::56:59] Somalia: DONE IT
[2011-06-15 13::57:00] Somalia: EARLIER

[2011-06-15 13::58:06] Somalia: POKEMON
[2011-06-15 13::58:09] Somalia: IS THE SATANS
[2011-06-15 13::58:09] Somalia: WORK
[2011-06-15 13::58:12] Somalia: U GUYS
[2011-06-15 13::58:13] Somalia: SHOULD QUIT IT
[2011-06-15 13::58:14] Somalia: ALSO

[2011-06-15 13::59:03] Symphonyx64: Mekkah: so did the food shortage in africa finally get to SOMALIA's head or something
[2011-06-15 13::59:30] Symphonyx64: Bluewind: i think he freaked because he played an energy ball jellicent
[2011-06-15 13::59:30] Somalia: typical smogon
[2011-06-15 13::59:31] Somalia: lowlifes
[2011-06-15 13::59:38] Somalia: u ppl
[2011-06-15 13::59:39] Somalia: r pathetic
[2011-06-15 14::00:46] Somalia: IM THE KING

[2011-06-15 14::09:58] Somalia: ben ur a good freind
[2011-06-15 14::10:00] Somalia: always watching out
[2011-06-15 14::10:00] Somalia: for me
[2011-06-15 14::10:01] Symphonyx64: thanks man
[2011-06-15 14::10:07] Somalia: if only
[2011-06-15 14::10:10] Somalia: i coulod reban u
[2011-06-15 14::10:12] Somalia:
[2011-06-15 14::10:13] Symphonyx64: ..........

[2011-06-15 14::15:02] Symphonyx64: man somalia
[2011-06-15 14::15:06] Symphonyx64: arent you sorry
[2011-06-15 14::15:08] Symphonyx64: at all
[2011-06-15 14::15:08] Symphonyx64: ?
[2011-06-15 14::15:11] Somalia: NAH
[2011-06-15 14::15:13] Somalia: this made me
[2011-06-15 14::15:15] Somalia: feel better
[2011-06-15 14::15:16] Somalia: then i thought
[2011-06-15 14::15:17] Somalia: i swr to god
[2011-06-15 14::15:30] Somalia: AHAHAAHA
[2011-06-15 14::15:31] Somalia: I GTO HALF OP
[2011-06-15 14::15:33] Somalia: ION WCOP
[2011-06-15 14::15:37] Somalia: who shall

[2011-06-15 14::19:36] Somalia:
[2011-06-15 14::19:46] Somalia: LOL
[2011-06-15 14::19:50] Somalia: my ban will be lifte don august
[2011-06-15 14::19:57] Somalia: wlel on spetmeber when im back from summer
[2011-06-15 14::19:58] Somalia: ill just
[2011-06-15 14::20:00] Somalia: do again
[2011-06-15 14::20:01] Somalia: but this time
[2011-06-15 14::20:02] Somalia: ill hack
[2011-06-15 14::20:03] Somalia: some ppls
[2011-06-15 14::20:07] Somalia: accounts
[2011-06-15 14::20:11] Symphonyx64: i swear
[2011-06-15 14::20:16] Symphonyx64: im just gonna get you banned
[2011-06-15 14::20:17] Symphonyx64: for 25 years

From #insidescoop

[2011-06-15 13::51:22] �� Somalia was granted voice by Porygon2.
[2011-06-15 13::51:24] Moo: aww
[2011-06-15 13::51:25] Somalia: MOTHERFUCKERS
[2011-06-15 13::51:26] Somalia: WUTS UP
[2011-06-15 13::51:29] Moo: sup
[2011-06-15 13::51:31] Dracoyoshi8: hi
[2011-06-15 13::51:31] iss: not much
[2011-06-15 13::51:34] FREE_MY_NIKKA_CARCHOMP: yeah just ban him this looks simple.
[2011-06-15 13::51:34] Somalia: THE SKY
[2011-06-15 13::51:39] iss: you?
[2011-06-15 13::51:39] Somalia: WHY
[2011-06-15 13::51:40] Somalia: I LOVE U
[2011-06-15 13::51:41] Somalia: LOT
[2011-06-15 13::51:47] Moo: why you mad mate?
[2011-06-15 13::51:49] Somalia: IF I DDINT LOVE U
[2011-06-15 13::51:50] Somalia: ID BAN EVRY1
[2011-06-15 13::51:52] Somalia: FORM LONG TIME
[2011-06-15 13::51:53] Somalia: AGO
[2011-06-15 13::51:54] Somalia: BELEIVE ME
[2011-06-15 13::51:55] �� WEEGEE101 is now known as folgorio.
[2011-06-15 13::51:57] DougJustDoug: Cut the caps
[2011-06-15 13::51:57] Haunter: symph I unbanned you
[2011-06-15 13::51:59] FREE_MY_NIKKA_CARCHOMP: wow just shut up.
[2011-06-15 13::51:59] �� Jibaku is now known as JibaNOTHERE.
[2011-06-15 13::52:01] folgorio: folgorio is dissapointed
[2011-06-15 13::52:01] Symphonyx64: thanks haunter
[2011-06-15 13::52:03] Somalia: LMFAO
[2011-06-15 13::52:04] Somalia: DUDE
[2011-06-15 13::52:06] �� Haunter set a ban on *!*@synIRC-33CD0830.hari.cable.virginmedia.com.
[2011-06-15 13::52:06] Somalia: DONT MAKE
[2011-06-15 13::52:07] Somalia: ME
[2011-06-15 13::52:09] �� zdrup15 was granted voice by Porygon2.
[2011-06-15 13::52:09] Somalia: do
[2011-06-15 13::52:12] �� Somalia was kicked from the chat room by Haunter.

# ? Jul 14, 2014 04:56

Blaziken386: Jun 27, 2013; I'm what the kids call: a big nerd

The Shortest Path posted:

Somalia going apeshit

Oh my god, that's amazing.

# ? Jul 14, 2014 05:05

ungulateman: Apr 18, 2012; pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

fade5 posted:

This, right here, I mean god drat, the Deoxys-D/S ban literally just came down a couple days ago, and they're already doing another suspect test. Seriously, wait two or three months for the metagame to settle and then see if anything's still dominating.

This is very true - and they used to take a lot more time with their suspect tests. I was a ~smogonfag~ back during Gen 4 and the start of Gen 5, and the major differences between then and now are:

- Only people who actually knew what the hell they were doing got involved in the suspect process. Most of the mods were good at Pokemon, good at moderating, and they ran a good ship.

- It took a lot more effort to get into simulator play, so there were far less people on Smogon. The community was a hell of a lot better back then.

Nowadays Smogon's filled with the same idiots that inhabit every other Pokemon fansite (eg Serebii), but it also gets the super-special sperglords who wouldn't have slipped under the radar back when there were ~2000 members and a mod staff appropriate to that number.

Someone's going to mention the Salamence ban, I'm sure, but they put a lot more thought and due process into that than any other ban in Gen 4. It was by no means a rushed decision like their more recent dumb bans have been.

# ? Jul 14, 2014 05:06

Fajita Queen: Jun 21, 2012

The gen 4 Salamence ban actually made sense, kind of like the Mega Lucario ban - It was way too loving versatile, and you had to gamble basically your entire team on predicting which set it was running. It was fine for the time it worked in.

And yeah, I too remember smogon when it was (slightly) less lovely. It's a shame it got really popular and didn't keep up with that popularity effectively.

# ? Jul 14, 2014 05:21

Kurieg: Jul 19, 2012; RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20

The Shortest Path posted:

It was pretty drat funny. A Smogon Moderator / Pokemon Online (the simulator at the time) Admin named Somalia lost to someone using Energy Ball on a Jellicent and went completely apeshit, deciding to ban every single user on the smogon server of Pokemon Online.

Some IRC logs:

I was hunting these down and found this on the smogon forums.

quote:

<Somalia> im a rogue now
<Somalia> im banned
<aziki> you fool
<Somalia> everywhere
<aziki> why did you not tell me about this
<Somalia> lmfao
<Somalia> i killed
<Somalia> everyone
<Somalia> i became
<Somalia> sauske uchiha

It's sad that 3 years ago they were laughing off the idiots who suggested things like this and today they'd probably ban Jellecent beacause it's coverage skews the metagame.

# ? Jul 14, 2014 06:55

Improbable Lobster: Jan 6, 2012; "From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.; Buglord

The Shortest Path posted:

It was pretty drat funny. A Smogon Moderator / Pokemon Online (the simulator at the time) Admin named Somalia lost to someone using Energy Ball on a Jellicent and went completely apeshit, deciding to ban every single user on the smogon server of Pokemon Online.

Some IRC logs:

drat, he got mad enough to become an anime

# ? Jul 14, 2014 07:03

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

yondie posted:

[2011-06-15 13::45:34] yondie: ur ruining urself

Still my favorite line.

Kurieg posted:

I was hunting these down and found this on the smogon forums.

It's sad that 3 years ago they were laughing off the idiots who suggested things like this and today they'd probably ban Jellecent beacause it's coverage skews the metagame.

Hahahaha

# ? Jul 14, 2014 14:20