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priznat posted:Is Videotron = Quebecor? Because I immediately thought oh this is how Quebecor breaks in and immediately becomes as giant and lovely as the other big 3. The big 4th. Uh yeah Quebecor is wayyyy ahead of you on this. Hell they might even be ahead of Rogers and Bell on owning the content that they provide. Just for kicks, I'm going to unironically quote this Wikipedia paragraph of Telus' acquisition of Clearnet, which got them into Ontario: "In the 1999-2000 period, Telus acquired the high-performing Scarborough, Ontario based cellular company Clearnet Communications through merger, which gave it a foothold in the highly competitive central Canadian market in Ontario and Quebec, Canada's largest provinces in terms of population. The company had its origins in nearby Pickering, Ontario, and was by 1997 outperforming the other Toronto/Ontario-based cellular companies. Its phones were easily available at various retailers, and its marketing was fresh and innovative at the time, emphasizing bold, uncluttered simplicity (a concept gaining popularity today), and a bright future outlook through its nature and animals motifs." Yeah... maybe that was true in 1999. gently caress if I can remember what the landscape was like then. I do recall Koodo, Virgin and Fido being competitive for a year or two each before they became lame off-brands for the big 3.
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I look back on Clearnet fondly, I think they were the only ones offering unlimited airtime at the time. Unfortunately the coverage kind of sucked especially in buildings but they were pretty cool. And the ads were nice too before Telus took them over. Also re Quebecor I was thinking more this auction is a way for them to load up on spectrum because they aren't an incumbent per se, even though it is meant for the "little guys", which they definitely are not.
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At this point, I'm just so tired of Kim Jong Il's (Rogers, natch) bullshit that seeing it replaced by Kim Jong Un's (Quebecor) bullshit actually looks like a refreshing change. Canadian Cellular: Like Animal Farm if You Removed the Hope Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Jul 7, 2014 |
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Canadian mobile prices higher than peers, report saysquote:...when compared with mobile pricing plans in other countries, Canadas international ranking worsened slightly, the study found. Which of the Big Three will make excuses for the industry first? "Oh, it's because Canada is so big! Infrastructure is expensive! We needed more blood for the blood god!"
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JohnnyCanuck posted:Canadian mobile prices higher than peers, report says At least now we can make the counter-argument that Australia is more spread out with worse infrastructure, and still has better plans than we do. ... Fffffuuuck. 
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I just ported away from Rogers (before end of contract) and received my final bill. It shows a device subsidy charge as well as a final-gently caress-you called a "Service Deactivation Fee" of $12.50, which is a new one to me. Is it worth protesting this? It's a small amount of money for the corresponding hit to my blood pressure when I phone them, but it annoys me to no end that they continue to invent fees out of thin air and charge them with impunity.
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Lexicon posted:I just ported away from Rogers (before end of contract) and received my final bill. It shows a device subsidy charge as well as a final-gently caress-you called a "Service Deactivation Fee" of $12.50, which is a new one to me. Holy poo poo, I never knew about that one. Checking Google shows that this fee applies to anyone who isn't in Manitoba or Quebec (presumably due to stricter mobility laws) and is charged whenever you cancel your service before your contract is up. So yeah, they're actually creating an extra fee to break a contract. Wow. Anyhow, this appears to be a part of Rogers official terms and conditions, making the fee legally "legitimate" in the eyes of Rogers, which would mean that protesting it would be about as fruitful as protesting your regular cancellation fees. So I really doubt you'd get anywhere with it. Maybe the CCTS might help since people have had luck getting out of having to pay for the 30 day cancellation notice. OilSlick fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Jul 21, 2014 |
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They didn't charge the extra 30 days at least, so it's progress of a sort. I'm considering doing the CCTS thing purely out of spite - this was for a contract that I renewed on the phone (device broke mid contract), so as far as I can tell there was never even an opportunity to be notified that this charge exists. I asked them for my device subsidy balance prior to cancelled and they didn't mention the existence of this fee.
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Anyone have any experience with Magicjack/Ooma/etc.? My signal at home is miserable but my phone is on a corporate plan so One Number isn't an option. I'm tired of having to take calls on the front porch.
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My girlfriend is looking to get a Samsung Galaxy S5. Which of these shitfucker companies are offering the least extortionate plan? Rogers is quoting $150 for the phone, and $50/month for 5GB data over a 3 year contract.
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$50/month for 5GB data, all in? That is a crazy good deal. Are you sure that isn't on top of $60/month for the smartphone? Rogers' in market plans are currently $60/month as a base 'smartphone fee' plus an additional $20/month - $105/month for data buckets (500MB - 15GB) edit: Since you mentioned 3 year contract, is this a corporate plan offering?
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DarkJC posted:$50/month for 5GB data, all in? That is a crazy good deal. It's some sort of public sector plan, yeah. Thanks for the input.
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I'll second that "crazy good deal" Sweetling. I pay $84 per month on a Rogers corporate plan with 6 gigs and that's considered better than most.
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I'm at $56 for 6gigs... and phone stuff that I don't care about because who uses their phone as a phone anyway? I'd drop the extra gig for $50 though.
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Aphrodite posted:Anyone have any experience with Magicjack/Ooma/etc.? MagicJack is a pretty good cheap alternative to a landline. The call quality is good if you have a decent broadband connection and I never had any dropped calls. Good luck getting a number ported over though because they are poo poo at it (I'd recommend against it anyway because if for any reason you cancel your service they keep your number and prevent you from porting it elsewhere). Also I hear that their customer service is loving terrible though I never had to deal with that myself. They also do a thing where they e-mail you the voice messages in a .wav file if you miss calls. So... yeah. e: also if your internet connection or power goes out, you're hosed yellowcar fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Jul 23, 2014 |
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My landline has been dead for over a year, I have no number to port anyway. I've been looking at Ooma since all the reviews seem to say it's much higher quality.
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Aphrodite posted:Anyone have any experience with Magicjack/Ooma/etc.? https://www.freephoneline.ca. It's either $4.95/month or $50 for the unlock key (if you already have your own adapter). My old Samsung Galaxy S had lovely reception in my house and I was constantly missing/dropping calls. I would always forward my cell to my home phone when I was at home. Worked great and it' handy to have a home phone line available.
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Hi friends. I'm going to be in Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal for a few weeks in August from the US. I have an AT&T Samsung Galaxy S3 with an unlock code, and I want to avoid paying AT&T's ridiculous fees for service in Canada, but I'm having a pretty hard time figuring out what my pre-paid options are. Data would be nice but isn't necessary. Voice is most important. It sounds like Rogers and WIND are the carriers who use GSM that may work. Can anyone familiar with this help me out?
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Check out Koodo or Speakout. Depending on how long you are staying and what your needs are, one may be better than the other. http://koodomobile.com/en/on/plansandboosters.shtml http://www.speakout7eleven.ca/prepaid-cell-phone-rates I'm currently using Koodo's $15 base plan and buy booster minutes and data as needed. Very inexpensive for my needs.
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So this is what I have now:  Is there anything better that would justify buying out the remaining contract? I think it's $160 or so but now I can't find where I saw that. I do go up to northern Ontario every now and then but usually don't get a very good signal. The first post seems to tell me that it's better to stick with Bell then? Also, why does the phone have the LTE icon in the lower left yet the network says HSPA?
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PS. Love the cabin posted:Also, why does the phone have the LTE icon in the lower left yet the network says HSPA? I think this is some side effect of the Bell "My Account" panel. I'm on Virgin (which is Bell and uses the same backend) and my account also says my phone "runs on the HSPA network" even though it's an iPhone 5 with LTE and definitely uses LTE just fine.
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I think if you buyout your plan they would actually force you up to $80 for a new smartphone.
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PS. Love the cabin posted:
If you're ever in Thunder Bay for any amount of time, get your address set to Thunder Bay and get their plan on Bell. Otherwise you'll need an $80 plan minimum for 500 megs of data. 
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Godinster posted:If you're ever in Thunder Bay for any amount of time, get your address set to Thunder Bay and get their plan on Bell. Otherwise you'll need an $80 plan minimum for 500 megs of data. I think you may need to have your phone number set to a Thunder Bay area number. I don't think the address has anything to do with it as when an employee changes your address there is no opportunity to modify your plan at the same time, so it never requires a change. However, when changing someone's phone number, it occasionally will force the employee to change your plan. That said, if you can change your phone number that plan definitely looks worth it. As for the HSPA thing, it probably says that because that's the minimum type of network it runs. LTE isn't everywhere, but a SIM card phone will still run on HSPA if LTE is not available. It's not really saying your phone does not run LTE, it's saying that your phone is not CDMA, just in case you didn't know that (some people don't know the difference)
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OilSlick posted:I think you may need to have your phone number set to a Thunder Bay area number. I don't think the address has anything to do with it as when an employee changes your address there is no opportunity to modify your plan at the same time, so it never requires a change. However, when changing someone's phone number, it occasionally will force the employee to change your plan. That said, if you can change your phone number that plan definitely lo Good point. Almost all plans have unlimited Long Distance anyway at this point, though. When I move out of SK I'll definitely keep my 306 number for the ridiculously good plans here comparatively.
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Why does Fido offer different priced plans for different Provinces? I'm on a $55, 5 GB, Unlimited Canada wide calling, unlimited text. I brought my own device, so I saved 10%. So I'm at $49.50 for 5 GB data and unlimited calling with Call Display and Voice mail in Manitoba. Pretty lovely that Ontario doesn't offer the same plan. Ontario is $75 for the similar plan but only 2 GB data, instead of 5.
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Because there's competition in Manitoba/Saskatchewan in the form of MTS/Sasktel that actually force the Big 3 to compete. Ontario has no such luxury. Only Thunder Bay gets semi-competitive plans here.
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DarkJC posted:Because there's competition in Manitoba/Saskatchewan in the form of MTS/Sasktel that actually force the Big 3 to compete. Ontario has no such luxury. Only Thunder Bay gets semi-competitive plans here. More importantly, the competition is entrenched. MTS and Sasktel (and TBayTel to a lesser extent) have the "former government monopoly" advantages that Telus (formerly AGT+BCTel) has in AB/BC and Bell has in most of the rest of the country, so they can't be steamrolled quite as easily as, say, Wind/Globalive/Public, and the Big 3 actually have to act like "invaders" in those areas and offer plans that will possibly convince people to switch.
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It's possible to get on those plans outside of SK/MB of course, even with an external number - on Koodo at least thanks to a loophole, as I've already mentioned earlier on the thread. My girlfriend and I have the 49.50 5GB plan, each with 604 numbers, and couldn't be happier with it.
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Thanks. For once I'm actually glad I live in Winnipeg.
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Lexicon posted:It's possible to get on those plans outside of SK/MB of course, even with an external number - on Koodo at least thanks to a loophole, as I've already mentioned earlier on the thread. That loophole exist on Rogers?
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CLAM DOWN posted:That loophole exist on Rogers? It might, but not that I'm aware of. It works especially well for Koodo because they're such a self-service operation. You can do all the porting etc on their web app.
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CLAM DOWN posted:That loophole exist on Rogers? They'll likely bump you up to $80/month once you port over. Koodo and Telus don't do it automatically. And, as far as I know, you can't port your number on Rogers' website as Lexi said above.
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Godinster posted:They'll likely bump you up to $80/month once you port over Ugh 
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Lexicon posted:It's possible to get on those plans outside of SK/MB of course, even with an external number - on Koodo at least thanks to a loophole, as I've already mentioned earlier on the thread. Same. This post should be in the OP and the answer to 80% of the questions in the thread.
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The CRTC has slapped Rogers' wrists for locking small regional players into exclusive roaming contracts. This bit at the end caught my eye. http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/crtc-seeks-to-ban-exclusivity-clauses-in-wireless-roaming-contracts-1.1940926 quote:But OpenMedia.ca said the price caps mandated by Industry Canada are still 3.5 times higher than what independent wireless providers are paying south of the border.
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So Toronto thread told me to post here. I'm with Rogers paying $80 base for unlimited nation-wide, text, and 3 gigs, contract's up in Sept 2015. I refuse to go to Wind because of slow speeds and poor reception (friends have it) but at the same time I've used maybe less than 200 minutes per month all year so I figure I should probably be paying less. But Rogers CSR, nice guy, basically said I was boned because of the new 2-year pricing and to wait til fall when they usually have promotions. Any ideas?
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Pivo posted:So Toronto thread told me to post here. I'm with Rogers paying $80 base for unlimited nation-wide, text, and 3 gigs, contract's up in Sept 2015. I refuse to go to Wind because of slow speeds and poor reception (friends have it) but at the same time I've used maybe less than 200 minutes per month all year so I figure I should probably be paying less. But Rogers CSR, nice guy, basically said I was boned because of the new 2-year pricing and to wait til fall when they usually have promotions. Any ideas? Go on Koodo and get the SK/MB plan, so long as they both have a phone you want, and have good reception in your area. There have been guides posted on how to go about doing this. Their "fall promotions" will be $50 discounts on phones, almost never including the iPhone which I gather will be an issue given your avatar. The most you'll see is around a $5/month discount and likely only if you're a student.
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Godinster posted:Go on Koodo and get the SK/MB plan, so long as they both have a phone you want, and have good reception in your area. There have been guides posted on how to go about doing this. Seriously, listen to this guy. Own-phone, plus the SK/MB plan is the best and most flexible deal that exists in Canadian wireless. Yeah, it sucks to buy an iPhone for full whack out of pocket - but when you do the amortization math, and as long as you can get on that plan - this is as good as it gets. How to get the plan (no you do not need to live in SK/MB or be restricted to numbers from there). Plan: $55 per month less 10% for BYOD: $49.50 / month for unlimited nationwide calling, SMS/VM and 5GB LTE. Phone: $720 / 24 months: $30 per month $79.50 per month for an awesome plan and an awesome phone that you can turn around and sell for $300 in 2 years time (so long as you don't break it).
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Yeah that looks attractive, but I either need to fork over like $250-300 for Rogers to let me out of my contract + unlock my phone, or wait until Sept 2015. I don't really want a new phone though or a new number. I'm guessing I can port my old number over? I've had it for over a decade... edit: Just read the HowardForums post. That's awesome. poo poo, is it 55 after tax? That'd pay for itself in less than a year even if I broke my contract. Even if it's not... $55*1.13 = 62.15 * 13 (now til next September) + $10 SIM = 817.95 Currently 97.18 * 13 = 1263.34 gently caress me, I'd save 445.39! As long as my cancellation fee is less than that, I come out ahead! Pivo fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Aug 9, 2014 |
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