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Froghammer posted:It's not, like, Wurmcoil good, but it's big and scary and can go in lots of different kind of decks, so there'll probably be a home for it. Scuttling Doom Engine is awesome, but I have no idea what deck would want it.
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Elyv posted:Scuttling Doom Engine is awesome, but I have no idea what deck would want it. Big Green likes to pump out big scary things quickly. Coincidentally, it also hates being chump blocked. 
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Jul 15, 2014 02:43
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Elyv posted:Scuttling Doom Engine is awesome, but I have no idea what deck would want it. Big green could, and anything that uses generator servant and shrapnel blast. Tossing around an idea for a b/r deck that uses those and rescue from the underworld to maximize scuttle value.
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Jul 15, 2014 02:55
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Kitchen table Gift of Immortality - Scuttling Doom Engine decks are being made as we speak.
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Jul 15, 2014 03:03
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It's the Mobile Oppression Palace.
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Jul 15, 2014 03:06
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Howl's Moving Castle. If it was made of crabs and hurting. And Doom, lots of doom
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Elyv posted:Scuttling Doom Engine is awesome, but I have no idea what deck would want it. It is a pretty obvious deliberate answer to Elspeth.
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Jul 15, 2014 03:29
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Zorak posted:It is a pretty obvious deliberate answer to Elspeth. ...Somehow I did not think of this.
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Jul 15, 2014 03:42
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Scuttling Doom Engine is perfectly named please no Scuttling Doom Engine shaming in this thread.
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Jul 15, 2014 03:43
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Zorak posted:It is a pretty obvious deliberate answer to Elspeth.
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Jul 15, 2014 04:03
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Guys help, I bought the black/white deck, played against some of my friends using their own dumb newbie decks (one of them used the red/black newbie deck and another used this deck she built for shits and giggles just to see how it went and she destroyed me, teaching me that I should probably build a real deck) and now I'm looking for good MTG podcasts and bought a week of that Star City site's premium to check them out. This is basically me right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JUCfX1P1ik
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Jul 15, 2014 04:14
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Seems like a smart way to sell a few more cards. Go ahead and push Theros a bit, but now we're done with all that Theros nonsense and we want people buying Khans for Standard, so here's a card that destroys all enchantments, and here's a colorless card anyone can sideboard that obliterates Elspeth.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Guys help, I bought the black/white deck, played against some of my friends using their own dumb newbie decks (one of them used the red/black newbie deck and another used this deck she built for shits and giggles just to see how it went and she destroyed me, teaching me that I should probably build a real deck) and now I'm looking for good MTG podcasts and bought a week of that Star City site's premium to check them out. SCG Premium's demographic is typically high volume tournament players, and many of them read it for nearly free (since entry into an SCG Open includes 1 free month). I don't recommend spending money on it unless you reeeeally like the writers or are interested in big tournament play. You can, however, watch SCG Open coverage for free on weekends to hear great commentary and see the decks and high level of play. This weekend will be Baltimore, with people scrambling for M15 cards and trying crazy decks as it's the first tournament where the new cards will be legal.
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Northjayhawk posted:Seems like a smart way to sell a few more cards. Go ahead and push Theros a bit, but now we're done with all that Theros nonsense and we want people buying Khans for Standard, so here's a card that destroys all enchantments, and here's a colorless card anyone can sideboard that obliterates Elspeth. Honestly, it's actually a good thing. Having narrow hosers printed in later sets helps balance the metagame, since if one strategy is too degenerate people can choose to take potent-enough answers to stand a fighting chance. This allows cards and strategies to be stronger without needing to be banned. As long as they're narrow, they don't really affect the viability of "balanced" decks, since people won't take such narrow hate in their limited sideboard slots unless the deck is a real threat to them. For example, Hexproof Auras is still a potent strategy even with Glaring Spotlight, because it's so narrow that no-one actually runs it. If you want an analogy, Bazaar is allowed to be unrestricted in Vintage, and hence Dredge allowed to be the strongest deck, because there's enough powerful hate to allow other decks to still have a fighting chance. Flash, on the other hand, has to be restricted because there isn't that level of hate for it around. Jabor fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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Jul 15, 2014 04:27
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AnacondaHL posted:SCG Premium's demographic is typically high volume tournament players, and many of them read it for nearly free (since entry into an SCG Open includes 1 free month). I don't recommend spending money on it unless you reeeeally like the writers or are interested in big tournament play. Yea that's why I just got a week, I'm way not into the big tourney scene but might as well see if I like a writer or the like. Doubt I'll re-up unless someone really catches me.
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Jul 15, 2014 04:32
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Jul 15, 2014 04:37
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neetengie posted:What would make it perfect is if it's Phyrexian made. Kinda looks like it too. It's design is pretty obviously New Phyrexian so congrats!
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Jul 15, 2014 04:43
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rabidsquid posted:Imagine every single tournament going to time every single round because of all of the shuffling. I would rather the price of fetches stay absurd over having to deal with that but I already hate it in Modern and Legacy. Would fetches even be a must-include in Standard if shocklands (or something else with basic land types) weren't in the format? I thought it was that combo that made them such a necessity in legacy.
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Jul 15, 2014 05:19
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rabidsquid posted:Scuttling Doom Engine is perfectly named please no Scuttling Doom Engine shaming in this thread. Nothing that is 6/6 scuttles. Maybe 'Ponderous Doom Engine' I could see...
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Nothing that is 6/6 scuttles. Maybe 'Ponderous Doom Engine' I could see... Stop Scut Shaming the Doom Engine!
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Jul 15, 2014 05:29
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Thanks for reminding me! Scute mob was a 1/1, jwari scuttler 2/3, scuttlemutt 2/2. Point proven magic is clearly being ruined forever.
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Jul 15, 2014 05:38
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Jabor posted:Honestly, it's actually a good thing. Having narrow hosers printed in later sets helps balance the metagame, since if one strategy is too degenerate people can choose to take potent-enough answers to stand a fighting chance. This allows cards and strategies to be stronger without needing to be banned. As long as they're narrow, they don't really affect the viability of "balanced" decks, since people won't take such narrow hate in their limited sideboard slots unless the deck is a real threat to them. For example, Hexproof Auras is still a potent strategy even with Glaring Spotlight, because it's so narrow that no-one actually runs it. I strongly disagree with this. Printing narrow hosers discourages creativity in Standard builds, and closes off options too early. For instance, Constellation decks haven't really been a thing, but there was a chance for them once Ravnica cycled out and the format slowed down a little from that. Now? Good luck playing a deck where you lose everything but your lands to a two-mana spell. Scuttling Doom Engine is a good card to print against Elspeth, but dropping Back to Nature right after Theros is terrible.
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Back to Nature and Deicide make me seriously wonder if FFL for this format was completely different. Both of them seem like hosers way above the level of the decks they're hosing.
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Slutty Dong Engine
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Spiderdrake posted:Back to Nature and Deicide make me seriously wonder if FFL for this format was completely different. Both of them seem like hosers way above the level of the decks they're hosing. I wish they would let us know what FFL looked like after the block rotates out. I really want to know how close the overall metagame gets to their insular meta.
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Spiderdrake posted:Back to Nature and Deicide make me seriously wonder if FFL for this format was completely different. Both of them seem like hosers way above the level of the decks they're hosing. That's how modern hate cards have been designed lately. Having a proactive strategy has a natural advantage over reactive strategies, so reactive cards have to be stronger to be competitive, and one could argue that recently they've gone a bit too far (for non-counterspells).
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Jul 15, 2014 06:24
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Scuttling Doom Engine is currently my second favourite card. It is just so adorable  I will be running in my sideboard in green for elspeth match-ups and in the main for trading post control.
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Would it be better to wait until rotation to buy shocklands, or should I go ahead and complete my playsets now? They seem kind of low at the moment, but I'm not sure which direction they're expected to go in October.
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Zonekeeper posted:Would it be better to wait until rotation to buy shocklands, or should I go ahead and complete my playsets now? They seem kind of low at the moment, but I'm not sure which direction they're expected to go in October. In my opinion they are the lowest they are going to be until people realize how low they actually are and start buying in bulk to hoard, which in my area is already happening. Also, a lot of people are selling them in order to get big shiny M15 planeswalkers.
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Zonekeeper posted:Would it be better to wait until rotation to buy shocklands, or should I go ahead and complete my playsets now? They seem kind of low at the moment, but I'm not sure which direction they're expected to go in October. History says buy in mid-October. But lately people have been getting smarter with holding onto eternal and Modern playables, especially lands. But also the Standard PTQ season is split between Super Standard and rotation, and there are 3 consecutive Standard GPs in October, which may re-open that low price window anyways.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Guys help, I bought the black/white deck, played against some of my friends using their own dumb newbie decks (one of them used the red/black newbie deck and another used this deck she built for shits and giggles just to see how it went and she destroyed me, teaching me that I should probably build a real deck) and now I'm looking for good MTG podcasts and bought a week of that Star City site's premium to check them out. As Anaconda says, if it appeals to you, you can watch the tournament coverage on weekends and that's pretty great. Watching or reading up on Legacy can be a good way to catch some more advanced rules interactions, which Standard lacks.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Guys help, I bought the black/white deck, played against some of my friends using their own dumb newbie decks (one of them used the red/black newbie deck and another used this deck she built for shits and giggles just to see how it went and she destroyed me, teaching me that I should probably build a real deck) and now I'm looking for good MTG podcasts and bought a week of that Star City site's premium to check them out. I've played a bunch of Magic with Brian Wong, the co-host. If he's not one of the best ten limited players in the world, I'd be shocked. Brian Wong Facts (well, vague memories of facts):
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Zorak posted:It's design is pretty obviously New Phyrexian so congrats! Obviously, now someone has to ask Doug Beyer where SDE comes from so that we can settle this once and for all. Edit: Wait, looks like Phyrexia Soul only has deliberate callbacks to Elesh Norn, and the rest of it was me imagining things. Veyrall fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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Veyrall posted:Wait, looks like Phyrexia Soul only has deliberate callbacks to Elesh Norn, and the rest of it was me imagining things. Last we heard, Elesh Norn and her Orthodoxy are decidedly the top dogs over there, so it's probably a fair assumption that pointy alabaster headplates are all the rage across New Phyrexia this season. Johnny Landmine fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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Veyrall posted:Edit: Wait, looks like Phyrexia Soul only has deliberate callbacks to Elesh Norn, and the rest of it was me imagining things. One thing I just noticed is that it has the little darksteel/blightsteel invincibility sparkles around its arms, probably in reference to its activated ability.
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One thing I noticed was this. Look at the file name, is that going to be the name for the new Sarkhan card? Edit: Then again, Tyrant's Choice is named Inquisitor's Decision in the file, so who knows?
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Jul 15, 2014 13:06
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Sarkhan, the big lizard's spokesperson
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Jul 15, 2014 13:45
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It very well could be the card's name but names can change at any time until they send it off to the printers so it could change. "The Dragon's Voice" is pretty cool sounding though so I hope it doesn't change.
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bhsman posted:No offense, but I would rather deal with some shuffling compared to paying a minimum $50 per fetch. I get to save money and my friends find it easier to get into Modern, and all for some extra shuffling? Sign me up! If they want modern to be a format that is relatively easy for new players to get into (they clearly do) they have to reprint the fetches. And I'm sure they will. Also, the Onslaught fetches aren't even in modern yet. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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That said, I can't see tournaments going to time any more than they already do with UW Control running around.