Tracula posted:

-Auties, Aspies

Samurai Quack posted:

It's Autists! Goddamn can tropers do nothing right!

Tracula posted:

-Auties, Aspies, and other CloudCuckooLanders!

WickedHate posted:

Haha yes neuroatypical people are cloudcuckoolanders awesome, great.

gently caress you TVTropes.

Tracula posted:

-Those Who Are Fond of Fedoras
-Those who hate fedoras (although this one got locked because "Nope. This will be a complaining thread and we don't want those.")

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Cap: Averted. You can score over 1 trillion in Unlimited Mode, but the counter won't stop going up. In 1.01, when this occurs, the game automatically switches over to World notation for score.

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None of the Alice Soft games will ever make it in the US due to their controversial nature. AliceSoft even blocked off their website to any and all foreigners.

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Sam and Max Hit the Road has never gotten another American re-release aside from the CD-ROM re-release in 1995 (and as a pack-in in an otherwise unrelated LucasArts game, Armed & Dangerous). However, it did get a 2007 re-release in Europe, the country in which the series is critically panned.

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No importing RapeLay for you! Despite being a rather under-the-radar sandbox-style 3D-ero (a.k.a. "Hentai") game from 2006, It was imported intentionally by several American feminist organizations specifically to be offended by it — groups that are now working with far right protesters in Japan to pressure the Japanese government to ban "Abuse Games". Amazon and other importer-friendly stores have banned the sale of the game, retail markets in Japan are working at pulling it from shelves, and even the maker has purged their website of all mention of it.

The bigger catch? Much like the proposed anti-Lolicon rules that would plant an automatic R-18 rating (read: no one under 18 admitted) on certain works (thankfully, Doraemon won't be among them), the preliminary proposed regulations about "abuse games" are vague enough that they would ban about 30-40% of the ero market. A complete accident, of course.

Illusion doesn't release any of their games outside of Japan — they even have an statement on their website stating that they won't sell any game to anybody outside Japan. Many of their more mainstream Dating Sim games are actually kinda fun to play and have huge modding communities outside of Japan. Even games like RapeLay or Biko (a "stalker game") are interestingly bizarre (bizarrely interesting?) examples of that piece of Japanese culture. They have even released a couple of RPG and Brawler style H-Games. (Not to mention the company's mastery of the art of Jiggle Physics.) Regardless of title, if you want to play them, outside of travelling to Japan to buy them, you have to rely on either ambiguously legal imports or torrents to get them. In fact, you can be charged with a felony for possessing it.

Note that the last sentence applies still in a variety of countries, but not the US or Japan. Certain aspects of the game Rapelay (namely that the youngest rapeable character is supposed to be just 10, though she looks more about 16 in the game) mean the game is illegal in a number of European and even Asian (with the exception of Japan) countries. It also would have been illegal in the US if those 2 laws back in the George W Bush administration had actually stayed. However the US Supreme court struck down these laws (that amounted to "anti lolicon hentai" laws) in favor of free speech (as playing this game or others like it in fact does not actually harm anyone). While at the time of me writing this, there is no entry in Ebay for the game, it is potentially possible to purchase it on Ebay, if anyone has a copy they are selling. This also remains the only legal way (no piracy needed) to acquire a copy of the game.

Testekill posted:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=14053106080A76099400&page=0 posted:

Is it bad that my main characters do not fit into the Five Man Band trope?

The five mainsin my story consist of three guys and two girls. First guy is the hero. The two girls are half smart guy half lancer, so whatever smart guy traits one has the other doesn't. It's a bit of a mash-up. The big guy is one put into that categorey because he is the tallest, but he is too complex to be summed up as "big guy". And finally the chick is a guy. So I am not sure if this is really a five man band or if this combination is even good.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13761541380A04470300&page=0 posted:

Writing a Proper Girls Night Out Episode... and Friendship
Giver of Lame Names
I was browsing around here in Writer's Block and came across this thread. found it to be a rather strange topic... then i realized i myself have the same problem with girls. Y'see, I have a 7 member ensemble consisting of 4 ladies, a little girl, and two guys. and i'd rather not describe them here again as i've already described them at length on that thread. their archetypes are important. key tropes are Headbutting Heroes and Teeth-Clenched Teamwork.

yes, i realize that trope refers simply to an episode with no guys around. though i'd like to try to write a literal one (for Deconstructive Parody or just plain parody purposes).

anyway, my plan for the episode is for it to be a team building session, because as stated on the thread, they don't exactly get along, since there can't possibly be any decent chemistry between an Alpha Bitch, Shana Clone (sans love interest), The Lad-ette, Aloof Dark-Haired Girl, and The Ingenue. even without invoking the trope, there's still Extraverted Nerd (incompatible w/ AB & ADHG) and The Sociopath (incmp. w/ AB & TI) to take into account.

so anyway, on to the questions: ANY QUESTIONS, SNAKE? QUESTIONS?
* What do girls usually do when they hang out(or team build/get to know each other, etc)? shopping is a given, but what makes it fun? though i'm a guy i can relate on taking time to choose something.(quality and cheapness are my primary categories on choices.) what i do not understand is how girls always seem to manage to gather an armful of bought items. also, i guess they'd rather pillage than shop and would prefer weapons and accessories over clothes (this is practicalt, and simply subverts the usual "dresses, shoes, and diamonds" Schtick if you consider Death of the Author. spa/hot springs is another obvious one. but can't be used for team building as it seems to be a bonding activity for relaxation. not helping an incoherent group to learn to like each other. salon cannot be used for the group, these girls all keep secrets that will get revealed on make overs. some relatively minor activity (self-make overs, baking, etc). cannot be used on the group as one is Sheltered Aristocrat, and the rest each Hates Small Talk and would rather mind their own business or have awkward moments if they even try this.

*Do girls really love gossip? what makes it appealing if so? addendum, what do they normally talk about outside of this and the stereotypical "beauty tips" and "current entertainment", and what happened in their day? what about non-mundane stuff (excluding politics and current events)?

*would girls allow breach of their personal space (skinship, etc) on "new friends"?
*how would a "girl talk" on one topic differ on a "guy talk" on the same topic other than how they talk about it?
*are girls really that fond of skinship, or does it only apply to those who've been friends for a long time?

TV Tropes: Skinship Grope posted:

In a highly hierarchical society, communal bathing is seen as a great equalizing social event, healthy in establishing a close relationship with peers and family.

A Furo Scene with girls will inevitably end up with one character admiring another's physical development, with subsequent teasing and tickling. An added gag is that a highly flustered male on the men's side of the bath only able to hear the discussion and either taking it out of context or trying to get a peek, sometimes both. This is commonly used as fanservice, but pops up in shojo as well as shonen. This fanservice-oriented trope is much rarer with guys, aside from playful horsing around — with the obvious occasional exception of Yaoi Guys...

...And while baths, hot springs, beaches, and locker rooms are the most likely settings, any scene where a girl decides to get playful with her friend's... assets falls under this trope. Even being close friends isn't a hard rule, though you have to question the motives of someone who gropes people they barely know for fun.

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And while this almost always works in anime, suggesting it in Real Life is not a good idea. Kids, Don't Try This at Home unless you're on really, really good terms with the other person.

Skinship Grope: Real Life posted:

Japanese schoolgirls, at least, really do seem to do this to one another on occasion. They also tend to glomp each other in more generally suggestive ways in public; they even call it sukinshippu ("skinship").

MinistryofLard posted:

One of the stupidest things about tropers is that the only reason they dislike Shintaro Ishihara is because of his opposition to pedophilic rape anime, of all things.

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

If anything, the money's on them agreeing with his homophobia and anti-black racism and Japanese ultranationalism and a fuckton of the other unsavory views he has, but even then, being mad about him being a broken clock and thinking that lolicon is gross is definitely hating him for the wrong reason.

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Kana: Little Sister (Kana ~Imouto~) is a visual novel depicting the story of 15-year-old Kana, a girl who suffers from a chronic life-threatening disease and her older brother, Takamichi (Taka), who supports her and cares for her. The game deals with the relationship between both siblings, which gets more and more intense as time progresses. There is a clear incestuous element later, but which goes far beyond mere physical attraction.
The game has a fairly long history, with its first release by D.O. in 1999. It caused quite a splash in the industry by combining a typical dating sim outline with very dramatic plot elements. This went so far that the actual sex scenes are few and far between, and are used more for narrative purposes than for titillation. This resulted in the trend of drama in dating sims becoming increasingly more important than the pornographic scenes, with often full-blown Tear Jerker content and Melodrama. Games of this type are often named "Utsu-ge" in Japanese, meaning "depressing game", which fits the contents nicely.
An English version of the game was released by G-Collections in 2002, with the erotic content uncensored.
Despite being filled to the brim with the clichés that make the genre infamous, the game still has a compelling plot, helped along by Taka's thoughtful narration. It is through his eyes that we see the story unfold, starting in the past, when he and his sister were children. The game covers a time period of about 10 years, in which the characters grow and have to make (sometimes tough) decisions.

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what i do not understand is how girls always seem to manage to gather an armful of bought items. also, i guess they'd rather pillage than shop and would prefer weapons and accessories over clothes (this is practicalt, and simply subverts the usual "dresses, shoes, and diamonds" Schtick if you consider Death of the Author.

Ague Proof posted:

What is this supposed to mean? Does this person somehow misunderstand Death of the Author more than the average troper?

Arcsquad12 posted:

Death of the Author refers to a fandom or readership rejecting whatever intent the author states about a work. You remove the creator's views and biases in order to enjoy something you might otherwise not. A common example is enjoying the novel Ender's Game for its contributions to science fiction and its uncanny predictions with social media and strategy games, while ignoring the fact that the author Orson Scott Card is a racist homophobic rear end in a top hat who regularly donates money to anti gay collections.

Tropers use Death of the Author to ignore whatever the author was actually trying to say and replacing it with their insane fan theories and headcanon.

Arcsquad12 posted:

A common example is enjoying the novel Ender's Game for its contributions to science fiction and its uncanny predictions with social media and strategy games, while ignoring the fact that the author Orson Scott Card is a racist homophobic rear end in a top hat who regularly donates money to anti gay collections.

Ninjasaurus posted:

Destroy anime and arrest weeaboos/otakus. It's the only way to be sure.

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Subverted by Pablo Picasso who, when asked how to distinguish between his genuine works and the numerous fakes that were circulating, he answered simply, "If it's good, it's mine. If it's bad, it's a fake."^note_{Makes you wonder since Picasso said "Good artists copy, great artists steal."}

Improbable Lobster posted:

Death of the Author is a type of literary analysis that does not take the identity or intentions into account when examining the "meaning" of a work.

Tvtropes has a great example on their page.

corn in the bible posted:

Jesus Christ, that's loving stupid.

Arcsquad12 posted:

So my orson scott card example isn't really an example? Huh, my mistake. Actually now that I've thought about it some more, I think I do have a good example.

The film Grave of the Fireflies is rather explicitly described by the director isao takahata as not being an anti war film. That hasn't stopped people outside of japan from seeing the film as one.

watho posted:

Wait, it's not?

Regalingualius posted:

I'm vaguely remembering him saying something about how it was aimed at what he felt was a rather delinquent youth in Japan at the time it was made. Basically "stop bitching, you've no idea how good you've got it", though I could be misremembering.

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I've found that the most clear example of DotA in action is The Shining, which is basically about King's addictions destroying himself and his family, even though he had no idea it could be interpreted that way until someone read the book on release and asked him about it.

watho posted:

So death of the author is just interpretations that weren't intentional?