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PierreTheMime posted:Took a break from Gargoyles to do up the special release Captain, replacing his Stormbolter-on-hip pose with a Sternguard Veteran Combi-melta (which actually fit perfectly without any effort). That's stonking great. Cap' looks awesome with a helmet, he looks so damned big.
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Speaking of conversions and counts as, saw this is coming in the future Aside from being easy to Ork up, I forsee a potential line - the Leman Russ already resembles a French BDR G1B, this one is a Matilda II, they should make a KV-1/T-34-85 to go with Vostroyans, an M4 sherman to go with Catachans, and absolutely not make any German tanks for the IG with swastikas on them to use.
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Esser-Z posted:Scratchbuilds and conversions are the heart of an Ork army. I really should convert my Battlewagons instead of buying them. Would've converted my buggies, but the Mantic Raptor was PERFECT for them. You should bookmark this: http://www.the-waaagh.com/forums/?showtopic=50382 I would still strongly recommend getting at least one new-in-box BW kit, it's really worth it for the bits you can apply to other builds, and because studying the kit first hand gives you a much better handle on appropriate scaling for hatches etc.
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Cataphract posted:I was always a fan of the Tzeentch cube daemon army That is a stupidly good idea. If I ever played demons (imperium 4 lyfe) I'd do that for my Tzeentch stuff.
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OK, I'll be the sacrifice - what is the relevance of the cubes and Tzeentch?
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Shallow posted:You should bookmark this: http://www.the-waaagh.com/forums/?showtopic=50382 Alright, thanks a ton!
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I'm slowly starting to succomb to the pull of starting on 40K again. Thought Kill Team would be enough, but alas... they pull you back in  So... Grey Knights any good? I need an army with a relatively low model count due to time constraints and compulsive overthinking/modelling quirks. I was thinking about running it with Inq. Corteaz so I can use a bunch of my existing kill team models as henchmen, and then just a few squads of marines, some termies, dreads and a dreadknight... maybe 1500 points? Sounds completely stupid?
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krushgroove posted:OK, I'll be the sacrifice - what is the relevance of the cubes and Tzeentch? Nothing, really, just that Tzeentchian daemons are thought to be always changing and adopt strange appearances.
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NTRabbit posted:Speaking of conversions and counts as, saw this is coming in the future
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So, from looking around online, everyone seems to be sold out of Stormreach.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:So, from looking around online, everyone seems to be sold out of Stormreach. Limited anything sells out with a quickness. If you are waiting for a tiny rulebook there will probably be more around once they put them into the DV sets.
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Supposedly the next WD has Dark Vengeance in it, so maybe as soon as the 26th for a new version of that.
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SRM posted:I mean, it's meant to be a counts-as Leman Russ. There's even sponson mounting for it. I think a Patton would be better for Catachans, since we didn't use Shermans in Vietnam. Yeah I know it is, it's from Victoria who make all the not-IG, I just thought it was a neat idea with thus far nice execution and figured it was easy to take further. While the Patton is historically suitable to the Catachans and the Sherman isn't, I'm not sure it's as easily turned into a 40k vehicle, which is why I said Sherman. The Patton series are too modern in appearance, IG tanks are all about sponsons, tall slab sides and chunky turrets slammed on top. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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krushgroove posted:OK, I'll be the sacrifice - what is the relevance of the cubes and Tzeentch? Change all day, all forms imaginable, die never. #JustTzeentchThings
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NTRabbit posted:Yeah I know it is, it's from Victoria who make all the not-IG, I just thought it was a neat idea with thus far nice execution and figured it was easy to take further. While the Patton is historically suitable to the Catachans and the Sherman isn't, I'm not sure it's as easily turned into a 40k vehicle, which is why I said Sherman. The Patton series are too modern in appearance, IG tanks are all about sponsons, tall slab sides and chunky turrets slammed on top. I think a Grant or Stuart would be a better starting point. They are even more slab-sided and have big hull guns. I have a feeling that if you really want T-34 looking Ruses, you can get 80-90% of the way there by just putting Rus turrets on Chimera hulls.
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If someone were to make 40k-ish Shermans I'd buy at least a couple for HQ usage because as much as I love tanks and IG I'm not the biggest fan of the Leman Russ design.
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I don't think a 40K style Sherman would look that different from a Rus, actually. The front would have more slope and the tracks wouldn't go all the way around, but aside from the hull emplacement and the comically over-sized gun barrels, they have a fairly similar profile. The Rus is just stubbier.
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PeterWeller posted:I don't think a 40K style Sherman would look that different from a Rus, actually. The front would have more slope and the tracks wouldn't go all the way around, but aside from the hull emplacement and the comically over-sized gun barrels, they have a fairly similar profile. The Rus is just stubbier. That's a good point yeah but I think it's the stubbiness that irks me the most in a sense. It looks a bit too compressed for its own good, there is a FW hull that does fix that somewhat but then again it is also a Forgeworld item. Always liked my tanks to be a bit more sleeker looking than just a semi-square box with threads. But that's just me obviously. Or I should just use model kits as count-as but they are annoyingly fiddly to deal with and I'd love to have an easily assembled kit to use as a count-as.
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The T1 Heavy Tank would certainly suit purposes for an American tank, but they never saw combat and most people have no idea what they are or what they look like, so they won't have the same impact. I guess an M5 Stuart would be flat and distinctive enough. Not the M3 Stuart though. Could always try an M3 Lee, they're goofy enough to be 40k 
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So is there any indication what else they have in IA:4 2.0 for nids other than the new MC? Changes to the existing bio-titans? vvvv Day 1 preorder. Hencoe fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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NTRabbit posted:The T1 Heavy Tank would certainly suit purposes for an American tank, but they never saw combat and most people have no idea what they are or what they look like, so they won't have the same impact. I guess an M5 Stuart would be flat and distinctive enough. Not the M3 Stuart though. Nah, it should be the M3 Stuart, and it should be able to take PotMS as an upgrade. That way you can field Haunted Tanks.
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When did this become the H*istory Channel thread? Have some more weird Tzeentch stuff:     *H is for Hitler, all day every day, Hitler, aliens, alien Hitlers.
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30k/40k question: How should I arm my front line sergeants/centurions? Melta bombs and Artificer Armour are only 15 points, which seems like a good option for somebody who’s going to be beating faces, in challenges, taking sniper fire, and need some anti armor flexibility. But which melee weapon? Power Axe, Lightning Claw, or Power Fist? Legionaries don’t have to accept challenges and often the sergeant/centurion will be in a blob with several different characters, including an HQ. NTRabbit posted:Speaking of conversions and counts as, saw this is coming in the future If the 30k imperial army stuff doesn't end up looking good, this is what I plan to use for my not GW tanks:   
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Post 9-11 User posted:When did this become the H*istory Channel thread? Why are you complaining about sweet tank chat?
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There is literally no reason for a Space Marine to take a Power Axe. If Warhammer wasn't retarded and Axes were -1 Initiative instead of Always Initiative 1, there'd be a use. Get a power sword, get a power fist if you're feeling sassy and want to punch tanks. Holy god damned gently caress that tank is amazing. What company makes it?  http://gwfwmort.bplaced.net/web1/in...cchk=1&Itemid=8 Jesus christ. 
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Don't bother with a power sword. They're just not that great and a single lightning claw is going to perform identically if not plain better. Please make power swords worth taking GW.  Why did someone photoshop this dude onto a defiler?  It's a cool idea, but why slap that guy over an already converted model? Oh, and that defiler is clearly Slaaneshi. You can see the symbol on its legs. 
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Maybe they were just trying to think of a conversion and used the first readily available image?
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I like the cubes, but... this. This! It makes me want to take some acid and lick some eyeballs, so it must be Tzeentch.
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Safety Factor posted:Don't bother with a power sword. They're just not that great and a single lightning claw is going to perform identically if not plain better. Please make power swords worth taking GW. Especially since he's much better as an ork. 
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So the question becomes- power fist or lightning claw? The claw will kill line troops and the first will kill terminators, right? So if I have beatstick HQ then the lightning claw is a better choice, otherwise a power fist is better?
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I thought for sure that we would have a Marbo data slate by now. I bet anything we'll gt it in that "special surprise" in Sep. or whatever. That's it that's their surprise.
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It's important to note that a lot of Legion-specific terminators are WS5, which is going to change the math on killing them a bit. Likewise some Legions are going to have 3+ invulns (Fists, Hands, and Salamanders, off the top of my head), so you're not looking at a winning fight. A 20-man Legionaire squad is probably not looking at meaningfully harming a Terminator squad in CC. If you're talking about using a lightning claw on an HQ, I would say 'almost literally never'. In 40k it has it's places but 30k has enough variety that you you don't need to take a S-, useless against armor melee weapon that costs you points. If you're going to pick one for your Legionaire sergeants I'd say a power fist is pretty universally useful despite I1. I've hated lightning claws ever since I charged a 12 man Fire Warrior squad and did like 2 casualties, so ymmv, but all in all I think fists are the better choice to at least threaten armor or terminator HQs.
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:It's important to note that a lot of Legion-specific terminators are WS5, which is going to change the math on killing them a bit. Likewise some Legions are going to have 3+ invulns (Fists, Hands, and Salamanders, off the top of my head), so you're not looking at a winning fight. A 20-man Legionaire squad is probably not looking at meaningfully harming a Terminator squad in CC. If you're talking about using a lightning claw on an HQ, I would say 'almost literally never'. In 40k it has it's places but 30k has enough variety that you you don't need to take a S-, useless against armor melee weapon that costs you points. If you're going to pick one for your Legionaire sergeants I'd say a power fist is pretty universally useful despite I1. I've hated lightning claws ever since I charged a 12 man Fire Warrior squad and did like 2 casualties, so ymmv, but all in all I think fists are the better choice to at least threaten armor or terminator HQs. How will them having WS5 change your chances of killing them? WS4 hits WS5 on a 4+. And you caused 2 casualties with lightning claws, but how many attacks did you have? If it was just a sergeant, then that's at most 4. Lightning claws, in pairs, are pretty cool on beatstick characters. Singular ones aren't quite so good, but I take one once in a while anyways. A power fist on a dude with a 2+ armor save isn't a bad idea either.
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Power Fists costs the same as Melta Bombs + Lightning Claw. I think that, between the sword and lightning claw, they perform about the same (you get 3 attacks with the power sword and only 2 with the lightning claw).
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In a similar vein, what do people think about kitting a warboss with a Big Choppa over a Powerklaw? He'd be S7 AP4 into combat, rolling with enough nobs that you're gonna eventually roll that 1 or 2.
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BULBASAUR posted:Power Fists costs the same as Melta Bombs + Lightning Claw. I think that, between the sword and lightning claw, they perform about the same (you get 3 attacks with the power sword and only 2 with the lightning claw). I don't know the legion rules but does it have to be a power sword? Power axes are AP2 and give you an extra attack. I think that would be the best option.
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That's my fault, I read the WS to hit chart wrong. I get the underlying concept behind lightning claw beat sticks but you're trading killing potential for...what? In 30k striking at initiative can be a big deal because almost everyone's initiative is the same but at the same time 30k HQs can be ridiculously tanky despite low wound counts. I'm happy to roll the dice on my 2+3+ HQ to survive a round of the lovely weapons that strike at initiative before he can hit them 5 times with a thunder hammer. In lower point games where HQs probably aren't maxing out their saves striking at I value can be a bigger deal but otherwise I have trouble justifying even the modest points cost. Btw the 2 casualties were caused by 5 assault terminators.
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AurumDude posted:In a similar vein, what do people think about kitting a warboss with a Big Choppa over a Powerklaw? He'd be S7 AP4 into combat, rolling with enough nobs that you're gonna eventually roll that 1 or 2. SUPER NEAT TOY posted:Btw the 2 casualties were caused by 5 assault terminators.
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