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The Kins
Oct 2, 2004
Podcast is up at the fancy new site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmHmtxLQUQs

There's a Game of Thrones Spoilerscast at the end, should that be or not be your jam.

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A Meat
Jun 28, 2013

CERTIFIED FRESH AS HELL DOC MAKER

Someone get Pat to post in this thread and have him talk about why he wants to burn down Something Awful.
Also I guess the SBF website is up

Silentman0
Jul 11, 2005

I have a new neighbor. Heard he comes from far away

The Kins posted:

Podcast is up at the fancy new site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmHmtxLQUQs

There's a Game of Thrones Spoilerscast at the end, should that be or not be your jam.

Gonna talk about Watamote? I read the comic and for the first half, it seemed to be a painfully accurate description of being an anti-social teen, but then in the second half you stop feeling sorry for her because it turns out she's actually a massive scumbag who deserves all the poo poo she gets.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Yeah, she's a shitbag, but also a product of her environment. Nobody is really innocent in it except maybe the brother who gets the brunt of her creepiness and, honestly, reacts realistically.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Watamote suffered sitcom progression syndrome (:tvtropes: would call it Flanderization) in its entirety in the one season it existed for.



Tomoko's introverted nature very quickly became the entire subject of the thing and it stopped being played for dark humor and started being played for actual humor. Then by the end of it Tomoko was basically a caricature of herself-from-the-first-episode, and it was hard to feel bad for her because the last few episodes centered around her being a huge idiot rear end in a top hat. It felt less about "Tomoko wants to be popular!" and more about "what will that WACKY Tomoko get into next??" which sucks.

Also they waited to pull the "Tomoko actually might be a little bit gay???" twist until the very end and it was like what.

edit: Oh, :tvtropes: is a real emoticon. That's good to know, and accurate too.

CJacobs fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Jul 15, 2014

cmykJester
Feb 16, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
I want a bike :smith:

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
The manga gets even worse. I pretty much stopped reading it, it was funny/cringeworthy for a while but it's clear the author's started to run out of ideas.

Now I want someone on SBF who's watched Watamote to read Masturbation Master Kurosawa for a non-humorous look at a total shitbag character who actually realizes what a horrible person they are and does something about it.

Oh, and Matt, if you want to send Liam to this thread, I think he might find some good series to read. Hell, you might enjoy some, it's mostly non-uguu poo poo, such as I Am A Hero(which rules and has some of the best artwork in a manga ever, maybe a peg below Berserk), Nausicaa, Ressentiment, ONEPUNCH MAN, A Silent Voice, Fortress of the Apocalypse, Teppu, and dozens of others.

edit: read ONEPUNCH MAN, for reals, there's pretty much no other manga with animate-able artwork



Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Jul 15, 2014

A Meat
Jun 28, 2013

CERTIFIED FRESH AS HELL DOC MAKER

Captain Invictus posted:

The manga gets even worse. I pretty much stopped reading it, it was funny/cringeworthy for a while but it's clear the author's started to run out of ideas.

Now I want someone on SBF who's watched Watamote to read Masturbation Master Kurosawa for a non-humorous look at a total shitbag character who actually realizes what a horrible person they are and does something about it.

Oh, and Matt, if you want to send Liam to this thread, I think he might find some good series to read. Hell, you might enjoy some, it's mostly non-uguu poo poo, such as I Am A Hero(which rules and has some of the best artwork in a manga ever, maybe a peg below Berserk), Nausicaa, Ressentiment, ONEPUNCH MAN, A Silent Voice, Fortress of the Apocalypse, Teppu, and dozens of others.

edit: read ONEPUNCH MAN, for reals, there's pretty much no other manga with animate-able artwork






Watamote should have just abruptly ended with Tomoko getting professional help for her crippling social anxiety, the best thing it could happen pretty much at any point in the story without any problems.

I second basically all you've said, but that the first thing on that list after ONEPUNCH MAN should be Teppu, which is about Women's MMA and being a huge smug rear end in a top hat, and it's drawn really well too.

Commissar Ken
Dec 9, 2006

Children STILL love me, dammit!


TheRealestMatt posted:

When I say, "It's not that bad" it's because it wasn't as bad as I was expecting. There was some decent action, decent special effects, and it got the story/character origin right for the most part.

Man of Steel completely betrays the Superman character, and it was clearly made by people that didn't know or didn't care what made the character appealing for his 70+ years of existence. But no, "This worked for Batman! So let's just shoe horn dark and dreary death poo poo all over this thing!" I'd rather have something done not so great, but at least FEEL right, than something that's pretty, flashy, but is completely inauthentic and shits over a character's defining traits and tone.

If you don't really get what I'm saying, watch this video: http://www.maker.tv/video/ORwodwrVCyzy/maker/comicbookgirl19/section/recent_top_videos

Explains it better than I do.

Funnily enough, I sat down and watched Spirit of Vengeance, and while it's a better movie than the first one (because it had no dumb romance subplot) it still wasn't great. Lame plot, but the action scenes were pretty darn fun, and Ghost Rider himself was just alot cooler. Movie still ain't a cinematic masterpiece by any means. I think turning Ghost Rider into a big hollywood thing does not work super well with that pocket of the marvel universe, if it was made back in like, 1997 or something (around Blade's time) I think it would have been better off.

I can see what you're saying to a degree with Man of Steel. While I don't feel it goes that far out of it's way to betray Superman himself (although for fucks sake did they bungle the poo poo out of Pa Kent and really didn't realize that their message on that wasn't noble but just dumb as gently caress) I can totally see what you're saying for the most part. I'd put that poo poo on the same level as Superman Returns which was only a passable movie for the exact opposite reason where they got too mired in 'lets try to establish that this is 70s AWW SCHUCKS Superman' that they never really get anything done and the only big moment that's supposed to induce awe, outside of the initial plane rescue, was him lifting a kryptonite island landgrab scheme which was totally stupid for a lot of reasons I could go on about for hours while eating pizza rolls. Plus gently caress that "Is he? Isn't he Superman's kid" kid. Kevin Spacey was fun though. Shame we can't get a Superman movie somewhere in the middle.

Ghost Rider though felt like someone had a late 90s early 00's superhero/action movie script sitting around that they couldn't pawn off and here comes Nic Cage all "I'LL PLAY ANY SUPERHERO! GIVE ME A MOVIE!" and they were like "Um... nobody has done Ghost Rider yet and we can get that for a nickle." and they just kinda shoe horned it to make it work. The origin stuff all feels pretty decent, I agree with that, but everything else kinda feels generic as gently caress with window dressings and waaaaacky Nic Cage poo poo. Worse I saw it in theaters because I was hyped for some dumb Ghost Rider bullshit and it's the first movie outside of Phantom Menace where I was all "What am I doing here? Where am I?" Also unfortunately for me my girlfriend finds it a guilty pleasure to watch it so I get subjected to it much like you subject your girlfriend Pat to watching Face Off.

Also yes, a lot of low tier Marvel/DC properties really should go the TV or Webseries route and i'm glad they're doing that for Daredevil and would kill a man in front of his elderly grandmother for a Luke Cage/Iron Fist Heroes for Hire deal.

Plus seconding the Bruce Timm DC Animated Universe love. You can jump in on any series and it's all well written and good and probably the best representation of all the DC heroes ever. Plus Justice League Unlimited would make Pat love LOVE Booster Gold. Probably still not Hal Jordan though cause gently caress that guy twice.


Anyway thanks for the rambling and responding back and for being a Kamiya in that you like the same dumb bullshit we like.

Commissar Ken fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Jul 15, 2014

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

A Meat posted:

Watamote should have just abruptly ended with Tomoko getting professional help for her crippling social anxiety, the best thing it could happen pretty much at any point in the story without any problems.

I second basically all you've said, but that the first thing on that list after ONEPUNCH MAN should be Teppu, which is about Women's MMA and being a huge smug rear end in a top hat, and it's drawn really well too.
The list isn't really in order of preference, just whatever I thought of at the moment.

Nausicaa is far and away better than anything else on my list and was a huge inspiration for a lot of stuff that followed, Teppu is great but it doesn't really hold up against it.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Congrats on your new site, guys.

TheRealestMatt
Jun 27, 2014

The Boss. The CEO. The J-Cup Lover.

A Meat posted:

Someone get Pat to post in this thread and have him talk about why he wants to burn down Something Awful.
Also I guess the SBF website is up

Hey don't worry, I don't hate you guys like he does for some reason.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
But we love Pat :smith:

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
You guys are looking at tinted glasses if you don't think most of the forums doesn't piss off Pat, especially Games in general.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
lol who reads Games.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
I think this came up like a dozen times across videos and podcasts now.

Matt, the Batwoman in Injustice is not Barbara Gordon. It's a completely different woman.

Commissar Ken
Dec 9, 2006

Children STILL love me, dammit!


TheRealestMatt posted:

Hey don't worry, I don't hate you guys like he does for some reason.

Oh last thing, could you ask him how you avoid the crippling desire to commit suicide when your hair starts running away from your forehead like a Kenyan track star? I'm asking for... um... a friend.

Wiseblood
Dec 31, 2000

Tae posted:

Matt, the Batwoman in Injustice is not Barbara Gordon. It's a completely different woman.

It's Barbara Gordon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mXCmxzLv0E

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Well what the gently caress, why did I read it as Kate Kane, I'm dumb.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Yeah if you guys liked Batman Beyond and Batman the Animated series you owe it to yourselves to watch Justice League and JLU. I rewatched all 3 on Netflix recently and they all pretty much hold up, except for Batman Beyond's unironic use of fake future slang.

Also all you Sailor Moon nerds need to watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8dXOz_XZL8

e: ew Liam slinging Racist Roaches

Rody One Half fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jul 15, 2014

TheRealestMatt
Jun 27, 2014

The Boss. The CEO. The J-Cup Lover.

Tae posted:

Well what the gently caress, why did I read it as Kate Kane, I'm dumb.

Apology accepted!

Commissar Ken
Dec 9, 2006

Children STILL love me, dammit!


Rodyle posted:

Except for Batman Beyond's unironic use of fake future slang.

Hey hey HEY! Everything is loving Schway around here.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Congrats on having a website like real internet celbs now.

Also I think Watamote is still pretty ok, it for sure is not as great as it used to be though. I think it hit a down curve when she started a side comic and gave Tomoko an equally socially retarded friend, but instead of going all the way and making it 'see even when she finds someone like her she's too much of a big dumb goon to realize they could probably help eachother' or whatever she just made the friend kinda a generic dork and Tomoko still a huge crazy person. So it's just like "Here Tomoko and her friends, her friends are kinda dorky and she does poo poo like try to look up porn at school"

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Hey Matt, does it make a difference to the Zaibatsu where I watch your videos? Like, do you guys get more ad revenue from the SBFP site or YouTube, or does it make no difference?

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

What is Liam even arguing about re: this preorder bonus stuff. Like his initial question was shot down and then something just broke and he started pretending this was an argument so he could win it :psyduck:

He was doing so well lately, too.

EDIT: Words From Our Sponsors is always amazing though.

Yinlock fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Jul 16, 2014

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Yinlock posted:

What is Liam even arguing about re: this preorder bonus stuff. Like his initial question was shot down and then something just broke and he started pretending this was an argument so he could win it :psyduck:

He was doing so well lately, too.

I love Liam but 'he got his answer quickly and then just invented a new argument because he was ready for a fight about something' is basically his MO. I think he thought differently about the system and when he was told it wasn't that way was just all 'well I spent time thinking about what I think about it anyway...'

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Ahahaha oh my god. "Season 4, the season of nothing happening with Dany." "I'm gonna rule! I'm still ruling!"

(Matt do not read this) They have no idea. :smith:

Commissar Ken
Dec 9, 2006

Children STILL love me, dammit!


Yinlock posted:

What is Liam even arguing about re: this preorder bonus stuff. Like his initial question was shot down and then something just broke and he started pretending this was an argument so he could win it :psyduck:

He was doing so well lately, too.

EDIT: Words From Our Sponsors is always amazing though.

Hey, give him a break. The boy is obsessed about the Vita he's gotta take the wins where he can get em'.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

game of thrones poo poo That scene with the baby and the white walkers isn't even in the books. Technically the show has shown more than the books have about the white walkers at this point.

Silentman0
Jul 11, 2005

I have a new neighbor. Heard he comes from far away

Commissar Ken posted:

Hey, give him a break. The boy is obsessed about the Vita he's gotta take the wins where he can get em'.

And the Ouya.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Silentman0 posted:

And the Ouya.

That has to be the most bizarre thing that he's been defending consider all the absolutely terrible decisions constantly coming out of the Ouya. The initial kickstarter was claiming that playing video games on the television is dead for fuks sake and last time I checked there was still a sizeable number of people who never received their kickstarter backer Ouya.

Depths
Apr 15, 2009

SENPAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hX5MmpYGf8

perfect

Wiseblood
Dec 31, 2000

And there's a new Cryme Tyme video on the website that's currently not on their Youtube.

AXE COP
Apr 16, 2010

i always feel like

somebody's watching me

Wiseblood posted:

And there's a new Cryme Tyme video on the website that's currently not on their Youtube.

I don't think that's a new cryme tyme, it's just a reupload of their 50 Cent video

What they do have on the site is Dark Souls part 4

http://superbestfriendsplay.com/series/dark-souls-2/

Wiseblood
Dec 31, 2000

I meant the NARC video, which was on the frontpage but I guess got bumped off by the new DS2 video.

TechnoSyndrome
Apr 10, 2009

STARE
Matt if you guys actually do an LP of Peace Walker it needs to be co-op.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Forgot Peace Walker, I want them to finish the MGS4 one.

beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004

TechnoSyndrome posted:

Matt if you guys actually do an LP of Peace Walker it needs to be co-op.

Have they every done a non-local coop game before? No local coop for PW could be an issue for them if they haven't done it before (but drat I hope they try).

Also, PW is very, very grindy which could work against their style...

beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004

Oh my god, but the thought of Matt trying to move on to the next map and gettin super fuckin mad that he can't cause Pat is wasting time obsessing over tranqing/fultoning every single man, though...

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Commissar Ken
Dec 9, 2006

Children STILL love me, dammit!


TechnoSyndrome posted:

Matt if you guys actually do an LP of Peace Walker it needs to be co-op.

Likewise if you guys actually do an LP of Peace Walker or MGS4 and Konami sends the legal ninjas after you i'd like you to bequeath your MGS3 framed poster cool guy thing to me because I covet that fucker biblical style.

Commissar Ken fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Jul 16, 2014

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