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muscles like this? posted:I mean stuff like how Kurt Russel, Kevin Costner, Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Sacha Baron Cohen were all supposed to be in the movie, bro. Or how Jonah Hill was in the movie, quit and then came back. Or how Tarantino got so tired of people quitting the movie that he started cutting and combining characters instead of recasting. Tarantino wasn't innocent of casting fuckery himself in Django Unchained: apparently Sid Haig's agent was told that he'd definitely got the part of Mr. Stonesipher but Tarantino gave it to David Steen, supposedly as a burn against Haig for turning down the role of Marcellus Wallace in Pulp Fiction.
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I forgot to mention that a lot of this stuff wasn't happening before the movie started filming but like 6 months out from release when it already had trailers and stuff out.
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 17:46 |
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Yeah those are really good subtle moments. My favorite was Leonardo DiCaprio being cast. It was so subtle because I once saw him in Titanic and I was like woah.
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toxicsunset posted:This is so subtle that they included an entire scene where he opens the bible and there is a message written from Andy that says "You were right, Salvation did lie within" you obtuse gently caress
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# ? Jul 5, 2014 18:56 |
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In the man in the Iron Mask both the king and the prisoner are played by Leonardo DiCaprio. It's because they are twin brothers.
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# ? Jul 6, 2014 10:32 |
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Wild T posted:* That and he's a manipulative rear end in a top hat who needs to feel in control of everyone around him, much like Schultz's character in Inglourious Basterds. My pet theory is that Candie is directly written as a tongue-in-cheek takedown of Landa - there are several scenes with him that mirror the Landa scenes in Basterds. Most notably there's the bit where he offers Schultz a drink, and then brings out his own huge flashy drink, just like the pipe in the first scene of IB. With Landa it's an expression of his superiority and absolute control over the situation. Candie does the same thing - slightly reframed, the move makes him look like a tacky idiot, even though as far as the audience knows he may be just as clued-in as Landa. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Jul 6, 2014 14:46 |
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See Im right.
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# ? Jul 6, 2014 16:03 |
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toxicsunset posted:This is so subtle that they included an entire scene where he opens the bible and there is a message written from Andy that says "You were right, Salvation did lie within" you obtuse gently caress For a real subtle moment from the same scene, when the Warden flips open the Bible, the first page on which the hammer carve-out starts? Exodus.
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# ? Jul 6, 2014 21:31 |
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American Pie: The school's team name is the Trailblazers (ie first timers).
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# ? Jul 7, 2014 04:36 |
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burnsep posted:I'm not convinced it was a pride issue- I always got the sense that Schultz had simply reached his limit on how much horror he could witness and that Candie's sadism made him a monster he had to kill. His discipline held out only until he had to treat Candie with respect.
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 16:31 |
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The real answer is that as a dentist Schultz had a professional obligation to destroy Candyland no matter the cost.
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 16:38 |
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Oh jeez that choice in names must have been on purpose right?
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 17:31 |
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bamhand posted:Oh jeez that choice in names must have been on purpose right? Yes, I thought that was pretty obvious. The dentist/bounty hunter who rooted out the corruption of a man named Candy is pretty much Lit 101 level reading comprehension stuff. Not trying to be rude, it's a movie so things like that can easily get missed, but all the names in the film are pretty descriptive. Django actually means 'I awaken' too, which fits the character's story arc quite well.
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 17:38 |
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bamhand posted:Oh jeez that choice in names must have been on purpose right? Also, his first targets in the movie are the Brittle brothers.
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muscles like this? posted:I mean stuff like how Kurt Russel, Kevin Costner, Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Sacha Baron Cohen were all supposed to be in the movie, bro. Or how Jonah Hill was in the movie, quit and then came back. Or how Tarantino got so tired of people quitting the movie that he started cutting and combining characters instead of recasting. To be fair, both Costner and Cohen had to drop out because of scheduling. Keep in mind that Cohen was going to be in exactly one scene and as he explains, he was still editing The Dictator and was falling behind on it, so he could either quite Django or quit Les Mis. Hill agreed to the movie, then thought he wasn't going to be able to, and then went back to it again. The only real issue was with Russell, who legitimately did quit production. Instead he just gave his lines to Walton Goggins. The casting issues for that movie were blown out of proportion, with only Russell actually leaving during filming. And of course there's a point to having a Francophile and a European in the movie.
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 22:32 |
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DrVenkman posted:To be fair, both Costner and Cohen had to drop out because of scheduling. Keep in mind that Cohen was going to be in exactly one scene and as he explains, he was still editing The Dictator and was falling behind on it, so he could either quite Django or quit Les Mis. Hill agreed to the movie, then thought he wasn't going to be able to, and then went back to it again. The only real issue was with Russell, who legitimately did quit production. Instead he just gave his lines to Walton Goggins. I'm curious as to why Kurt Russell left- he and Tarantino still seem to be on good terms, at least, since I believe Russell plays one of the leads in the Cannes reading of the Hateful Eight script (which seems to indicate that Tarantino wants him to play the character when/if he does make the movie).
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 22:43 |
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Was just passing the time with Scott Pilgrim vs. The World. I never noticed that when the Katayanagi Twins blow the roof off the venue you can see the moon. If you look the hole that Todd punched in it is visible.
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nucleicmaxid posted:Yes, I thought that was pretty obvious. The dentist/bounty hunter who rooted out the corruption of a man named Candy is pretty much Lit 101 level reading comprehension stuff. Not trying to be rude, it's a movie so things like that can easily get missed, but all the names in the film are pretty descriptive. Django actually means 'I awaken' too, which fits the character's story arc quite well. God drat it
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SkeletonHero posted:Also, his first targets in the movie are the Brittle brothers. A gang of outlaws, Peanut, Pecan and Walnut.
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# ? Jul 11, 2014 01:16 |
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In Transformers: Age of Extinction, Mark Wahlberg goes to a movie theater that has been closed to buy some old equipments. The old guy who worked there was with him and complained that new movies are just sequels and remakes. He then points to a poster for 1966's El Dorado and that he likes the movie (or that it's a good movie, I forgot about that). The irony here is that El Dorado is thought by many to be a remake of Rio Bravo, and both of them were directed by Howard Hawks. Hawks later directed Rio Lobo, which is again very similar to Rio Bravo and El Dorado. Hawks also directed 1932's Scarface and was allegedly the real main director of 1951's The Thing From Another World, both movies that have updated versions that are more popular and considered classics now.
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# ? Jul 11, 2014 02:13 |
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There's a similar thing in back to the future 3; there were tons of similar complaints about sequels at the time, so the drive-in theater Marty uses as a staging spot for the jump back to 1885 is showing only sequels that came out in 1955
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Riptor posted:There's a similar thing in back to the future 3; there were tons of similar complaints about sequels at the time, so the drive-in theater Marty uses as a staging spot for the jump back to 1885 is showing only sequels that came out in 1955 And if I remember correctly, during the "Clint who?" line there is a movie poster behind Doc for a movie Clint Eastwood had a bit part in. Edit: I forgot I already brought this up many pages ago: Cat Hatter posted:When Marty is in 1955 saying that "Clint Eastwood never wore anything like this" there are two movie posters in the background for movies in which Clint Eastwood had uncredited roles. Cat Hatter has a new favorite as of 09:19 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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Cat Hatter posted:And if I remember correctly, during the "Clint who?" line there is a movie poster behind Doc for a movie Clint Eastwood had a bit part in. Not the first time they did that; in the first one, when Marty is walking around town confused, he passes a movie theater with a sign that says (IIRC) "Cattle Queen - Starring Ronald Reagan"
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I never knew until right now, but the last organization in WALL-E's credits, after the Pixar skit, is BnL. EDIT: this could also go into a Creepy Movie Moments thread, because something about the BnL logo popping up with its canned "Bee Enn Elllll!" sound is mildly disturbing to my ear. Maybe it's because it's without any background music or something.. MisterBibs has a new favorite as of 07:53 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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The MSJ posted:In Transformers: Age of Extinction, Mark Wahlberg goes to a movie theater that has been closed to buy some old equipments. The old guy who worked there was with him and complained that new movies are just sequels and remakes. He then points to a poster for 1966's El Dorado and that he likes the movie (or that it's a good movie, I forgot about that). Taking this to another level: Rio Bravo was remade three times by John Carpenter, all in different settings, and one of those remakes (Assault on Precinct 13) has itself been remade.
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I watched the HD version of 2001, and noticed that in the scene where Dave blasts his way back into the ship, once he's successfully gotten the outer door shut he has a triumphant smile on his face. The camera then immediately cuts back to HAL and lingers. Also, and this is unconfirmed, I read that when Frank and HAL are playing chess HAL tells Frank that he's lost in two or three moves and calls them incorrectly, which Frank nods and submits to. I'll check it out next time I watch to confirm.
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Professor Shark posted:I watched the HD version of 2001, and noticed that in the scene where Dave blasts his way back into the ship, once he's successfully gotten the outer door shut he has a triumphant smile on his face. The camera then immediately cuts back to HAL and lingers. Please actually do that thing about chess, because I do not know enough about chess to know if that's right either. And also now I really want to watch that movie again.
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# ? Jul 16, 2014 15:18 |
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It's one of the first signs that HAL is able to lie and has been lying about the mission. Some think that HAL does it on purpose so that the astronauts will get curious and find out about the mission. The reason for this being that HAL is programmed to be perfectly helpful, and keeping the mission a secret isn't exactly helpful, so HAL begins to do things to get the humans to realize something is amiss.
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Jedit posted:Taking this to another level: Rio Bravo was remade three times by John Carpenter, all in different settings, and one of those remakes (Assault on Precinct 13) has itself been remade.
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N. Senada posted:Please actually do that thing about chess, because I do not know enough about chess to know if that's right either. And also now I really want to watch that movie again. I had a Chessmaster game, I think 2000, that included this trivia. The game included many famous matches you could watch move by move and they provided brief commentary on each play at the bottom. HAL and Frank was one of the few fictitious games in there and they said as much at the end. I took their word for it. I don't know enough about chess either because I played Super Mario instead. And I hadn't heard the "giving them a sign" thing, Watermelon. That's a cool idea!
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# ? Jul 16, 2014 21:16 |
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Pilchenstein posted:What's the third film here? I'm guessing the second is Ghosts of Mars. Prince of Darkness. His most underrated film in my opinion.
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Basebf555 posted:Prince of Darkness. His most underrated film in my opinion. Yeah that was a good one.
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Professor Shark posted:I watched the HD version of 2001, and noticed that in the scene where Dave blasts his way back into the ship, once he's successfully gotten the outer door shut he has a triumphant smile on his face. The camera then immediately cuts back to HAL and lingers.
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# ? Jul 16, 2014 21:47 |
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KoRMaK posted:I don't get the relevance of this. What do you think it's suppose to convey? A triumphant show of human emotion vs a cold, programmed, murderous AI makes for good cinematography.
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# ? Jul 16, 2014 21:53 |
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KoRMaK posted:I don't get the relevance of this. What do you think it's suppose to convey? I hadn't noticed it before and HonorableTB posted:A triumphant show of human emotion vs a cold, programmed, murderous AI makes for good cinematography. HAL thought that Dave was beaten, unable to anticipate that he would do something so unconventional and risky (then mockingly relish his triumph with some real human Pride). It connected well with the chess game where Frank just gave up when HAL told him he was beaten.
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Fried Watermelon posted:It's one of the first signs that HAL is able to lie and has been lying about the mission. Some think that HAL does it on purpose so that the astronauts will get curious and find out about the mission. The reason for this being that HAL is programmed to be perfectly helpful, and keeping the mission a secret isn't exactly helpful, so HAL begins to do things to get the humans to realize something is amiss. That's loving awesome. Really, that's one of the greatest things I love about genuinely good movies. The add subtle moments that really deepen the plot and allow for actual analysis. I mean, the whole lone/twin pine(s) thing from Back to the Future is great, but some things like this are on an entirely different level. They don't simply foreshadow or whatever, but actually add to a character or plot in an unexpected way.
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# ? Jul 16, 2014 22:05 |
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Cool, there is a wiki entry for this scenequote:14... Bxg2 15. Re1 Qf3
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Professor Shark posted:
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# ? Jul 16, 2014 23:32 |
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Looking back, I "thought" that part but didn't actually type it, sorry!
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Taeke posted:That's loving awesome. Really, that's one of the greatest things I love about genuinely good movies. The add subtle moments that really deepen the plot and allow for actual analysis. I mean, the whole lone/twin pine(s) thing from Back to the Future is great, but some things like this are on an entirely different level. They don't simply foreshadow or whatever, but actually add to a character or plot in an unexpected way. I agree, and it's got me wondering now if there's any secret significance in the moves that Roy uses to help J.F Sebastian beat Tyrell in their chess game in Blade Runner.
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