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Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Azubah posted:

Why do some of you want an alternate evil version of the Saints?
Because the Saints won. Saints Row is an underdog story, once the Saints are on top they have to be the bad guys.

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dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


Even if this reasoning wasn't so flawed as to merit you being canonized all over again, is it really so hard to imagine a world where the Saints pissed off literally the entire universe with their shenanigans and can only escape the kind of angry mob that only astronomical scale can provide by going back in time?

Malek
Jun 22, 2003

Shut up Girl!
And as always: Kill Hitler.

Sir Unimaginative posted:

Even if this reasoning wasn't so flawed as to merit you being canonized all over again, is it really so hard to imagine a world where the Saints pissed off literally the entire universe with their shenanigans and can only escape the kind of angry mob that only astronomical scale can provide by going back in time?

I fail to see anything wrong with this logic.

(EDIT) Correction, the only thing wrong with this logic is that this is not a game I can spend money on.

Zigoot
Jan 30, 2008

Its too late your money is gay now

My Lovely Horse posted:

Saints Row had its time spoofing GTA, let's go Saints in Time and go for Assassin's Creed now.

This is really the direction the series should go. GTA is definitely not that relevant anymore, especially after how boring V's multiplayer (and single player) was. I really think 5 would work best as a send-up of the current state of the open-world genre. Now we have stuff like Assassin's Creed, Watch Dogs, maybe Fallout and Elder Scrolls, Far Cry, and even Borderlands to make fun of, and I think it could be really fun to see those painted purple.

Zigoot fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jul 16, 2014

tribbledirigible
Jul 27, 2004
I finally beat the internet. The end boss was hard.

SR 3 and 4 explored awesome hijack/ vehicle entry animations; they need to break ground on new dismounts in 5. May I suggest:

http://youtu.be/xonMpj2YyDU?t=22s
The calmer egress a la Red 2...

http://youtu.be/7yBnl_krN_U?t=11s
..or the more agressive exit like in Endhiran.

Tirranek
Feb 13, 2014

Saints Row going full on Crono Trigger, going into extreme pasts and futures for Steelport and ultimately fighting against some evil Lavos (that is actually World-core-god-emperor-future boss, or some such) is the only way this series can go in my mind.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Azubah posted:

Why do some of you want an alternate evil version of the Saints?

Wait... alternate?

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Tirranek posted:

Steelport

Ffffffffffffart.

Screw Steelport for SR5, let's go elsewhere.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Jerusalem posted:

Wait... alternate?

Puckish. Rogue.

SlothBear
Jan 25, 2009

chiasaur11 posted:

Puckish. Rogue.

So called.

mastajake
Oct 3, 2005

My blade is unBENDING!

Puckish rogue, she cries as she forces her enemy to run over his own girlfriend.

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


mastajake posted:

Puckish rogue, she cries as she forces her enemy to run over the bitch who had her protege tortured to death.

Doesn't stop anyone from being monstrous, but Jessica wasn't dragged into the game; she jumped in with both feet.

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



I'd love Saint's Creed: Purple Flag :getin:

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




How about Saints Row where you're taking over an city on an alien planet for absorption into the Saints Empire.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich
Man, playing watch_dogs has made me remember just how frigging massive the gap between gameplay and story is in a lot of sandbox games. Yes sis, I'll tend to your crippled son after I've pretended to be a rampaging spider robot, hacked someone's porn and stolen unstable chemical components to create grenades. Kind of easy to forget how consistently silly Saints Row is without really stumbling over itself.

DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

It's interesting how different opinions are on where the SR series should go from here. There are those who want the next game be as balls-to-the-wall insane (or more so) than SRIV, whereas others such as myself wish they'd just go back to the SR2 style of gameplay and humor instead of the whole "everything is crazy and wacky and probably a pop culture reference or parody" thing, and no matter what Volition does some of us are going to be somewhat disappointed.

Obviously, that's not to say anyone's opinion is wrong or that I'm not going to play the next Saints Row for 90+ hours regardless.

Universe Master
Jun 20, 2005

Darn Fine Pie

Going back to gangsters and car chases just seems so limiting after leaping off tall buildings and nuking the ground when you land.

Malek
Jun 22, 2003

Shut up Girl!
And as always: Kill Hitler.

SlothBear posted:

So called.

"A rose by any other name..."

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Malek posted:

"A rose by any other name..."

I don't listen to Scottish hip-hop.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
Turn based RPG. Totally throw everyone for a loop.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

You have no idea how all over that I would be.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich
Hey, if it worked for South Park...

Actually, you know what, I take that back. We need an Alpha Protocol style deconstruction of the sandbox genre from Obsidian. :colbert:

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




I would honestly not be surprised to have a turn-based segment, we already had the side-scrolling arcade fighting game, the top down tank mission, the text-based adventure...

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax

Common Sensei posted:

and even Borderlands to make fun of,


Borderlands 2 is the game where an NPC goes on a five minute rant about the impracticality of slut plate.

Saints Row 4 is the game where you shove rocket powered dildos up people's asses that launch them into space.

All I can say is, "yes, please."

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

MikeJF posted:

I would honestly not be surprised to have a turn-based segment, we already had the side-scrolling arcade fighting game, the top down tank mission, the text-based adventure...
Pierce gets stuck with the healer spot, there's a scripted bit where you gain a level and all manner of improbable stats rise by Disgaea-like amounts, you find the ultimate sword that you get to keep in the open world afterwards (and that is most likely suspiciously floppy)... it really writes itself.

Azubah
Jun 5, 2007

Jerusalem posted:

Wait... alternate?

Like others said, pucking rogue.

And a lot of that could of been avoided if you offer more than 30% and not try to kill the Boss/President/Divine Emperor of Mankind.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




My Lovely Horse posted:

Pierce gets stuck with the healer spot, there's a scripted bit where you gain a level and all manner of improbable stats rise by Disgaea-like amounts, you find the ultimate sword that you get to keep in the open world afterwards (and that is most likely suspiciously floppy)... it really writes itself.

I can just imagine the kind of stats you'd get in Saints Row.

Mikedawson
Jun 21, 2013

RPG where the primary weapon is an RPG.

Gynovore
Jun 17, 2009

Forget your RoboCoX or your StickyCoX or your EvilCoX, MY CoX has Blinking Bewbs!

WHY IS THIS GAME DEAD?!

Irish Joe posted:

Saints Row 4 is the game where you shove rocket powered dildos up people's asses that launch them into space.

I must have missed that part.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Gynovore posted:

I must have missed that part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wjjQWADEPc

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Gynovore posted:

I must have missed that part.

It was a pre-order item, its DLC now as well I think.

Head Hit Keyboard
Oct 9, 2012

It must be fate that has brought us together after all these years.

Kibayasu posted:

It was a pre-order item, its DLC now as well I think.

Actually it was a bonus for buying the season pass. Still is a part of the Season pass I think but it can be bought separately.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

I just finished Tomb Raider and there is both a verbatim "not without you" moment and a quick time event boss fight. Good game but it kinda takes balls to pull that off post-SR:TT.

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta

If you think that's the only game recently to have either/both of those things, boy do I have a surprise for you.

TheSpiritFox
Jan 4, 2009

I'm just a memory, I can't give you any new information.

MikeJF posted:

How about Saints Row where you're taking over an city on an alien planet for absorption into the Saints Empire.

Saint's Row meets Destroy All Humans Meets Watch Dogs Meets Something With Awesome Vehicle Mechanics.

MikeJF posted:

I would honestly not be surprised to have a turn-based segment, we already had the side-scrolling arcade fighting game, the top down tank mission, the text-based adventure...

I want the Saint's 40 man WoW raid segment. Johnny Gat is the Rogue, Shaundi is a Warrior, Pierce is whatever gimmick build is a complete joke.

:Edit:

Make pierce be a druid. Old Shaundi can try to smoke some part of him in tree form, and he can summon three mini pierces to help out, and he can spec into everything equally thus being completely useless in practice.

:Edit 2:

I haven't played WoW since TBC so I have no idea what WoW humor would be relevant these days.

TheSpiritFox fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jul 17, 2014

Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

TheSpiritFox posted:

Saint's Row meets Destroy All Humans Meets Watch Dogs Meets Something With Awesome Vehicle Mechanics.


I want the Saint's 40 man WoW raid segment. Johnny Gat is the Rogue, Shaundi is a Warrior, Pierce is whatever gimmick build is a complete joke.

:Edit:

Make pierce be a druid. Old Shaundi can try to smoke some part of him in tree form, and he can summon three mini pierces to help out, and spec into everything equally thus being completely useless in practice.

Pierce would totally be a bard. No question.

TheSpiritFox
Jan 4, 2009

I'm just a memory, I can't give you any new information.

Crappy Jack posted:

Pierce would totally be a bard. No question.

This also works. Let him be something useless from a completely different set of RPG rules.

mastajake
Oct 3, 2005

My blade is unBENDING!

The games try to tell you Johnny Gat is the best character, but we all know it's Pierce. Pierce should actually be the most powerful character but everyone sees it as Shaundi attacking.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Johnny is the tank, Shaundi is the rogue, Pierce is the healer, Matt and Kinzie are buffers. Buffs would negate all need for healing. Boss takes a look at this poo poo and becomes the all-rounder main character with the best stats and best affinity with each weapon class.

e: going by D&D the bard can also be the healer in which case Pierce's sole useful ability is to sing duets with the boss, but that does buff him into the stratosphere.

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Mikedawson
Jun 21, 2013

Pierce is my personal favorite character in the series, pre and post his complete change in character.

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