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haljordan posted:Which character on the show do you guys think got the worst beat-down (murders don't count)? Does Melfi qualify?
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Beansie was by far the worst mostly because he was basically paralyzed (iirc?) and the aftermath was shown in horrific detail. Chris and Paulie killing the waiter who they stiffed is terrible to. Artie getting his hand held in boiling hot marinara was pretty brutal. Coco was probably the most brutal but it felt somewhat more deserved than the others. "funnier"/most frequent beat downs go to the bartender at the Bing that Tony takes out his anger on on countless occasions. It's easy to forget how loving appallingly terrible most of the human beings on this show were...
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thathonkey posted:Beansie was by far the worst mostly because he was basically paralyzed (iirc?) and the aftermath was shown in horrific detail. They really were just horrible sociopaths most of the time. They even comment on how if "Joe Blow on the streets" hit a made guy then he'd get wacked. That insular world where they get away with some much crime daily reflected on how they dealt with outsiders, like how the no-work guys would constantly assault the construction workers, Vito simply killing the guy he rear-ended rather then risk getting found, Chris braining that waiter, etc. Oh, and Paulie suffocating that old woman who lived with his mother because he had a few weeks of light envelopes to make up. Even as connected as they were, the constantly stream of publicly beating civilians and murder out of convenience would just be a treasure trove of legal poo poo the FBI could use to bring them down. Luckily the only thing they universally excelled at was having connections in the PD and court systems and being able to kill any rats before they fed the FBI crucial info.
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Jul 18, 2014 03:23
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thathonkey posted:Beansie was by far the worst mostly because he was basically paralyzed (iirc?) and the aftermath was shown in horrific detail. Beansie's appearance in season 6B has me thinking otherwise. His paralization's silver lining was his way out of North Jersey. He seemed to be doing well emotionally and financially. He still has a relationship with his wife (? daughter?)--the woman he said he'd email the pictures to. He can't walk, viewers feel bad. But consider how Beansie is doing by the end of Made in America, and consider how others, and their families are: Tony, Silvio, Bobby, Junior, Phil.
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Jul 18, 2014 03:50
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Yeah but Beansie wasn't even in the mob, right?
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PantsBandit posted:So people were talking about this earlier but I'm trying to stop from looking at posts not directly related to mine since I'm still working through the show. I just made it to season 4 and it really is a shame how Furio has turned out. When they first made their journey to Italy and saw that man get brutalized in the street, it was an extremely memorable moment. It drew parallels between American organized crime and Italian, while simultaneously being alien and clearly making Tony and co pretty uncomfortable. When Furio first came over to America, I was thrilled, he was like a little souvenir of that brutality. This was especially emphasized by his first major scene where he shoots an unarmed man in the kneecap. And then after that he pretty much just disappeared off the map (well, other than beating up Jackie Jrs drug dealing buddy). And now he's a new romantic interest for Carmella? Such a waste of a potentially really cool character. You know who had an arc? Noah.
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Jul 18, 2014 04:15
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thathonkey posted:Yeah but Beansie wasn't even in the mob, right? There is no way he was a made guy, or else Richie would have faced severe reprisal for beating him like that. Tony was acting Boss and he got tons of poo poo for roughing up Ralphie. I think was kind of like Hesh, not made but definitely connected.
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Jul 18, 2014 08:13
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Paulie and Chris bonding and having a heart to heart over the phone after killing that waiter cracks me up every time.
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Your Gay Uncle posted:There is no way he was a made guy, or else Richie would have faced severe reprisal for beating him like that. Tony was acting Boss and he got tons of poo poo for roughing up Ralphie. I think was kind of like Hesh, not made but definitely connected. I think he was less involved than Hesh even. All we see is that he is the owner of a couple of pizza restaurants that Ritchie Aprile alluded to having given him money to start (iirc) so when he got out of jail he felt entitled to some of the earnings. Beansie felt otherwise. Hesh ran a sports gambling business and maybe more.
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Jul 18, 2014 13:26
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Hesh was a loan shark. Beansie was kinda like Artie, familiar with mobsters but never truly a part of them.
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Jul 18, 2014 13:41
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Brasseye posted:Paulie and Chris bonding and having a heart to heart over the phone after killing that waiter cracks me up every time. Hey one of them could have been hurt!
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Jul 18, 2014 14:53
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Jul 18, 2014 15:02
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MrBling posted:Hesh was a loan shark. Beansie was kinda like Artie, familiar with mobsters but never truly a part of them. Hesh also has his music business that he ran with Johnny Boy (Tony's dad)
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Jul 18, 2014 15:47
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Pron on VHS posted:Also the waiter that Chris stiffed (I know he became a murder seconds later but the break to the head was brutal). Something about brain damage from a beating to the head really makes me queasy "Don't they have medication they're supposed to take, these assholes?"
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Pope Corky the IX posted:"Don't they have medication they're supposed to take, these assholes?" I dunno what kind of meds they prescribe to counteract a brick upside the thinkpiece. Brasseye posted:Paulie and Chris bonding and having a heart to heart over the phone after killing that waiter cracks me up every time. That's such a quick scene but it does a great job illustrating what others have mentioned in this thread: That pretty much every single person on the show is a total sociopath. "Someone could've gotten hurt! Well, aside from that totally innocent waiter we murdered in cold blood in a parking lot." haljordan fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Jul 18, 2014 |
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Jul 18, 2014 18:06
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They thought he was an epileptic or something cause he went into convulsions after getting bricked in the head. For some reason it didn't occur to them that a brick to the skull would also probably cause that kind of reaction.
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Jul 18, 2014 18:14
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thathonkey posted:They thought he was an epileptic or something cause he went into convulsions after getting bricked in the head. For some reason it didn't occur to them that a brick to the skull would also probably cause that kind of reaction. It also didn't occur to them that bashing a man's skull in with a brick and then executing him miiiiiight not be a great idea.
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Paulie probably thought of it as cleaning up. They were already in trouble so might as well not leave a witness in case he ever regained his faculties.
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Jul 18, 2014 18:18
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Snapchat A Titty posted:Paulie probably thought of it as cleaning up. They were already in trouble so might as well not leave a witness in case he ever regained his faculties. It's cool, no one knows them down there.
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Jul 18, 2014 18:23
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They were probably doing the guy a favor by killing him; the shape he was in.
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Jul 18, 2014 18:33
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Bonzo posted:Hesh also has his music business that he ran with Johnny Boy (Tony's dad) That seemed like an extension of the loan business though. Hesh was very much a money-man in that, signing the artists (and taking writing credits despite not doing anything) and Johnny Boy and his crew would persuade radio stations to play the songs. But yeah, it was another facet of how connected Hesh was.
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Jul 18, 2014 18:40
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That scene should stand as a warning to all waiters not to go after poor tippers. Sometimes they are assholes, but sometimes they are ASSHOLES .
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Jul 18, 2014 18:50
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withak posted:They were probably doing the guy a favor by killing him; the shape he was in. I considered that Paulie thought of it as a mercy, but I doubt he'd give a poo poo about the guy enough to even make that call one way or the other.
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Jul 18, 2014 19:05
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"Thats my money Paulie!" when theyre running off is one of the greatest lines
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Jul 18, 2014 21:00
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haljordan posted:I dunno what kind of meds they prescribe to counteract a brick upside the thinkpiece. It's amazing how petty they could be. The whole Chris/Paulie thing started over a $850 bill and it almost came down to 2 made guys killing each other over it. And the thing with the waiter, Paulie just shoots him once, then grabs the cash from the bill while Chris is shouting "That's MY money!" as they race out of the parking lot. pentyne fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Jul 18, 2014 |
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Jul 18, 2014 23:37
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Actually, the Chris/Paulie feud started way back in season three as soon as Chrissy was made. He took over the sports betting operation and refused to listen to any advice and didn't want to do things they way Paulie had done in the past. He ended up owing Paulie a lot of money which led to getting Jackie Jr. involved in the armed robbery of a charity event. After a while, it moved from just a business feud to a personal one, with the constant hazing of Christopher, the whole "Paulie sniffs Adriana's panties" issue, etc. Then there was the Pine Barrens incident, Christopher's ascension while Paulie was in jail, his addiction and time in rehab, and on and on. It really never stopped, which was why Paulie was so broken up after Christopher's death.
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pentyne posted:It's amazing how petty they could be. The whole Chris/Paulie thing started over a $850 bill and it almost came down to 2 made guys killing each other over it. To be fair it was 1200 bucks including tip (1184 excluding) But yeah, that was brewing all the way since "Chrissy" got the nod.
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We're talking about worst beatings that got dealt on the show, and not one mention of poor Sal Vitro. Guy had a legitimate job that wasn't connected to the mob at all until Feech got out of jail and decided that he wanted to set his nephew up in lawn care. The way his arm was broken still makes me cringe just thinking about it.
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Jul 19, 2014 00:41
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How about I gently caress off all over your face! is an excellent line.
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mints posted:We're talking about worst beatings that got dealt on the show, and not one mention of poor Sal Vitro. Guy had a legitimate job that wasn't connected to the mob at all until Feech got out of jail and decided that he wanted to set his nephew up in lawn care. The way his arm was broken still makes me cringe just thinking about it. Not to mention constantly looking so glum about having to do all of those lawns for free. The happy look on his face when Tony told him that he could finally stop doing Johnny Sac's lawn was great. edit: He also got arrested by the FBI for shoveling snow.
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Jul 19, 2014 00:54
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withak posted:Not to mention constantly looking so glum about having to do all of those lawns for free. "What a mope!" as Carmela calls him. Empathy at work.
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mints posted:We're talking about worst beatings that got dealt on the show, and not one mention of poor Sal Vitro. Guy had a legitimate job that wasn't connected to the mob at all until Feech got out of jail and decided that he wanted to set his nephew up in lawn care. The way his arm was broken still makes me cringe just thinking about it. Vito's cousin the construction guy. Beat into a coma by that one mobster. Oh, and this was in the news. 'Sopranos' star's ex-husband, others accused in $300 million stock fraud quote:U.S. authorities unveiled criminal charges on Thursday accusing seven people, including a banking executive once married to a star of "The Sopranos," of running a $300 million stock manipulation scheme that cheated elderly and other investors. pentyne fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Jul 19, 2014 |
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mints posted:We're talking about worst beatings that got dealt on the show, and not one mention of poor Sal Vitro. Guy had a legitimate job that wasn't connected to the mob at all until Feech got out of jail and decided that he wanted to set his nephew up in lawn care. The way his arm was broken still makes me cringe just thinking about it. Paulie listening to Sun Tzu on audio-book, then stopping to beat the poo poo out of two dudes over a lawncare territory dispute was hilarious.
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Jul 19, 2014 01:17
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Contrariwise, he should have let them do their bidding, suavely.
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Jul 19, 2014 01:23
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pentyne posted:Oh, and this was in the news. Kinda sad that they felt the need to prominently mention the Sopranos and Jamie-Lynn Sigler, presumably because they felt that nobody would read the story about massive fraud otherwise. 
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Jul 19, 2014 01:29
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Paulie is so god drat sneaky.
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PantsBandit posted:I love the scenes where Tony gets to interact with animals And kids. Janice's daughter is going to be spoiled as poo poo.
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DarkCrawler posted:And kids. Janice's daughter is going to be spoiled as poo poo. And broken as poo poo because: DarkCrawler posted:Janice's daughter
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Jul 19, 2014 14:47
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Jerusalem posted:Paulie listening to Sun Tzu on audio-book, then stopping to beat the poo poo out of two dudes over a lawncare territory dispute was hilarious. He's like the Chinese Prince Machiavelli. e: The way Paulie smiles and nods along with the audiobook in that scene is hilarious, too.
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Tao Jones posted:He's like the Chinese Prince Machiavelli. Paulie: "Sun Te-Zoo, you know, the Chinese guy. Sun Te-Zoo. Tony turned me onto him" Chris "Who?" Paulie "Sun Te-Zoo" Silvio "It's Sun Zoo you illiterate gently caress!"
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