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seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
Good news! Tim Eyman's latest initiative to try and reduce state revenue by slashing the sales tax won't be on the ballot this November because he failed to collect the amount of signatures needed. This will be the first time since 2006 that there isn't an Eyman initiative on the ballot. He's been struggling because one of his biggest money-funding old men croaked last year, and businesses are starting to see that his initiatives rarely pass, or if they do, get defeated in court because they're unconstitutional.

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mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
Did anyone else run by Cannabis City yesterday? I went by with a friend around 7pm and it was a pretty good scene. About an hour wait but everyone was super friendly including the security folks and employees. They were letting about 5 people into the store at a time and it was loaded with news cameras.

For the product they were starting to run low and probably sold out a few hours later. Price was pretty bad, $20/gram in 2 gram packages. The price included all the taxes though. They only had indica strains available, no sativa right now.

Overall was a pretty cool experience and landmark moment.

SyHopeful
Jun 24, 2007
May an IDF soldier mistakenly gun down my own parents and face no repercussions i'd totally be cool with it cuz accidents are unavoidable in a low-intensity conflict, man

mod sassinator posted:

Did anyone else run by Cannabis City yesterday? I went by with a friend around 7pm and it was a pretty good scene. About an hour wait but everyone was super friendly including the security folks and employees. They were letting about 5 people into the store at a time and it was loaded with news cameras.

For the product they were starting to run low and probably sold out a few hours later. Price was pretty bad, $20/gram in 2 gram packages. The price included all the taxes though. They only had indica strains available, no sativa right now.

Overall was a pretty cool experience and landmark moment.

Jeez. Back in Alaska in ~2000 a gram was $25. Guess we were getting ripped off instead of just ripped.

wheez the roux
Aug 2, 2004
THEY SHOULD'VE GIVEN IT TO LYNCH

Death to the Seahawks. Death to Seahawks posters.

SyHopeful posted:

Jeez. Back in Alaska in ~2000 a gram was $25. Guess we were getting ripped off instead of just ripped.

you, specifically, were getting ripped off because that was not and by no means has ever in the bast 2 decades been a reasonable price for even the dankest of fire in AK. unless you were way out in the Bush, in which case, yeah it was around that.

I mean god drat Girdwood is built entirely on Skiing, Snowboarding, and Marijuana.

SyHopeful
Jun 24, 2007
May an IDF soldier mistakenly gun down my own parents and face no repercussions i'd totally be cool with it cuz accidents are unavoidable in a low-intensity conflict, man

wheez the roux posted:

you, specifically, were getting ripped off because that was not and by no means has ever in the bast 2 decades been a reasonable price for even the dankest of fire in AK. unless you were way out in the Bush, in which case, yeah it was around that.

I mean god drat Girdwood is built entirely on Skiing, Snowboarding, and Marijuana.

This was Juneau and we were high school dumbasses with no real understanding of what we should be paying, haha.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

Magres posted:

In that case, Seattle's $15 minimum wage is going to be on the ballot for repeal this November. Get out the vote and block this loving nonsense.

Jesus Christ, don't read the comments. I love this:

quote:

She also argued her group is not opposed to minimum wage increases. Rather, she said they are objecting to the process in Seattle that led to passage of the measure, to which members offered alternatives.
So... the Mayor gathered together a committee of business and labor leaders who hammered out a piece of compromise legislation, which was then submitted to (and unanimously approved by) the elected representatives of the City of Seattle, and signed by the Mayor; what, exactly, is she objecting to?

gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.

Waddley Hasselhoff posted:

They closed at 5, I'll do this tomorrow. Thank you!

Working Washington has information for how to get your signature stricken here: http://www.workingwa.org/2014/07/09/urgent-voter-alert-have-chance-withdraw-your-signature-from-forward-seattles-minimum-wage-petition/

They say you have to do it in writing and the request must be received by close of business Thursday at the latest.

Magres
Jul 14, 2011
http://horsesass.org/stick-a-fork-in-it-forward-seattles-anti-15-minimum-wage-referendum-will-not-qualify-for-the-ballot/

quote:

So stick a fork in it, this referendum is done! And it’s not even close: Forward Seattle will fall a couple thousand signatures short of the threshold. There will not be a $15 minimum wage referendum on the November ballot.

HUZZAH! The link goes into more detail about the numbers, and concludes with that tidbit.

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
Jess Spear, who ran Sawant's campaign is going up against Frank Chopp.

http://www.votespear.org/about

In case anyone is interested in volunteering or donating or saying how much you hate socialists. whatevs.

They just called me and i got put into the volunteer pool I think. I told them my job is answering phones all day as it is so i'd really prefer to stuff envelopes in a quiet place.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

Magres posted:

http://horsesass.org/stick-a-fork-in-it-forward-seattles-anti-15-minimum-wage-referendum-will-not-qualify-for-the-ballot/


HUZZAH! The link goes into more detail about the numbers, and concludes with that tidbit.

I'm sure they'll push another one at the next opportunity. This is probably a battle we'll be fighting for the next seven years or so.

Magres
Jul 14, 2011

Thanatosian posted:

I'm sure they'll push another one at the next opportunity. This is probably a battle we'll be fighting for the next seven years or so.

Even if it's only the first victory of many needed to cement things, it's still a win :shrug:

And each time they fail it gets harder to roll it back.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

seiferguy posted:

Good news! Tim Eyman's latest initiative to try and reduce state revenue by slashing the sales tax won't be on the ballot this November because he failed to collect the amount of signatures needed. This will be the first time since 2006 that there isn't an Eyman initiative on the ballot. He's been struggling because one of his biggest money-funding old men croaked last year, and businesses are starting to see that his initiatives rarely pass, or if they do, get defeated in court because they're unconstitutional.

Wow, the one time I would've voted for his crap.

oxbrain
Aug 18, 2005

Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip and come on up to the mothership.

effectual posted:

Wow, the one time I would've voted for his crap.

He forgot the other part of the initiative. It was slash the sales tax, unless congress passes a constitutional amendment reinstating the 2/3rds vote to increase taxes. It would have been declared unconstitutional again and got nowhere.

Gerund
Sep 12, 2007

He push a man


oxbrain posted:

He forgot the other part of the initiative. It was slash the sales tax, unless congress passes a constitutional amendment reinstating the 2/3rds vote to increase taxes. It would have been declared unconstitutional again and got nowhere.

Heck yeah an IF/THAN initiative. Why not go whole hog and code in php for a new judicial system?

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Apparently Da Vinci Days was cancelled this year due to the festival not being profitable. Looks like they are still doing the kinetic race, but I'm not sure about schlepping up to Corvallis just for that. Also, they tend to do that at some ungodly hour like 10am or something.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Hi local gov goon in the Seattle subs here, I can shed some light on the frequency of shops in each area.

Basically the liquor boards decided in lottery by application who can apply for a local business permit to sell weed. The winner can then apply to the jurisdiction they're interested in for a business permit.

In my city this resulted in 6 permits being applied for before anyone understood this. Names like Purple Haze and Mary Jane Co. Were popular.

Since then we've had a smattering of people attempt to apply. County ordinance says the shops have to be 1000 feet from schools and daycare centers, which is apparently really hard to grasp.

I don't know why someone applied to sell at the existing location of a bartell drugs, they don't lease the location? Someone else applied to sell out of their residence, which is a ha no. A third applied to put their shop next to a kindercare center.

What I'm getting at is that reading regulations doesn't seem to be working out for potential sellers thus far.

RuanGacho fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jul 17, 2014

HondaCivet
Oct 16, 2005

And then it falls
And then I fall
And then I know


Hello thread, I'm a Midwest transplant who has been in Portland for a few years. This thread is really cool and I will be following it to learn more about the politics of the area. I don't have much to contribute right now except a thank you for a rad thread. :buddy:

Kaal
May 22, 2002

through thousands of posts in D&D over a decade, I now believe I know what I'm talking about. if I post forcefully and confidently, I can convince others that is true. no one sees through my facade.

CaptainSarcastic posted:

Apparently Da Vinci Days was cancelled this year due to the festival not being profitable. Looks like they are still doing the kinetic race, but I'm not sure about schlepping up to Corvallis just for that. Also, they tend to do that at some ungodly hour like 10am or something.

Yeah it's been a recurrent issue for the last few years. They could hold the festival, but they were beginning to have serious doubts about its sustainability. My understanding is that money from the various institutions around Corvallis was drying up a bit, and that there was an overall concern about a lack of focus. It's a great festival with a lot of moving parts, but it's difficult to identify what are the most important elements to emphasize. Is it an arts and music festival with the big stage shows? Is it a platform for promoting STEM education to kids? What is the role of the food vendors, or the film festival? What is it's relationship to the coincidental Kinetic Sculpture Race or the stage productions at the Majestic Theatre? Lots of questions to answer. So they decided to take a year off and think about it. Hopefully it won't turn into two years, as it has always been one of my favorite festivals. That said, the Kinetic Sculpture race is a blast to watch, and definitely worth a look if you haven't taken the opportunity to before.

Beowulfs_Ghost
Nov 6, 2009

RuanGacho posted:

What im getting at is that read regs doesnt seem to be working out for potential sellers thus far.

This is pretty much just a universal problem with small businesses. There pretty much are no requirements for starting your own business beyond paying some fees.

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
Small business owners are by and large morons who are just exercising their god given rights to own a business and make magic profit. (The ones i've worked for anyway)
There's a reason such a high number ultimately fail with the owners in the hole in the tens of thousands.

Also - they have a huge tendency to resist making doing taxes easy with like the quickbooks small business edition. Always gotta go to some accountant who is supposedly going to save them so much more money. Realistically they're probably aching for an audit.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Our City Council seems to be muted about if they have any strong feelings about there being actual businesses selling pot, they are afraid enough of being percieved as anti-free enterprise to not talk about any potential ban on selling.

They did bring up about if there should be an ordinance banning city staff from consuming pot though. As the youngest member of regular staff I found this particularly amusing.

Today on KUOW during the 12:00 hour they were talking with a University of Washington Professor about the basics of pot laced food consumption. After a lifetime of the DARE program scare tactics it was kind of surreal when the host was asking questions like "Where do you suggest people new to this go, being that it's legal everywhere?"

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
So where the hell are the legal dispensaries? Is there a list? Googling just gives me hundreds of medical only ones.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

effectual posted:

So where the hell are the legal dispensaries? Is there a list? Googling just gives me hundreds of medical only ones.

Being that I've only heard of half a dozen even being approved in any area, and knowing what it takes for Cities and counties to update that data, google will be about 6 months behind the municipal data unless they happen to check it right after an update.

Generally speaking what happens is Permit is issued -> Building Permit approved -> <stuff happens> business has final address -> local government collects/updates data -> higher up government collects/shares/misrecords data -> yellow pages and others scrape data for free from public records and then sell it -> a ditch in the middle of no where is now listed as the location of adult entertainment category business Pima Medical Institute.



Street View

RuanGacho fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Jul 19, 2014

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

effectual posted:

So where the hell are the legal dispensaries? Is there a list? Googling just gives me hundreds of medical only ones.

where are you located? Here is a list of stores with phone numbers so you can call and see if they are open. A lot aren't because they either ran out or never had enough supply to open in the first place. Oops didn't include the actual link: https://lcb.app.box.com/retail-7-7

Wanamingo
Feb 22, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

effectual posted:

So where the hell are the legal dispensaries? Is there a list? Googling just gives me hundreds of medical only ones.

This was posted earlier in the thread. As far as I know, it's only these 25 places.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/marijuana...09=0&14194111=0

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007



Gotta wonder what "Shlort Incorporated" does. It's wonderfully onomatopoetic.

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:
Down here, one of the deputies is running for sheriff. This week he got fired, and somehow people are shocked. Who'da thunk trying to oust your boss was a potential bad move?

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Javid posted:

Down here, one of the deputies is running for sheriff. This week he got fired, and somehow people are shocked. Who'da thunk trying to oust your boss was a potential bad move?

In Washington that's illegal. If the deputy can provide any evidence at all that it wasn't performance related the sheriff would be in poo poo. The law leans on the side of the worker.

Mrit
Sep 26, 2007

by exmarx
Grimey Drawer

Javid posted:

Down here, one of the deputies is running for sheriff. This week he got fired, and somehow people are shocked. Who'da thunk trying to oust your boss was a potential bad move?

All this proves is that his boss is probably poo poo and has likely made his own campaign more difficult which means he's an idiot so...
Guess it all works out?

SyHopeful
Jun 24, 2007
May an IDF soldier mistakenly gun down my own parents and face no repercussions i'd totally be cool with it cuz accidents are unavoidable in a low-intensity conflict, man

RuanGacho posted:

The law leans on the side of the worker.

Yeah if you're a LEO

logger
Jun 28, 2008

...and in what manner the Ancyent Marinere came back to his own Country.
Soiled Meat
Primary time for the 2014 elections has come, and looking through the voters pamphlet for Snohomish County I came across this little batch of crazy from one of the candidates for county executive.

quote:

The statements below are printed as submitted. The Elections Division has no editorial authority.

James Robert Deal(Prefers Democratic Party)
Other Professional Experience: Lawyer since 1978
Education: University of Washington Law School
Statement: My goals are to:

●Enact a minimum wage law modeled after Seattle’s.
●Build a fiber optic internet as Mount Vernon has done. It will be a business magnet.
●Fight coal trains. They will deposit mercury along our shoreline, ruining our fisheries.
●Rebrand Snohomish County as “The Organic County” and ban the growing of GMO crops as counties in California and Oregon have done. Our farmers will get rich.
●Stop PUD purchases of electricity from the dirty, dangerous, and expensive nuclear power plant at Hanford.
●End the spraying of Roundup on roads and streets.
●Lower the voting age in County elections to 16.
●Ban carry home plastic bags.
●Establish more bicycle routes. Cycling is a form of mass transit.
●Insure that open meetings are really open.
●Stop the adding of dental chemicals to our drinking water. This filth is the toxic waste scrubber liquor from the smokestacks of phosphate fertilizer plants. It contains lead, arsenic, mercury, cadmium, and thallium. It leaches lead from plumbing.It is a chemical company fraud like DDT, Roundup, and tetraethyl lead. It harms fetuses and infants the most. There are better ways to fight tooth
decay.

Now granted some of his positions are reasonable, but I can't take his anti-science conspiracy stance. The worst part is I was telling my dad about his positions and he seemed interested in voting for him. :sigh:

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
Yes, let's vote for people who believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ instead, they're pro-science.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

SedanChair posted:

Yes, let's vote for people who believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ instead, they're pro-science.

Awesome false dichotomy dude.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Solkanar512 posted:

Awesome false dichotomy dude.

No problem, I love it that being anti-nuclear will literally send goons into an epileptic fit.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



SedanChair posted:

No problem, I love it that being anti-nuclear will literally send goons into an epileptic fit.

I think the most glaring thing is the Strangelove-esque position on fluoridation, really.

logger
Jun 28, 2008

...and in what manner the Ancyent Marinere came back to his own Country.
Soiled Meat

SedanChair posted:

No problem, I love it that being anti-nuclear will literally send goons into an epileptic fit.

What in my post made you think I was having epileptic fits about it, or were you just projecting your reaction to my post.

Gerund
Sep 12, 2007

He push a man


logger posted:

Primary time for the 2014 elections has come, and looking through the voters pamphlet for Snohomish County I came across this little batch of crazy from one of the candidates for county executive.


Now granted some of his positions are reasonable, but I can't take his anti-science conspiracy stance. The worst part is I was telling my dad about his positions and he seemed interested in voting for him. :sigh:

Hanford is a lovely nuclear power plant, though. Captain Planet villain bad.

And if flouride is your own pet issue, to the point that it prevents you from voting for the candidate, I have bad news for you regarding any modern politician with a stated opinion on the issue.

A decidedly not-poo poo candidate on a good number of real, actionable issues is pretty much a gift from god in that neck of the woods.

Hedera Helix
Sep 2, 2011

The laws of the fiesta mean nothing!
If the nuclear plant over in the Tri-Cities area is shut down, it's going to be replaced with coal or gas. They're not going to build another hydroelectric dam, and solar and wind aren't going to be able to fill that gap. Also, Hanford and Columbia Generating Station are two different things; Hanford is the one with the hideous waste disposal problems, going back to atomic bomb development during WWII. But it's good to see people conflating them, makes it easier to campaign for the plant's shutdown and replacement with fossil fuels.

SedanChair posted:

No problem, I love it that being anti-nuclear will literally send goons into an epileptic fit.

It's quite distressing that self-described environmentalists and climate change activists will go out of their way to wreck one of the only power sources that doesn't vomit greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Hedera Helix posted:

If the nuclear plant over in the Tri-Cities area is shut down, it's going to be replaced with coal or gas. They're not going to build another hydroelectric dam, and solar and wind aren't going to be able to fill that gap. Also, Hanford and Columbia Generating Station are two different things; Hanford is the one with the hideous waste disposal problems, going back to atomic bomb development during WWII. But it's good to see people conflating them, makes it easier to campaign for the plant's shutdown and replacement with fossil fuels.


It's quite distressing that self-described environmentalists and climate change activists will go out of their way to wreck one of the only power sources that doesn't vomit greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

No, it just poisons the Columbia river and the fish in it we eat.

Doubt the guy will win anyway, anyone that populist on the eastside has a snowballs chance in hell.

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Hedera Helix
Sep 2, 2011

The laws of the fiesta mean nothing!

effectual posted:

No, it just poisons the Columbia river and the fish in it we eat.

Mercury and PCB contamination in fish is a much, much bigger concern in that regard, like orders of magnitude greater in terms of threats to human health.

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