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You don't have to actually install Wine for the Winbox port, just download someone else's port of it. Only issue is that it takes a little while to initially load, and when Winbox fails a connection it closes the program by default, so you have to constantly open/close Winbox manually to make a new connection or such. I just use a VM of Windows for Winbox needs, as it runs a little faster than the wine port.
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Is an RB333/RB433 going to have enough beef to run a modern small home LAN? I don't need breakneck bandwidth but do want dual band and N. This is going in an RV and our WAN will be provided via a roof mount Ubiquiti nanostation, and we have a wired LAN so need multiple ethernet ports. Thinking one of these with a R52N card should be a good start? I got burned on this Netgear and am tired of dealing with crap. If it is a bad idea to pick up one of these used, I'd really appreciate a suggestion for an in-production model that will cover the bases here.
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It will work fine. It's got plenty of power for home use.
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Cool, grabbed that for $40 shipped, seems like a great deal. Can I save a few bucks with a compatible non-Mikrotik wifi card, or should I pony up for the R52N?
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Jonny 290 posted:Cool, grabbed that for $40 shipped, seems like a great deal. Can I save a few bucks with a compatible non-Mikrotik wifi card, or should I pony up for the R52N? It should work okay with whatever minipci card you have. Atheros chipsets are preferred.
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Possibly stupid question regarding gear selection (I'm not really a network admin, it just comes up now and then): My brother in law and in-laws have adjacent properties; the main houses are about 1/3-1/2 a mile apart with some semi-sparse tree cover in between. (There is also a slight elevation difference, on the order of 20' or so.) One house has a satellite uplink and the usual consumer router/AP setup (I forget the brand, possibly netgear; it came from the provider if I remember right). Would it be feasible to connect the house-with-internet to the house-without using something like a pair of SXT-Lite2s? (Or Lite5s?) Then I'm guessing the "remote" house would have its own router/AP (e.g. 951 series or the like). In order to set up wifi roaming, I'm guessing WDS is the acronym to look for information on? The backhaul link configs don't look too bad between a pair of SXTs so I'm not too worried about that, but more the range/mounting question (need poles/lightening protection, I guess?) and how much of a pain wifi roaming would be to set up in a scenario like that. Anyone have experience with something like this? Any pitfalls/gotchas?
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volkadav posted:My brother in law and in-laws have adjacent properties; the main houses are about 1/3-1/2 a mile apart with some semi-sparse tree cover in between. It's not optimal because trees mess up wifi signals but go buy a pair of Ubiquiti Nanostation Loco M5's, put one at each house and point them at each other and then forget about them existing because you should have a hella huge link between the houses that runs forever. Basically.
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volkadav posted:My brother in law and in-laws have adjacent properties; the main houses are about 1/3-1/2 a mile apart with some semi-sparse tree cover in between.[…] Aye! What is a »semi-sparse tree cover«? How much trees? How thick and dense (→ water, dampening) is their crown? Does the Fresnel zone touch ground?… You see, it is hard to give good advice without actually visiting your location, or having a very good photo covering both sites (aerial, and one from the side). That goes especially for recommending an antenna. 900 MHz will be better than 2.4 GHz, which is better than 5 GHz for the given scenario. 5 GHz will be dampened more. My advice based on experience and guesstimation is this: • SXT Lite 2 or SXT Lite 5? → I've had problems with several SXT 5. Go for the 2 GHz one. • If you can, get a non-lite version. • If your regulatory restrictions allow it, get a: Metal 9HPn and directional antenna. 900 MHz rocks, even if trees are in the Fresnel zone. • If you can afford it, get a QRT-2 or Metal 2SHPn + antenna. EDIT: awful grammar and typos der_tsu fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Jul 4, 2014 |
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Jul 3, 2014 13:07
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Right on, thanks folks! Semi-sparse trees = the kind of dry, scrubby "trees" you'd expect to find in a part of the American southwest that doesn't get very much rain; cedars mostly I think. They're even kind of green, sometimes! But that might be the heatstroke talking...  It isn't exactly desert land but you could be forgiven for thinking so during most months.
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Ugh, I've had poo poo luck with the dozen odd Metals we have deployed. You could get the Ubiquiti Nanostation Loco M2 to get 2.4GHz gear that will work better through trees. MikroTik stuff is fine but for this application I would stick with the Ubiquiti gear.
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Well, that was a short honeymoon. I got my R52N card, and nothing was showing up in Winbox so I figured i would upgrade from ancient 3.30 to somethign newer. After getting 4.17 on there, I dropped the 5.26 file into Files, rebooted and.....the thing's a brick now. The green LED is staying on, no powerup beeps at all, no network function. What the gently caress did I just do? I google "rb333 green LED stays on" and get a terrifying document talking about replacing RAM chips and inductors. Did I get hosed on this? I did upgrade the license coming out of 3.30 successfully. e: Something about netinstall but the gender is wrong on my USB to serial adapter so now I get to buy more poo poo to fix this....ugh. Jonny 290 fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Jul 12, 2014 |
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http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Netinstall#Configuring_RouterBOARD_without_COM_port AFAIK you can do this all over ethernet. edit: Couldn't find your board on routerboard.com but Tom Harker still has the manual on his store http://www.roc-noc.com/product.php?productid=12 if you need it edit2: Do you have the right serial cable? It probably takes a null modem cable. Many moons ago you could find that sort of thing at Radio Shack. edit3: You probably thought of all this already, good luck. thebigcow fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Jul 12, 2014 |
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AAAAAAH and now i can't run Netinstall because windows 7 64-bit and I can't turn off whatever antivirus is causing it to fail bind() operations. Trying to stay cool, I like the hardware but am becoming frustrated pretty fast. Supposedly these boards take 6.xx just fine even. I even tested the voltages to make sure its not a blown regulator or whatever, all perfect.
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Jonny 290 posted:AAAAAAH and now i can't run Netinstall because windows 7 64-bit and I can't turn off whatever antivirus is causing it to fail bind() operations. Trying to stay cool, I like the hardware but am becoming frustrated pretty fast. Supposedly these boards take 6.xx just fine even. I even tested the voltages to make sure its not a blown regulator or whatever, all perfect. Unless it has changed over the years you can upgrade to two major numbers higher than what the board shipped with. If it originally came with 3.x you are stuck at 5.x Can you run it in XP compatibility mode?
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Jonny 290 posted:AAAAAAH and now i can't run Netinstall because windows 7 64-bit and I can't turn off whatever antivirus is causing it to fail bind() operations. Trying to stay cool, I like the hardware but am becoming frustrated pretty fast. Supposedly these boards take 6.xx just fine even. I even tested the voltages to make sure its not a blown regulator or whatever, all perfect. I had this problem with a rb2011 and this solved it (disable the "network list service" service)
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Yeah, tried that, rebooted into safe mode to disable MsMpEng.exe, disabled windows firewall, i'm tearing my hair out. I'm not really wanting to spend an afternoon building an XP machine so I can _maybe_ recover a $40 router
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Jonny 290 posted:Yeah, tried that, rebooted into safe mode to disable MsMpEng.exe, disabled windows firewall, i'm tearing my hair out. I'm not really wanting to spend an afternoon building an XP machine so I can _maybe_ recover a $40 router Does XP compatibility mode in your win7 install help at all? If you have Pro, Enterprise or Ultimate there's also the full Windows XP mode VM you can install from: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/windows-xp-mode
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Great minds think alike - i just finished installing XP mode and will try from there. I fired up wireshark and its sending bootp requests and such, so I guess it's not bricked. Still, annoying.
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I'm still ripping my hair out. Why is this thing not routing packets? Bridge for ether3 (lan) and wifi i'm getting dhcp i can ping 8.8.8.8 from the router i can ping the router from the client code:Jonny 290 fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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Another thing to do when upgrading the MikroTik OS is to upgrade the routerboard firmware after every jump. Like so: Board has 3.30 on it. Install 4.17. Log in after reboot, upgrade the license and reboot. Log in and open a terminal. Type: sys rou up Hit Y to accept and reboot. Ta-da, the routerboard f/w is now upgraded. Apply the next upgrade to 5.26. Log in after 5.26 is live and upgrade the routerboard firmware and reboot. Now hop to 6.x and do the same. It tends to stop a lot of nightmare moments where the stupid things won't boot right or won't move packets around reliably. Jonny 290 - glad your problem was a software setting but make sure the underlying routerboard f/w is updated too.
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I have a microtik router at a remote office that I use as a VPN endpoint. Yesterday I was at the site dicking around trying to set up QOS for the VOIP phone they use. I did these three things - 1. Noticed the time was set to 1970 so I set up NTP and got the right time on the router 2. Added some rules in mangle to tag VOIP traffic 3. Tried unsuccessfully to set up some queues for the VOIP traffic While I was doing that my tunnel dropped back to the home office. Thinking I must have messed something up with the queue's I deleted all of the mangle and queue rules I had set up, but the tunnel still didn't come back up. Since the office was closing for the night I had to leave it like that. Overnight the tunnel would come up ever 2 hours but only for a few minutes at a time. Around 3am it came back and stayed up until 12pm today. It's down again and I'm not sure what the hell I did. Any ideas what I hosed up? I'm pretty far from a network guy and I'm seeing I'm way over my head with this stuff.
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I would start with exporting the config and looking at everything. Maybe you clicked something you didn't realize in winbox?
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thebigcow posted:I would start with exporting the config and looking at everything. Maybe you clicked something you didn't realize in winbox? I wonder if the time changing on the Mikrotik threw the ASA for a loop and it needed a kick to get going again.
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If time was the problem I'm surprised it ever worked. Oh well. RouterBoards don't have an actual clock and need a time server for anyone who didn't know.
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thebigcow posted:If time was the problem I'm surprised it ever worked. Oh well.
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Anyone used OpenWRT on a routerboard? I think the new 14.07 RC1 build should support my 951G-2HnD, but the documentation sucks and it would be nice to know how well it works. I'd like to play around with fq_codel and 6rd, which arent supported in RouterOS.
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RouterOS 6.17 is out (yes I see they call it 6.16 in the changelog. Heh, Latvian number): What's new in 6.16 (2014-Jul-17 13:12): *) 802.11ac support added in wireless-fp package for QCA9880/9882 rev2 (-BR4A) chips; *) winbox - fixed random disconnection over encrypted tunnels; *) l2tp, pptp, pppoe - fixed possible packet corruption when encryption was enabled; *) ovpn - fixed ethernet mode; *) certificates - use SHA256 for fingerprinting; *) ipsec - fix AH proposal and problem when sometimes policy was not generated; *) snmp - support AES encryption (rfc3826); *) l2tp server: added option to enable IPsec automatically; *) poe-out: added power-cycle-ping and power-cycle-interval settings; *) gps - increased retry duration to 30 seconds; *) time - on routerboards, current time is saved in configuration on reboot and on clock adjustment, and is used to set initial time after reboot; *) sntp - disabling/enabling client was causing dynamic-servers to be ignored (bug introduced in 6.14); *) CCR - fixed rare file system corruption when none of configuration could be changed or some of it disappeared; *) ipsec - allow multiple encryption algorithms per peer; *) email - support tls only connections; *) smb - fixed usb share issues after reboot *) snmp - fix v3 protocol time window checks; *) updated timezone information; *) quickset - added VPN settings for HomeAP mode; *) latency improvements on CCR devices;
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CuddleChunks posted:RouterOS 6.17 is out (yes I see they call it 6.16 in the changelog. Heh, Latvian number): Certain models of CCR crashed on 6.16, so they fixed that one thing and just made the whole thing become 6.17. It's basically a 6.16a. Unrelatedly, I have been tasked to figure out how to test for jitter with a Mikrotik. Anyone have any clues that could guide me in the right path?
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They were too busy designing moustache t-shirts to QA on their CCRs.
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Updated the AP in the office to 6.17, now it can't talk to other IPv6 networks despite nothing else changing. I should know better than touching things on read only Friday.
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falz posted:They were too busy designing moustache t-shirts to QA on their CCRs. Ahahahha nice. jeeves posted:Unrelatedly, I have been tasked to figure out how to test for jitter with a Mikrotik. Anyone have any clues that could guide me in the right path? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Tools/Traffic_Generator
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thebigcow posted:Updated the AP in the office to 6.17, now it can't talk to other IPv6 networks despite nothing else changing. I should know better than touching things on read only Friday. You violated rule number one of using RouterOS products: if it's working fine, don't upgrade. Don't upgrade ever unless you have a reason to. They break about as much in upgrades as they manage to fix.
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NOTinuyasha posted:You violated rule number one of using RouterOS products: if it's working fine, don't upgrade. Don't upgrade ever unless you have a reason to. They break about as much in upgrades as they manage to fix. Quoting because this is the truth. The sad, hard, awful truth of using MikroTik gear.  On the other hand, there's other vendors that love to add surprise breakages in their firmware updates so they're not the only one.
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I messed with the default route and then set it back the way I thought it should be and whoopee it works again. I normally never update firmware on anything. Especially the vast pile of old, out of warranty stuff in my office. This thing is mostly a toy.
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Why in the year of our lord 2014 am I not able to put a hostname in for SMTP server?
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Because Latvia
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Jul 26, 2014 03:32
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New newsletter out http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=87141 802.11ac devices targeting WISPs and VPN setup in quickset. New version of Winbox in beta.
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6.18 is out Normis posted some picture of their test setup http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87899
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I expected their test setup to be a joke photo of them all shitfaced in a bar or something flipping the bird at the camera, but it almost seems like they are trying.
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