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Serious Frolicking posted:Not much of note happened during this episode. But then how would we now just how perfect he is? What, you want me to listen to that craz-- oh, that's the sister of Mister  .e: I knew I was looking for something to actually post about. Here's the appeal of our Wooden God, explained by a certain Cracked columnist. Wark Say fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Jul 8, 2014 |
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Has this picked up at all? I stopped watching around the 4th episode since the hidden twist of him not being good at magic didn't matter at all (or whatever it was).
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Jul 8, 2014 03:31
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Harry posted:Has this picked up at all? I stopped watching around the 4th episode since the hidden twist of him not being good at magic didn't matter at all (or whatever it was). It's just got a lot worse.
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Jul 8, 2014 03:35
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WickedHate posted:It's just got a lot worse. In a somewhat interesting way? Or is it more round table discussions about how great he is?
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Jul 8, 2014 03:36
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Harry posted:In a somewhat interesting way? Or is it more round table discussions about how great he is? I forget if it was the 4th or 5th episode that ended with the protagonist bitching about how poor people are lazy. But there's that, also brutal force on unresisting, unarmed people is shown to be a really good thing. (And yet despite that stuff it's still dull as heck)
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Jul 8, 2014 03:41
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Harry posted:In a somewhat interesting way? Or is it more round table discussions about how great he is? The latter. I haven't watched the last couple myself though.
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Jul 8, 2014 03:42
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It will always fascinate me how your average crunchyroll commenter seems to like Literally Every Anime. No matter what the show is, it will always have nearly universal positive comments.
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Jul 8, 2014 04:32
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Ytlaya posted:It will always fascinate me how your average crunchyroll commenter seems to like Literally Every Anime. No matter what the show is, it will always have nearly universal positive comments. Well I figure someone somewhere has to like it otherwise CR would never buy it.
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Ytlaya posted:It will always fascinate me how your average crunchyroll commenter seems to like Literally Every Anime. No matter what the show is, it will always have nearly universal positive comments. Then again, it could just be the crazies that take the time and effort to comment there. The scoring on MAL, on the other hand, looks a little more sane and has a lot more data points to work with. The score is still to high for my faith in humanity but it has been on a slow decline and isn't scoring amazingly well. http://myanimelist.net/anime/20785/Mahouka_Koukou_no_Rettousei/stats In comparison, No Life No Game seems to have been the best received and best scored show of the season. http://myanimelist.net/anime/19815/No_Game_No_Life/stats Even Jojo is doing better with a better score and ranking and a lower drop rate despite (depressingly) lower viewership. http://myanimelist.net/anime/20899/JoJos_Bizarre_Adventure:_Stardust_Crusaders/stats So while it's not nearly as polarizing as I would have hoped, at least it's not doing great. 
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Edward IV posted:Then again, it could just be the crazies that take the time and effort to comment there. Doesn't MAL work with the IGN 7=Average scale? But yeah calling Mahouka above average is way too loving generous.
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Jul 8, 2014 05:18
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From the sound of it the anim is still behind my proper bookposting.
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Jul 8, 2014 19:06
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The latest episode lacked any particularly hilarious scenes. Though, I have to wonder what the advantage of swinging around a single piece of metal is when shooting millions of rock shards at someone from all directions at once was shown to be ineffectual. It might take someone by surprise once, but I'm pretty sure that blocking physical objects is pretty basic magic and they broadcast all of the matches. I guess it is pretty amazing that Mikihiko was shown to be vastly more useful in this event than Tatsuya, though. No one ever gets to outshine him at anything, ever.
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Is that Tatsuya's super tacticlol body armor suit in the new OP? That looks exactly like what a teenager would design for himself, good job artists.
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I started watching this show and I don't really find it to be terrible. Just think of Tatsuya as Wizard Jesus, ignore the rampant incest, and enjoy the main character being the best at everything. I guess I'm just really enjoying the fact that the main character isn't a spineless wimp caught in a harem with new magical powers that he's afraid/reluctant to use. Just keep loving everybody's poo poo up Tatsuya.
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Eddain posted:I started watching this show and I don't really find it to be terrible. So this is what I sounded like. 
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Jul 19, 2014 03:03
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Eddain posted:I started watching this show and I don't really find it to be terrible. I'd advise you read the rest of the thread before we have to make the effort to make you eat your own words. Make special note of namtab's excerpts from the light novel so you can see just where this poo poo is going and just how bad the show and novel are. Then again, this thread has gotten kind of dull ever since WickedHate realized just how terrible this show and light novel is. So by all means, try to defend this show. If you can that is.  WickedHate posted:So this is what I sounded like. More or less.
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Eddain posted:I started watching this show and I don't really find it to be terrible. There are a lot of quality shows that have a main character that's not like that and they don't have things like incestual fanservice to boot! Might I recommend watching Ping Ping: The Animation, instead.
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Jul 19, 2014 03:29
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Eddain posted:I started watching this show and I don't really find it to be terrible. Read from page 1. WickedHate's journey from fan to disgust is like something out of a Disney tale.
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Also I'll admit I'm always boggled when I hear complaints about spineless main characters in anime or whatever because there are a ton of shows without them! There are usually plenty of good ones that fit that description each season, even!
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Eddain posted:I started watching this show and I don't really find it to be terrible. Look, you can do Spineless MC right: Watch / Read Kokoro Connect. The anime has Miyuki Sawashiro doing some of the best goddamn VA work she's ever done. Alternatively, just watch Nozaki-kun, which has Yuuichi Nakamura (Tatsuya's VA) using the exact same loving voice he uses for Tatsuya while also being funny as hell. Also, potentially Miyuki out-doing herself. WickedHate posted:So this is what I sounded like. Hey, at least you've come around. 
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Wark Say posted:Look, you can do Spineless MC right: Watch / Read Kokoro Connect. The anime has Miyuki Sawashiro doing some of the best goddamn VA work she's ever done. Alternatively, just watch Nozaki-kun, which has Yuuichi Nakamura (Tatsuya's VA) using the exact same loving voice he uses for Tatsuya while also being funny as hell. Also, potentially Miyuki out-doing herself. Holy gently caress that's the same guy!?  The difference is like day and night! Poor dude is choked to death by Mahouka's script.
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WickedHate posted:So this is what I sounded like. How does it feel?
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boredsatellite posted:How does it feel? Embarrassing. Srice posted:There are a lot of quality shows that have a main character that's not like that and they don't have things like incestual fanservice to boot! The incest is the least of Mahouka's problems. The dull characters and the praise lavished on a total rear end in a top hat Mary Sue is a lot more annoying and grating. I'd call Tatsuya "Wizard John Galt" but at least Galt had emotions.
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WickedHate posted:I recognize it has flaws but just happen to like it. WickedHate posted:So this is what I sounded like. SSNeoman posted:Holy gently caress that's the same guy!?
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I like the magic, the fights, and yeah, the characters are interesting to me, though I can see why they don't appeal to others.
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Darth Walrus, you had it right when you said that there shouldn't be a single reason to watch Mahouka ever. Everything you can get out of mocking it, you can get by reading this thread, and without the terrible influence and waste of time the show would be on you. Of course, Jojo just makes it even less likely you should ever watch this garbage, but hey, not everyone is as enlightened as you are.
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Seriously, though, I can't think of any one of the positive things that people have praised Mahouka for that Stardust Crusaders doesn't do the same but better. Unless you're really desperate for your incest and Japanese nationalism fix.
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The last few episodes haven't even been entertainingly bad. I can tell the animators are doing their best, but no one could make this sports meet interesting without diverging from the original version drastically.
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There's a lot of light novels to adapt, so they've only got themselves to blame for spending so many episodes on the wizard olympics.
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Darth Walrus posted:Ping Pong is excellent, but it's a very different beast that seems unlikely to scratch a magical action anime itch. On the other hand, I cannot think of a single reason to watch Mahouka Yeah, I was just recommending it since it's in the category of "things with protagonists that aren't wimps". (Also arguably they both deal with really stoic characters but only one of those shows explores that characterization in a meaningful way)
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A semi magic action anime where the MC isn't hilariously over powered that I liked was Unbreakable machine doll but it does suffer from MC gaining a harem for no reason at all. Plus the MC isn't a wimp!
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Srice posted:Yeah, I was just recommending it since it's in the category of "things with protagonists that aren't wimps". You mean that Mama's Boy? That dude is a big old softie. Who will totes wreck your poo poo if you look at him funny. The Best Mama's Boy. 
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Namtab posted:There's a lot of light novels to adapt, so they've only got themselves to blame for spending so many episodes on the wizard olympics. Are there? I was under the impression most LNs were really bad? Are they even popular there, are they like comparable to lovely genre novels here? I know there's not much point in reading them in translation because they're badly written as-is, and then the translation makes it even worse
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Wark Say posted:You mean that Mama's Boy? That dude is a big old softie. Who will totes wreck your poo poo if you look at him funny. He was talking about Smile from Ping-Pong, an invincible stoic loner whose personality gets explored in great detail (because Ping-Pong is an intelligent character-piece), though Jotaro Kujo is certainly a far more entertaining stoic genius action lead with weird family issues than Tatsuya.
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Television is a process of digitally recording light and sound, transmitting it, and then playing the recording on devices which receive the broadcast. Magic in this setting is produced via invisible particles and altering information which in turn alters the behavior of physical objects. Light is produced as a by-product, so the actual spells are visible. So, exactly why does a television broadcast include invisible particles and spirits made of invisible particles? Mizuki saw spirits through the television, even though that wasn't really relevant to anything. Add television to the long list of things Satou doesn't understand, I guess. The only funny part of this episode was the two gaijin-slaughterers slowly walking toward each other flailing their dumb plastic guns ineffectually, while the audience reacted as though it was the most amazing spectacle known to man. Oh, but even after all of the unbelievable smugness Tatsuya has demonstrated throughout the series that inner monologue about how he wasn't confident about winning even if he wasn't holding back really pissed me off. The rear end in a top hat can instantly regenerate from any damage Ichijo could inflict. Tatsuya could take a nap if he wanted while Ichijo exhausted himself trying to kill him. Since it is automatic and based on restoring to a backup (stored where, exactly?) rather than an accelerated healing process, even destroying the brain probably wouldn't be enough. Then you can add in Tatsuya's primary offensive power, which instantly destroys matter at a molecular level. Not confident my rear end. False modesty in an interior monologue is inexcusable.
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icantfindaname posted:Are there? I was under the impression most LNs were really bad? Are they even popular there, are they like comparable to lovely genre novels here? I know there's not much point in reading them in translation because they're badly written as-is, and then the translation makes it even worse Sorry, I meant to say there's a lot of books in this one series. I really have no idea why they're spending so long in this one arc when the next proper arc has Tatsuya's limits being released so that he can go disintegrate the chinese without remorse + nuke them.
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Namtab posted:Sorry, I meant to say there's a lot of books in this one series. I really have no idea why they're spending so long in this one arc when the next proper arc has Tatsuya's limits being released so that he can go disintegrate the chinese without remorse + nuke them. Saving it for season 2 we need to pace out killing all the non-japanese people we can
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This show is doing well enough that it will probably get a second season. The demon arc makes this look like beautiful poetry.
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Darth Walrus posted:He was talking about Smile from Ping-Pong, an invincible stoic loner whose personality gets explored in great detail (because Ping-Pong is an intelligent character-piece), though Jotaro Kujo is certainly a far more entertaining stoic genius action lead with weird family issues than Tatsuya. Yeah, that's what I meant. It's a pretty good character comparison because we're supposed to believe that Tatsuya's lack of emotions is a character flaw, but you never see it portrayed as such. It never even inconveniences him or anything. It's just a fake flaw. Meanwhile there are a few key moments in Ping Pong where you can tell Smile's attitude really has some negative effects on him. I like to bring up Ping Pong as an example because it's a good show that everybody should watch!!
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It's not even a problem having an unbeatable main character. Look at Superman, for God's sake. Where Mahouka falls apart--conceptually, I mean--is that Satou completely misses the point. Unbeatable is fine, but you still have to challenge them. Tatsuya isn't just Wizard Jesus, he's an infallible Wizard Jesus whose Mary-Sue aura is so overpowering, it extends to all his friends and colleagues so long as they continue offering the appropriate adoring testimonials. Whatever their other problems, you could still engage the audience with the magic Olympics if his friends showed tension, or had to struggle in any way. I bailed on episode 13 and started rewatching Ping-Pong instead. How far will YOU get before the epiphany?
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