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That Fucking Sned
Oct 28, 2010

I said come in! posted:

I know a lot of you are not able to play Project CARS until it comes out, but are interested in the car and track list. This is the most up to date version of that content, which probably won't be added to until after release;

European Circuits

- Azure Circuit - Monaco
- Besos - Circuit de Catalunya
- Brands Hatch (laser scanned)
- Cadwell Park
- Donington Park
- Florence - Mugello
- Hockenheimring
- Imola
- Le Mans Circuit 24h
- Le Mans Bugatti Circuit
- Monza
- Moravia - Brno
- Nürburgring Nordschleife (Team Member+ during development)
- Nurburgring GP (Senior+ during development)
- Oschersleben
- Oulton Park (laser scanned)
- Silverstone
- Snetterton
- Spa Francorchamps
- Zolder

North American Circuits

- California Raceway - Willow Springs
- Lakeville Raceway - Sonoma Raceway
- Monterey - Laguna Seca
- Watkins Glen
- Wisconsin Raceway - Road America

Asian Circuits

- Dubai Autodrome
- Jin Ding - Zhuhai
- Sakitto - Suzuka

Oceania Circuits

- Bathurst - Mount Panorama

Kart Tracks

- Belgian Forest Karting Circuit (Spa-Francorchamps Kart Circuit)
- Chesterfield (fictional)
- Glencairn (fictional)
- Summerton (fictional)
- Dubai Kartdrome

Country Roads

- California Highway (Team Member+ during development)
- Azure Coast (Team Member+ during development)

Planned/Confirmed Tracks

- Ruapuna Speedway
- Macau

Historic Tracks

- Bannochbrae (fictional historic GP track located in the scottish highlands)
- Hockenheim (Pre 2002)
- Rouen Les Essarts
- Historic Milan - Monza (1967. GPL2.)
- Historic Milan Oval
- Silverstone 1975
- Solitude Rennstrecke
- Spa Historic

Oval Tracks

- Concord - Charlotte Motor Speedway
- Daytona International Speedway
- Delaware - Dover
- Henrico - Richmond
- Indianapolis Speedway
- Memphis - Bristol

Cars:
2013 Alpine A450 LMP2 (currently only a livery)
2011 Ariel Atom 300 Supercharged
2011 Ariel Atom 500 V8 2011
2011 Ariel Atom Mugen
2013 Audi R8 LMS Ultra GT3
2013 Audi R8 V10 Plus
2011 Audi R18 TDI LMP1
2012 BAC Mono
2012 BMW 1M Coupe
1978 BMW 320 Turbo Group 5
1981 BMW M1 Procar
1991 BMW M3 E30 Group A
2012 BMW M3 E92 GT2
2012 BMW M3 E92 GT4
2012 BMW Z4 GT3
1990 Caper Monterey Stock Car (fictional 1990 Stock Car)
2012 Caterham Classic
2012 Caterham SP 300/R
2011 Caterham Superlight R500
1981 Ford Capri Zakspeed Group 5
1972 Ford Escort RS1600
2009 Ford Focus RS
1967 Ford MK. IV
2013 Ford Mustang Boss 302R1
1997 Ford Mustang Cobra SCCA Trans-Am
1988 Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth Group A
2011 Formula A (fictional 2011 Formula 1)
2011 Formula B (fictional GP2-type Formula Car)
2013 Formula C (fictional Formula 3/Atlantic type car)
2012 Formula Gulf FG1000
2011 Formula Rookie (fictional 2011 Formula Ford type car)
2013 Ginetta G40 Junior
2013 Ginetta G55 GT3
2011 Gumpert Apollo S
1969 Lotus 49 Cosworth V8
1972 Lotus 72D Cosworth
1977 Lotus 78 Cosworth
1985 Lotus 98T Renault Turbo
2013 Marek PM06A (fictional community designed LMP1)
1994 McLaren F1
2013 McLaren 12C
2013 McLaren 12C GT3
2014 McLaren P1
2012 Mercedes-AMG C-Klasse Coupé DTM
1991 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II DTM
1971 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.8 AMG "Rote Sau"
2013 Mercedes-Benz A45 AMG
2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
2012 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG GT3
2012 Mitsubishi Evo X FQ-400
2013 Oreca 03 LMP2
2012 Pagani Huayra
2009 Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster
2012 Pagani Zonda R
2011 Palmer Jaguar JP LM
2011 Radical SR-3 RS
2011 Radical SR-8 RX
2013 Renault Clio IV RS Cup
2014 Renault Megane RS
2013 RUF CTR3 Clubsport
2013 RUF RGT-8
2014 RUF RGT-8 GT3(Fictional Racing Version)
2013 RWD Motorsports P30 LMP1 (fictional community designed LMP1)
2014 RWD Motorsports P20 LMP2 (fictional community designed LMP2)
1989 Sauber C9 Mercedes Group C
2011 SMS Shifter Kart 125cc
2011 SMS Shifter Kart 250cc Super Kart

Also wanted to give you all an idea of what the texture quality can be like in this sim;


:aaaaa:

Sounds great, I can't wait to try the country roads, since those are my favourite to drive on. Does the PS4 have support for USB wheels, like the Driving Force Pro?

That Fucking Sned fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Jul 12, 2014

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I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

I can't personally comment on the physics because I have not had time to really sit down and play in a long time. However, reports from E3, coming from well known sim racers, say that the game is really good.

I don't know what wheels are supported on PS4. I would like an answer to that as well though because i'm gonna claim my retail key for PS4.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
Ben Collins says they're OK, Nicolas Hamilton seems content*, Rene Rast apparently uses PCARS to train off-track.

(*: For what's it worth, he has celebral palsy, uses a special setup to race his Clio and uses a gamepad in the sim, so v:v:v )

When a demo comes out, spend a while on it and decide for yourself if you like the physics, and most importantly the proxy towards them, i.e. the FFB. Their physics coder is trying his hardest to make a very detailed dynamic tire model --edit: and steering rack simulation.

Around 98% of user opinions on any racesim on the Internet are bullshit. Armchair racers aren't exactly a great source of opinion, because they lack real world references, so it's pretty much like asking one's favorite color.

Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Jul 13, 2014

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Combat Pretzel posted:

Around 98% of user opinions on any racesim on the Internet are bullshit. Armchair racers aren't exactly a great source of opinion, because they lack real world references, so it's pretty much like asking one's favorite color.

I feel like this is the truest statement ever to be made about the racing sim community. There's too much bullshit in this community and i'm really glad goons are able to like and appreciate more then one sim, something I don't see else where.

track day bro!
Feb 17, 2005

#essereFerrari
Grimey Drawer

CaseFace McGee posted:

I started driving the Spec Miata mod in rFactor 2, and it is a pretty darn fun car. It still wants to kill me every other lap, but I don't want to give it an easier tune because I know that will make me lazy and slow.

This is why I dont trust simracing fans, why the hell is a car like an mx5 trying to kill you every other lap? Difficulty for difficulties sake is retarded. One of the first things I ever drove on track was a prepped mx5 and for a novice me at the time it was fine.

But then to most simracing people im a horrible controller user anyway, but to me assetto corsa sorta feels right to me. I'd love to try Pcars because I have a feeling that their controller setup might be a bit better than ac's current one.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
P Cars is pretty good. I've avoided it for a while because I got into iRacing (which I am also neglecting at the moment). I loaded it up and tried out the BMW 1M and 320. The 1M was pretty good. I can't really compare it to my car too much since the 1M has the previous generation engine, manual transmission, wider tires and better suspension whereas my 135 has the later generation engine, DCT and skinnier tires. But the 135i and 1M are pretty similar in many aspects. It felt about on par with my real car as much as a few minutes around Brands Hatch could tell me. I'd have to drive my car on a real track and then drive the 1M on the same track in game to really get a feel for it. It felt good though, oversteer was just as manageable as in my real car.

The 320 on the other hand seemed like it was glued to the road. Maybe that's just an artifact of it being newer. It seems like newer cars in the sim are either glued to the road or sliding all over the place.

That Fucking Sned
Oct 28, 2010

Combat Pretzel posted:

Around 98% of user opinions on racism on the Internet are bullshit.

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?

track day bro! posted:

This is why I dont trust simracing fans, why the hell is a car like an mx5 trying to kill you every other lap? Difficulty for difficulties sake is retarded. One of the first things I ever drove on track was a prepped mx5 and for a novice me at the time it was fine.

The car is set up very well - I'm just not used to it. The car wants to rotate under heavy braking due to weight transfer and more rear brake bias. Because it is such an underpowered car, this is a good thing because it allows you to carry more speed into the corner and brake later if you can keep the car under control. My driving style is more accustomed to a heavier, more powerful car with the brake bias set further forward.

The iRacing Miata is easy to drive because the fixed setup is geared towards the rookie drivers. This Miata is set up for a faster, more experienced driver. I'd rather learn how to drive this car properly instead of forcing the car to handle like a heavier car.

TL:DR it's not difficult for difficulty's sake.

GhostDog
Jul 30, 2003

Always see everything.
I tried the rFactor2 demo and the game feels all weird. Maybe it's just that I generally only play RWD and the demo is FWD? Has anyone who plays AC with a Fanatec CSR been able to dial the FFB in to a point where it feels satisfactory? That's really it for me - I don't know what's "realistic", I just know what feels right to me, and ever since I found the right setup on AC for me every other game I tried with the exception of RBR just feels wrong :(


In somewhat older news that I haven't seen here (or missed), AC gets some Alfa love:

Alfa Romeo 4C
Alfa Romeo GTA
Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI :dance:

Also, apparently the Kunos licensing dude posted on his Facebook last week that they have about 40 cars still to unveil?

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?

GhostDog posted:

I tried the rFactor2 demo and the game feels all weird. Maybe it's just that I generally only play RWD and the demo is FWD? Has anyone who plays AC with a Fanatec CSR been able to dial the FFB in to a point where it feels satisfactory? That's really it for me - I don't know what's "realistic", I just know what feels right to me, and ever since I found the right setup on AC for me every other game I tried with the exception of RBR just feels wrong :(


In somewhat older news that I haven't seen here (or missed), AC gets some Alfa love:

Alfa Romeo 4C
Alfa Romeo GTA
Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI :dance:

Also, apparently the Kunos licensing dude posted on his Facebook last week that they have about 40 cars still to unveil?

AC needs some more interesting tracks to go with all of those cars.

I haven't really messed with FF for a while, but I've got AC and rF2 both where I like them. I don't think I really did much to AC, it was pretty decent out of the box for me. About the only thing I do is adjust the overall FF strength, due to the discussion a while back. I had been unknowingly maxing out my FF, and I needed to turn down the gain for a few cars.

I think most FWD cars feel funny in racing sims, because I also primarily drive RWD and kinda suck with front wheel drive. I have played with the FF a lot in rF2, and I think that game has the best feeling FF. I'll do some races in iRacing, or try not to get killed by the AI in Assetto Corsa, but I always go back to rF2 because it feels best to me.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
That's my big problem with AC. It's a great sim that looks awesome and has amazing cars. I just never want to load it up because the only tracks in it that I can tolerate are Mugello and Silverstone. They need some more well known tracks (or go the pCARS route and just make parody versions of them). I understand they wanted to add their home track, but people are going to want the more popular ones.

GhostDog
Jul 30, 2003

Always see everything.

CaseFace McGee posted:

AC needs some more interesting tracks to go with all of those cars.

Agreed. I do hope the mod community goes beyond quick and mostly bad conversions at some point. Although there are 4 or 5 tracks out there that are quite good.

CaseFace McGee posted:

I haven't really messed with FF for a while, but I've got AC and rF2 both where I like them. I don't think I really did much to AC, it was pretty decent out of the box for me. About the only thing I do is adjust the overall FF strength, due to the discussion a while back. I had been unknowingly maxing out my FF, and I needed to turn down the gain for a few cars.

I think most FWD cars feel funny in racing sims, because I also primarily drive RWD and kinda suck with front wheel drive. I have played with the FF a lot in rF2, and I think that game has the best feeling FF. I'll do some races in iRacing, or try not to get killed by the AI in Assetto Corsa, but I always go back to rF2 because it feels best to me.

Thanks. Maybe next time I feel I have too much money I just risk it and throw some at rF2. Who makes an FWD only demo anyway? Idiots.

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?

GhostDog posted:

Thanks. Maybe next time I feel I have too much money I just risk it and throw some at rF2. Who makes an FWD only demo anyway? Idiots.

It's (slightly) better than when they had the Corvette as the only demo car. It's nearly impossible to keep under control.

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine
Once both the Alfa GTA and the Targa conversion are out, I don't know that I'll be driving anything else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVD_CqKPYhk

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?
Fanatec 911 wheels and ClubSport wheel base are 40% off today only while supplies last. Fanatec, stop trying to take all my money!

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

CaseFace McGee posted:

Fanatec 911 wheels and ClubSport wheel base are 40% off today only while supplies last. Fanatec, stop trying to take all my money!

Already back to regular price.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
I've had AC since really early on and I can't quite get into it. I dunno how to explain it, the whole thing feels very sterile, like a golf game from the 90s or something.

Moxie Omen
Mar 15, 2008

The clubsport wheelbase discount was 'as supplies last' so it basically sold out instantly. Thanks Fanatec.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
What the gently caress? I don't understand them at all. Did they recently get five wheel bases in stock or something? I checked a few days ago and it was preorder. I'd like to order one at a decent price. I don't even need that big of a discount. I was hoping they would redo the buy one get one free deal on the rims for the black friday sale. Instead it was their stupid wheel stand.

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine
Today the_meco released 0.1 of his Cobra and it is already amazing:




Also released:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIkGSMTNmtw

If you missed it, snoopy's Nordschleife conversion hit 1.0 and driving the cobra around it is highly recommended.

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?
Someone really ought to make an open world British farm to hoon around on.

So you can be taxtherich

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKm-wcxkl5U

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?

365 Nog Hogger posted:

If you missed it, snoopy's Nordschleife conversion hit 1.0 and driving the cobra around it is highly recommended.

I was going to try this combo, but as soon as the track loaded I just had no choice but to load the Ferrari 312T.

David Pratt
Apr 21, 2001

365 Nog Hogger posted:

If you missed it, snoopy's Nordschleife conversion hit 1.0 and driving the cobra around it is highly recommended.

This is an excellent combination, once you get used to the handling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG9bOjL30Rk

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine
At the moment, I htink the car is maybe too easy to drive? From P&G and countless youtube videos I expected to slam into a wall the second I hit the gas.

SanitysEdge
Jul 28, 2005
The new 80s turbo F1 car is a hoot. Its incredibly tame for having 1250 HP. With qualifying tires and wings set to maximum its impossible to slide off the track.

edit: the new per-car tuning setting for wheel FF and damping broke a bunch of the cars, the default setting for damping should be 0% not 100%

SanitysEdge fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Jul 19, 2014

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?

SanitysEdge posted:

The new 80s turbo F1 car is a hoot. Its incredibly tame for having 1250 HP. With qualifying tires and wings set to maximum its impossible to slide off the track.

Challenge accepted :colbert:

Fayez Butts
Aug 24, 2006

I'd like to build a wheel stand for my G27 but most everything I've found online is either too ugly or kind of unclear about the dimensions. Does anyone have a link to even just basic information like where the wheel should be in relation to the pedals and stuff? thanks

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Fayez Butts posted:

I'd like to build a wheel stand for my G27 but most everything I've found online is either too ugly or kind of unclear about the dimensions. Does anyone have a link to even just basic information like where the wheel should be in relation to the pedals and stuff? thanks

What kind of stand? Built in seat or just something to stick in front of a chair/couch? I have a wheelstand pro that I can take some pictures/measurements of for you.

Fayez Butts
Aug 24, 2006

For now, something I can stick in front of my couch. Those dimensions would be great regardless though, thanks!

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Fayez Butts posted:

For now, something I can stick in front of my couch. Those dimensions would be great regardless though, thanks!

That's exactly what the wheelstand pro is. I'll take some pics and superimpose the measurements in a bit.

Fayez Butts
Aug 24, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpcmfjFN8OI&hd=1

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?


Hope this is enough.

Fayez Butts
Aug 24, 2006

Yeah, I'd say so. Thanks dude!

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

SanitysEdge posted:

The new 80s turbo F1 car is a hoot. Its incredibly tame for having 1250 HP. With qualifying tires and wings set to maximum its impossible to slide off the track.

edit: the new per-car tuning setting for wheel FF and damping broke a bunch of the cars, the default setting for damping should be 0% not 100%

Is this in Assetto Corsa? How do you change its settings? There's just a button for livery. It does seem very tame compared to the version in pCARS. That one spins the tires once boost kicks in. Is there any reason why it only goes up to 3.5 bar? The on in CARS goes up to 5. The sense of speed also seems greater in CARS. Maybe that's just my FOV settings. I was able to set around the same pace on Brands Hatch in both.

Moxie Omen
Mar 15, 2008

Cojawfee posted:

Is this in Assetto Corsa? How do you change its settings? There's just a button for livery. It does seem very tame compared to the version in pCARS. That one spins the tires once boost kicks in. Is there any reason why it only goes up to 3.5 bar? The on in CARS goes up to 5. The sense of speed also seems greater in CARS. Maybe that's just my FOV settings. I was able to set around the same pace on Brands Hatch in both.

You can set the boost settings with the 1 through 0 keys. It's at 60% by default.

Jamfrost
Jul 20, 2013

I'm too busy thinkin' about my baby. Oh I ain't got time for nothin' else.
Slime TrainerS

peter gabriel posted:

I've had AC since really early on and I can't quite get into it. I dunno how to explain it, the whole thing feels very sterile, like a golf game from the 90s or something.

I'm just a hotlapper. I'm not sure about the sterile feeling, but it definitely was lonely for awhile until the AI and multiplayer were introduced.

I still prefer racing alone on the track and competing for times instead. (Edit: Just flipped the Lotus 98T. I'm bad.)

Jamfrost fucked around with this message at 09:20 on Jul 20, 2014

Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT

Moxie Omen posted:

You can set the boost settings with the 1 through 0 keys. It's at 60% by default.

I learn something new everyday. I can only imagine what that car is like at full boost.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Holy poo poo 3.5 bar is 50psi and 5 bar is 72psi. That's insane.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Jamfrost posted:

I'm just a hotlapper. I'm not sure about the sterile feeling, but it definitely was lonely for awhile until the AI and multiplayer were introduced.

I still prefer racing alone on the track and competing for times instead. (Edit: Just flipped the Lotus 98T. I'm bad.)

Yeah same here, hot laps are what I have done so far.
I've decided to try and sort myself out though so I've downloaded some graphics tweaks, the Cobra Car and the 'Ring track to try and inject some excitement into proceedings.
Seems to have been a good decision, I'm having a lot of fun with it.

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David Pratt
Apr 21, 2001
There's a new track out for AC - Longford 1967. It's an old-school road course from Tasmania. Rules with the Lotus 49 and the Cobra.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do7tviE_2OA

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