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BJPaskoff posted:Does anyone have a list for this mono-green deck? I keep missing it on stream. They posted a deck tech a little bit ago: http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/deck_tech_monogreen_devotion_w.html
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GonSmithe posted:If you give something the "Whenever [x] deals damage..." trigger (through Stir the Pride, say), are at 10 life but taking 11 damage, and you would gain 10 life off the trigger, you die with the trigger on the stack. Related to Lifelink chat, the old "When this creature deals damage..." wording was actually briefly keyworded as lifelink when 10th edition was released, but they reverted it and made it a separate ability when they changed the damage rules with Magic 2010. Luckily only one card with the old ability was reprinted with Lifelink in that brief window: Loxodon Warhammer. Since Wizards goes off of the latest printing when figuring out functionality changes due to rules updates, it's the only card with the old ability that has been errata'd to have the Lifelink keyword.
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Jul 19, 2014 23:35
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Count Bleck posted:Does Tangle Wire sound about as stupid in a Derevi EDH deck as I think it sounds? It's a great card, but do yourself a favor and get the old one. Rinkles posted:Phage was temporarily given the zombie creature type, and now it's avatar? Some of these erratas seem unnecessary. It was part of the lorwyn creature type changes, where they updated all of the creatures to have the types that you would expect them to have (like Warrior Angel being a Warrior), while eliminating types like "lady of proper etiquette" and "ali from cairo." Phage was actually part of the second round where they changed more types based on community recommendations. I guess her being a zombie was a lore thing, but when they actually went to reprint her, they looked at her more closely and figured Avatar was more appropriate.
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Pulled Jace, Nissa, Lilliana, and a vault in my prize packs (22) and some decent rares as well. Only did one daft so far of m15. First picked phytottitan and went u/g. Went 1/1 and lost to b/r super removal with a siege dragon I passed pack 2. Hopefully more drafts after BBQ.
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Mechanics question: If I hour of need something with ephara's enlightenment on it, I would assume the aura cannot return to my hand? Mtgo gave me the prompt despite not giving me the card.
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I pulled a jace, 2 nissa, foil Garruk, Liliana, foil caves, shivan reef, 2 llanowar waste, 2 waste not, 2 urborg, 1 soul of theros, a scuttling doom engine, 2 sliver hives, 2 yavimaya coasts, a battlefield forge, an avacyn and two chain veils across my box and fatpack and 3 prize packs last night. Garruk was in the first pack I opened. I think that may be the last sealed product I ever need to open. Anil Dikshit fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Jul 20, 2014 |
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Jul 20, 2014 03:33
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tirinal posted:Mechanics question: Nope, it gets exiled first before a creature can enter the battlefield.
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Jul 20, 2014 03:34
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Count Bleck posted:And on the other side I'll be a waitin', with my poo poo eating grin as I tap my mana dorks and my lands and announce, "Chord for three." G/R does this, too. 
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Jul 20, 2014 03:58
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Dumb EDH question: If I have a Chief Engineer and an Artifact general that has died multiple times, can I convoke away the 2 mana penalty? Eg, Sharuum, The Hegemon has died once; can I pay BUW and tap five creatures? I am assuming not, but some of commanders from the 2013 decks consider the total cost to cast, so I thought there was a chance.
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apistat posted:Dumb EDH question: I believe so. Costs are set (base cost +2 for each time it's returned to the Command Zone) and then you can reduce it with Convoke.
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apistat posted:Dumb EDH question: You may. Effects that lower the cost of artifacts like Etherium Sculptor also work the same.
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Jul 20, 2014 05:59
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Fantastic! Thanks! My playgroup is going to be so annoyed 
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Dr. Stab posted:It's a great card, but do yourself a favor and get the old one. Miss Demeanor never had her creature type changed (though it is not listed as a valid creature type) Edit: she's also still listed as a Summon in Gatherer  Guess they don't want to be forced to change it OR make it a valid creature type in "real" Magic
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Jul 20, 2014 06:38
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LGD posted:Miss Demeanor never had her creature type changed (though it is not listed as a valid creature type) I'm pretty sure none of the Un-sets ever get their Oracle text updated for syntax, keywords, etc. because they aren't legal in anything and occasionally rely on specific wordplay to get the joke across.
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Dr. Stab posted:Phage was actually part of the second round where they changed more types based on community recommendations. I guess her being a zombie was a lore thing, but when they actually went to reprint her, they looked at her more closely and figured Avatar was more appropriate. Phage isn't undead: she gets her powers from the Cabal's "god" Kuberr. Avatar makes more sense. The best part of the revision btw was Warmonger: Monger -> Ox Monger -> Minotaur Monger
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apistat posted:Dumb EDH question: Yes. Convoke just means that you can tap creatures as part of paying the cost. The {2} for commanders is an additional cost.
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A weird way to win a Vintage Dredge game 2 is to just not sideboard anything in and hope your opponent sides out a lot of his threats aggressively. By which I mean, this is a terrible strategy and you should sideboard against Dredge.
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Chorocojo posted:Phage isn't undead: she gets her powers from the Cabal's "god" Kuberr. Avatar makes more sense. The real tragedy is that Spiritmonger hasn't been updated to be a Beast Monger. (As cute as Spirit Monger would be, it wouldn't actually make sense.)
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Jul 20, 2014 19:42
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I like watching Sneak & Show vs ANT in Legacy. 5 minute games are a lot more tolerable than Miracles or Delver mirrors going to time.
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qbert posted:I like watching Sneak & Show vs ANT in Legacy. 5 minute games are a lot more tolerable than Miracles or Delver mirrors going to time. Gonna have to agree with that. Miracles looks like a fun and interesting deck that tests your ability to judge the situation as a player but holy gently caress I don't ever want to watch the mirror if I don't have to.
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Count Bleck posted:Gonna have to agree with that. The Miracles mirror is usually really fast. Its essentially over in 4-5 turns, even if it takes another 20 to actually end. Nearly every mirror I've played ended in less than half an hour, unless my opponent was especially inexperienced in it.
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Jul 20, 2014 23:19
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qbert posted:I like watching Sneak & Show vs ANT in Legacy. 5 minute games are a lot more tolerable than Miracles or Delver mirrors going to time. Only because it's a change of pace though. If more Legacy matchups were that uninteractive I imagine you'd get bored with the format really quickly.
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Jul 20, 2014 23:20
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So everyone really underestimated how good Sign in Blood is.....
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Jul 20, 2014 23:45
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Massive punt on the stream. Protip: FOW that Burning Wish!
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En Fuego posted:Massive punt on the stream. Protip: FOW that Burning Wish! I wasn't playing when Storm was first introduced as a mechanic and didn't realize until just now that countering a Storm spell only counters one instance of the spell. No wonder the deck's so resilient.
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qbert posted:I wasn't playing when Storm was first introduced as a mechanic and didn't realize until just now that countering a Storm spell only counters one instance of the spell. No wonder the deck's so resilient. Ideally you'd counter them before they have the mana and storm count to win.
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You can also Stifle the Storm trigger if you happen to be playing a deck that actually has Stifle (i.e. RUG Delver) though that's risky since once they get their mana acceleration going there is a non-trivial chance they can wreck your hand with discard still really funny when you can pull it off though, since if you have any sort of clock at all they're basically out of the game
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God I love M15 limited... Just got back from an M15 sealed tournament. Went 4-0, winning all but one round 2-0. I played RUB (red-blue-black) and took 1st place. Rares were Soul of Shandalar (with a foil Stormtide Leviathan in same pack), Indulgent Tormentor, Aetherspout, Haunted Plate Mail, Master of Predicaments, and Life's Legacy. Ditched Legacy and ran tempo-control/aggro until I used my lone Generator Servant to dump Shandalar or Stormtide. Funny moments: I swung with Shandalar with six untapped, he cast Polymorphist's Jest and double-blocked, and I chronostuttered my own guy to save him from dying. I swung with Stormtide Leviathan, he Aetherspouted it to the top. Next turn he swing with everyone for lethal, and one of the guys watching said "Wouldn't it be funny if she also...", and I cast Aetherspout. My roommate played too, and I feel really bad for him. He opened Goblin Rabblerouser, Goblin Kaboomist, The Wanderer Bard, The Chain Veil, Stormtide Leviathan, and a Caves of Kolios. Besides a Cone of Flame, he had absolutely no way to deal with any fliers in his entire pool. He ended up going 1-3, with the 1 being a first-round bye. Valicious fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Jul 21, 2014 |
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I lost to Feline Longmore on High Tide, the finale culminating in her having the mana to cast infinitely many Capsize with Buyback to bounce her candelabras, then when she had made infinite mana responding to her Top draw activation with a buyback'd Capsize to draw her whole deck. Legacy owns.
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Sneak & Show player in the semis made two bad decisions that cost him the game. First he Show & Tell'd a Sneak Attack into play, sacs his last fetchland for red mana, opponent sacs HIS fetchland in response and Golgari Charms the Sneak Attack. If he had just sequenced correctly and cracked that fetch before the Show & Tell, he would've won. Next turn he miraculously draws another Show & Tell, casts it, and chooses to put Emrakul into play instead of Griselbrand. Doesn't see that his opponent has lethal in two turns with Creeping Tar Pit, Goyf, and Deathrite Shaman, and enough permanents to survive an Annihilator trigger and still win. Really goes to show that knowing how to play your deck is way more important than picking the right deck in Legacy.
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It feels amazing when your opponent casts Show and Tell and you have Angel of Despair in hand.
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BaronVonVaderham posted:It feels amazing when your opponent casts Show and Tell and you have Angel of Despair in hand. Is there a reason to still play Angel of Despair over Ashen Rider?
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qbert posted:Is there a reason to still play Angel of Despair over Ashen Rider? Ashen Rider isn't in the cube 
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BaronVonVaderham posted:Ashen Rider isn't in the cube Considering you were posting directly after he was talking about Legacy Sneak and Show why are you surprised that he'd assume you were talking about Legacy
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Grindy "fair" games when you're behind are so miserable to play in Legacy. At least when you lose to something unfair you finish up quick and shuffle up for another shot and you don't spend 10+ turns with your foot on your dick.
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Ciprian Maricon posted:Grindy "fair" games when you're behind are so miserable to play in Legacy. At least when you lose to something unfair you finish up quick and shuffle up for another shot and you don't spend 10+ turns with your foot on your dick. But man, coming back feels soooo good in legacy. It's not like modern where you're behind and then suddenly you combo off and win. You actually have to work for it. I've been down at 1 life to 18 against Deathblade and come back for the win, still at 1 life. That's still one of my favorite games I've played.
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qbert posted:Sneak & Show player in the semis made two bad decisions that cost him the game. First he Show & Tell'd a Sneak Attack into play, sacs his last fetchland for red mana, opponent sacs HIS fetchland in response and Golgari Charms the Sneak Attack. If he had just sequenced correctly and cracked that fetch before the Show & Tell, he would've won. Isn't this the same guy that lost in the Standard finals? Keep not casting that Voice of Resurgence, it's only like one of the better cards against Mono-Black Devotion...
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mcmagic posted:So everyone really underestimated how good Sign in Blood is..... Is this a response to something in particular? Debating if they replace Connections in my BW standard deck.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Is this a response to something in particular? Debating if they replace Connections in my BW standard deck. Sign in Blood didn't see much play this weekend at pro tour. Also, one of the major guys who did run it got his rear end kicked apparently.
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I have zero idea from personal experience, but Owen Turtenwald mentioned Sign in Blood in his article today, and the takeaway I got was that in most situations where you'd play Sign, Read the Bones is probably better.
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