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Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx
Every time one of my friends posts ultrasound/baby pictures it reminds me that I'm still single. :smith:

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Dogfish
Nov 4, 2009

Stairs posted:

Childbirth isn't really heroic because every other animal on Earth does it and you never see glurge-y memes about "a mother sewer rat's love" and at least in first world countries its usually voluntary. I have given birth four times and the women who post crap about the magic of birth make me laugh. Heroic is running into a burning building to save some kids/a dog/ grandma's last surviving photo of the son she lost in 'Nam. Birth isn't anything special.

Well, most other animals don't die in childbirth as much as humans do, because we're the only animal with the awkward big head/upright-walking pelvis combo. I don't know, I've been to a lot of births and I've seen a lot of people push themselves to the limit mentally and physically to get their drat babies out; that's at least as heroic as, say, running a marathon. I know a lot of people don't want to have a limit experience when they want to have a baby, which is why it's awesome that we have epidurals for those people, but I've seen a lot of people who were looking to push themselves and boy did they.

I get as irritated as the next person about that twee "I'm a chauffeur/I'm a chef/I'm an event planner/tee hee I'm all those things because I'm a MOM" as the next person, and I don't think having a baby necessarily has to be defined as the most important thing you can do with your body but it's pretty crazy when you get right down to it.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Dogfish posted:

Well, most other animals don't die in childbirth as much as humans do, because we're the only animal with the awkward big head/upright-walking pelvis combo. I don't know, I've been to a lot of births and I've seen a lot of people push themselves to the limit mentally and physically to get their drat babies out; that's at least as heroic as, say, running a marathon. I know a lot of people don't want to have a limit experience when they want to have a baby, which is why it's awesome that we have epidurals for those people, but I've seen a lot of people who were looking to push themselves and boy did they.

I get as irritated as the next person about that twee "I'm a chauffeur/I'm a chef/I'm an event planner/tee hee I'm all those things because I'm a MOM" as the next person, and I don't think having a baby necessarily has to be defined as the most important thing you can do with your body but it's pretty crazy when you get right down to it.

I think that's a Kenny Chesney song?

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Dogfish posted:

I get as irritated as the next person about that twee "I'm a chauffeur/I'm a chef/I'm an event planner/tee hee I'm all those things because I'm a MOM" as the next person, and I don't think having a baby necessarily has to be defined as the most important thing you can do with your body but it's pretty crazy when you get right down to it.

What really, really, reeeeaaaaaaally grates on my nerves is when a woman with a two year old child says crap like that and acts like she's on the same level as a chef working in a top tier restaurant with more experience making food than she has life. Yeah, I get it, being a parent isn't easy and it takes a lot of skills to do effectively, but it does not magically grant you the same skill set as a chef. You're cooking for like three to six people, most likely. A chef cooks for hundreds to thousands. Really, it's a different skill set and being a mother for a few years also doesn't turn you into a gourmet chef that could create a lobster thermidor the likes of which could make a jaded old emperor weep with joy.

That and all this bullshit circulating around social media of "well I'm a mother and I know what's best for my children!" as if giving birth suddenly makes a person an expert on anything medical. Going to medical school gives you medical knowledge not producing offspring. Having babies doesn't grant you the authority to decide that alternative medicine is better than real medicine because reasons.

Being a good mother is certainly something we should respect but let's be honest, you don't become Dr. Chef Jesus.

karl fungus
May 6, 2011

Baeume sind auch Freunde
I'm turning 25 in a few weeks. Several old high school friends have already gotten married. How long until I get to experience the baby spam?

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

karl fungus posted:

I'm turning 25 in a few weeks. Several old high school friends have already gotten married. How long until I get to experience the baby spam?

It's coming. Started when I was about your age for me.

A strict "One poo policy" will keep you sane. Basically, as soon as someone post a status update including information about their baby's poo poo, the consistency, quantity and color thereof, unsubscribe from them. They've gone beyond the salvageable.

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

karl fungus posted:

I'm turning 25 in a few weeks. Several old high school friends have already gotten married. How long until I get to experience the baby spam?

About a year. Then again in 3 years when they all have their second. After that they're too tired to give a crap.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

karl fungus posted:

I'm turning 25 in a few weeks. Several old high school friends have already gotten married. How long until I get to experience the baby spam?

Wait until one of your baby-mad friends has a miscarriage. Upsetting, sure. But if they're particularly nuts, they will post on the anniversary of that miscarriage for years about poor baby [[nChild_name]] who, at least, is with Jesus now, smiling down on their parents.

razorrozar
Feb 21, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

Wait until one of your baby-mad friends has a miscarriage. Upsetting, sure. But if they're particularly nuts, they will post on the anniversary of that miscarriage for years about poor baby [[nChild_name]] who, at least, is with Jesus now, smiling down on their parents.

loss.txt?

ARMBAR A COP
Nov 24, 2007


Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

Wait until one of your baby-mad friends has a miscarriage. Upsetting, sure. But if they're particularly nuts, they will post on the anniversary of that miscarriage for years about poor baby [[nChild_name]] who, at least, is with Jesus now, smiling down on their parents.

Yeah, my good friend's wife had a still born, and they went nuts. They posted pictures of the dead kid and everything =/

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



ToxicSlurpee posted:

That and all this bullshit circulating around social media of "well I'm a mother and I know what's best for my children!" as if giving birth suddenly makes a person an expert on anything medical. Going to medical school gives you medical knowledge not producing offspring. Having babies doesn't grant you the authority to decide that alternative medicine is better than real medicine because reasons.

gently caress I hate that more than anything else. People who have been practicing medicine longer than you've been alive probably know a thing or two you don't. That kind of arrogance gets children killed.

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Stottie Kyek
Apr 26, 2008

fuckin egg in a bun
I guess it makes sense in the context of knowing what's best for socialising with and relating to the kid. The parents know the kid's personality best (if they're good parents anyway), so they know what they like and what kind of support they need. A shy kid with low self-esteem needs more encouragement, and an egotistical kid needs more emphasis on things like taking turns and playing with others. Some kids really like noisy, colourful toys, other kids are terrified of them. All kids are different like that. But when parents overstep into areas that don't depend on the kid's personality, and it crosses over into things where professionals really do know best, like medicine, nutrition and education, there's a big problem.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

BonHair posted:

The thing that gets me is that it's just wasting fuel for no reason. I get that you don't care, but you are pretty much just burning (extra) money to prove a stupid point.
It's more than that they just don't care: they're going out of their way to cause poo poo because there are people who do care. I went to school with this rear end in a top hat who mixes his fuel with heptane because he heard that it's a worse pollutant than octane.

It's like a perverse form of the yin-yang philosophy.

Mezzanine
Aug 23, 2009
It would be like some hambeast going to a restaurant and throwing his food at other patrons because they eat less than him.

Horrible Smutbeast
Sep 2, 2011

razorrozar posted:

Alright, fair enough. That's still ten or fifteen times as much food you put into it as you're trying to produce so I still think meat farming is a bad thing.

This has probably been beaten to death like the cow that makes up the hamburger I'm about to eat, but not all land is created equal and not all land can produce food edible for humans. Sometimes all the land can produce is lovely cattle feed that only cows can digest. If humans ate it, we'd die of starvation.

On the other hand, down with lovely organic farming. All my relatives post that crap about organic being better for the environment but never post about how farmers are destroying rainforest just to grow some lovely soy beans where half the crop will fail and die due to bugs and diseases.

AngryRobotsInc
Aug 2, 2011

I have one of those parents on my facebook. She's also the crunchy granola hippie one, so that's fun. She unschools, for added bonus.

I will say though, through the circles I've run in having a special needs child, I've known a fair number of people who become those crazy "I know what is best for my child!" parents because they've been failed by the system time and time again when it comes to their child's needs in education. You kind of have to become that parent in that case. They take it to extremes, but for some it's coming from a legitimate place.

PUGGERNAUT
Nov 14, 2013

I AM INCREDIBLY BORING AND SHOULD STOP TALKING ABOUT FOOD IN THE POLITICS THREAD

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

Wait until one of your baby-mad friends has a miscarriage. Upsetting, sure. But if they're particularly nuts, they will post on the anniversary of that miscarriage for years about poor baby [[nChild_name]] who, at least, is with Jesus now, smiling down on their parents.

I had a classmate enter her stillborn baby in one of those baby beauty pageants. And she spammed everyone for pity votes. So every day until I hid her updates, I had to risk seeing a giant photo of a dead baby on my newsfeed. Depressing as hell :(

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Doctors and experts also tend to address one-size-fits-all generalizations. They look at statistics, which may not apply to our special little angels. My doctor was all alarmed at my kid's BMI at age 11. On paper she looked unhealthy, but I knew her eating habits and activity levels. Sure enough by age 12 she had sprouted 6 inches and was now underweight.

Of course when it comes to vaccines and medicines, doctors kind of know more than the general population.

karl fungus
May 6, 2011

Baeume sind auch Freunde
So when you get a stillborn, the hospital's just like, "here you go, see ya"?

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx
Can't you report dead baby pictures? Like it sucks but that's how the dice roll.

CombatBonta-kun
Sep 22, 2003
Ehhhh?

Crain posted:

^^It's like telling a child to wash their hands after using the bathroom before lunch and they decide to poo poo on their hands before eating a sandwich. ^^


Yeah, there are plenty of videos of socially inebriated assholes "coal rolling" cyclists.

This one isn't as bad as some I've seen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdDxjge5hmY

Then there are these assholes who do it to pedestrians, stop up traffic and spray into peoples cars, and other wonderful examples of why we need a new plague:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbAhfThNoco

I remember the first time I saw someone "rolling coal". It was about 3 years ago and I was stopped at a pretty busy intersection. This dick in a huge Dodge was about 4 cars in front of me. At first I thought there was something wrong since he was just billowing out black smoke. He must have been keeping that engine at about 4,000 rpm because it was just spewing smoke. It was a bright summer afternoon and he put so much diesel exhaust in the air, I couldn't even see the traffic lights. He was causing a legit safety hazard since he had reduced visibility to about 50 feet. I really can't see the point of this other than announcing to the world that you are a huge rear end in a top hat and should probably be beaten with a rubber hose.

I sincerely hope that every single one of these fuckers has to watch as their trucks get compacted into a metal cube and then they get slapped with a nice four figure ticket on top of it.

JGdmn
Jun 12, 2005

Like I give a fuck.

karl fungus posted:

So when you get a stillborn, the hospital's just like, "here you go, see ya"?

No, but they let you see it (hold it, whatever) and then give you the option of disposal or burial/cremation.

I'll say from experience it's pretty terrible.

Crusty Nutsack
Apr 21, 2005

SUCK LASER, COPPERS


karl fungus posted:

So when you get a stillborn, the hospital's just like, "here you go, see ya"?

Pretty much. If you'd like to see the baby then they put you in a private room and let you take as much time with it as you like. There's a nonprofit organization of professional photographers that often comes around and takes photographs if you'd like, for free of course. Because a lot of time the parents don't think to do something like that, or feel uncomfortable or just don't know what to do. Often the parents are grateful after the fact that there's a nice photo they can use to remember. It's not always just a pic of the dead baby either, they're actually tasteful where the mother is holding the baby or whatever.

Anyhow yeah seeing pics of dead babies on facebook is kind of lame, but I give those parents more leeway than the ones who just post constant poo poo about their kids that doesn't matter. Because really, unless you're in that situation, who knows how you'd react. Going from planning for a new baby to immediately planning their funeral is rough poo poo.

Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2695755/Police-Arrested-man-ordered-5-pizzas-station.html

He went down fighting, in his own way.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

karl fungus posted:

I'm turning 25 in a few weeks. Several old high school friends have already gotten married. How long until I get to experience the baby spam?

Ha, it already started for me when I was 22. Consider yourself lucky, or perhaps appreciate your school's sex education program.

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

Just saw this posted unironically believing it's a real display of fireworks.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10203410283609532

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

we will go far into the sea
you will take me
onto your back
never look back
never look back



Clearly peace talks will be much more successful with the terrorists in charge!

Blind Pineapple
Oct 27, 2010

For The Perfect Fruit 'n' Kaman

1 part gin
1 part pomegranate syrup
Fill with pineapple juice
Serve over crushed ice

College Slice
Holy poo poo, that Star Wars pic is the gift that keeps on giving.

karl fungus
May 6, 2011

Baeume sind auch Freunde
I have no idea who Soros or the Koch brothers or other quasi-political figures are, but I've generally learned that when people use terms like "bankster" or "sheeple" or invoke their names, usually in political ranting about the latest news item of the week, it's safe to let my eyes glaze over and stop paying attention.

I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax
They're incredibly powerful industrialists and financiers with a huge amount of clout and influence.
Soros isn't really that influential in America though, so generally if you see an American talking about him in relation to American stuff they're talking out of their rear end.

Edit: Well, influential compared to the Koch brothers or Sheldon Adelson or other guys like that. He's still orders of magnitude more influential than any of us, of course.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Picnic Princess posted:

Just saw this posted unironically believing it's a real display of fireworks.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10203410283609532

That was still really cool though.

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

Oh for sure, if they had posted "This is a really cool rendering program that produces gorgeous results that I wish existed in real life" I would have totally agreed, rather than "The Chinese are the best at fireworks because they've been doing it for 7000 years! Here's proof!"

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

Picnic Princess posted:

Oh for sure, if they had posted "This is a really cool rendering program that produces gorgeous results that I wish existed in real life" I would have totally agreed, rather than "The Chinese are the best at fireworks because they've been doing it for 7000 years! Here's proof!"

Well, is it a Chinese program doing the rendering? This is important.

moerketid
Jul 3, 2012

News website comment sections count, right?

From "DutchNews.nl" which is a news website in English for foreigners in the Netherlands, like myself. News piece: "Dutch MPs return from break to discuss MH17 crash, Russia's role"



Sometimes conspiracy theorists just fly right off the deep end.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

moerketid posted:

Sometimes conspiracy theorists just fly right off the deep end.

And no SAM can ever bring them down again...

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.
While I would hesitate to call a reality where the US has covert anti-air lasers better, I can say with some certainty that it would be cooler.

Aphtonites
Dec 25, 2012

Sure, Jailbot was broken, but
weren't we all at some point? :(
On the topic of conspiracy nuts:

He only moved to the US a few months ago :cripes:

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy

Picnic Princess posted:

Just saw this posted unironically believing it's a real display of fireworks.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10203410283609532
I really want to play Missile Command now.

Soviet Commubot
Oct 22, 2008


Aphtonites posted:

On the topic of conspiracy nuts:

He only moved to the US a few months ago :cripes:

You get some pretty crazy conspiracy people outside the US too. I didn't screen cap it because I didn't feel like translating but I saw a guy in a French language public group post a big crazy rant about how regionalist and separatist movements in Europe, specifically in Scotland, Catalonia, Alsace, the Basque Country and Brittany were created whole cloth and funded by the US, Germany and the European Union to weaken the idea of traditional European nation-states to pave the way for a United States of Europe. Bill Clinton was involved, I don't remember exactly how.

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Question Mark Mound
Jun 14, 2006

Tokyo Crystal Mew
Dancing Godzilla
So the US planned for all these countries to want to out of Europe, so that they will want to no longer be countries but instead become just states within the nation of Europe? :confused:

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