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How big is the (not classified?) scan/monitor range on an AWACS, anyway? I've never really bothered to think about it before.Godholio posted:B-move a tanker into it. hah  KC-135 - "Dick move, AWACS bros."
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Northrop says 250mi radius.
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KodiakRS posted:I once got chewed out by an angry octogenarian because my civilian flight school had the gall to buzz his house with an F-16. He didn't believe when I told him that we had not, in fact, selected the F-16 as our new single engine trainer to replace our aging 172s. The best part was that I pretty much had to yell into the phone to get him to hear me because he was almost deaf.* I think I've posted this before but, about 15 years ago there were some developers looking to build a Daytona-style superspeedway here in NY, with a road course, drag strip, the works. It was gonna have the funding and everything, NASCAR was on board and VikingSkull was an excited teenager. Then it got shut down due to noise concerns. It was going to be built on the Stewart buffer lands. Home of the C-5.
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Jul 22, 2014 02:12
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^Thats insane. hobbesmaster posted:Northrop says 250mi radius. Yup. And that's good enough for government work.
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Jul 22, 2014 02:19
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hobbesmaster posted:Northrop says 250mi radius. [I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE.jpg]  Tangential related: How sterile are all the crew in the plane underneath the dish now? 
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The story is (and in all honesty, what I've seen matches) that you'll only have girls. Unless you and your spouse are both AWACS aircrew, in which case you'll only have boys. I heard this when I was going through training at Tyndall from crusty old retired enlisted instructors, and I paid attention when I started flying. It held up.  The only people I knew who had boys after flying were couples. I think there was one exception, but I can't even remember who it was so I might be imagining it.Edit: Comedy answer, they're mostly a bunch of goon-like nerds so nobody will ever know. Edit2: VVV It's the chemtrail fumes. Godholio fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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Jul 22, 2014 03:23
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NONIONIZING RADIATION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY (I swear there was a morbo emote)
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Godholio posted:^Thats insane. quote:In 1971, today's Stewart State Forest was first set aside as the "Stewart Bufferlands," when the State condemned 8,076 acres to the west of then Stewart Air Force Base. The land was to become the east coast's premier Super Sonic Transport (SST) airport, and the large buffer was needed for expansion and noise abatement. The State bought 802 parcels of land, removing 337 farms and houses, and almost 1,200 people. http://www.dec.ny.gov/lands/50095.html That, I did not know. Imagine the complaints if that was a Concorde hub 
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I read something in a Discover magazine way back that fighter jockeys have a higher rate of fathering girls, the thinking was the g forces but perhaps being exposed to a lot of EMF? It was one of those last page of the magazine articles so more lighthearted than usual.
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hobbesmaster posted:NONIONIZING RADIATION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY That's just what they tell you when they inject they the tracking chip during induction and immunization. Wake up, Hobbesles!  (can't a guy make a radiation joke up in this piece? come on I put a and everything!)(vvv - nope. I love Futurama but didn't know "[X] DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT" was a thing. Ohhhh Morbo.  )
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Jul 22, 2014 04:12
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The futurama quote didn't tip you off?
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Godholio posted:Or even just shut down and go home if needed. Wouldn't that be almost as good as actually scoring a kill?
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gently caress trophy 2k14 posted:Wouldn't that be almost as good as actually scoring a kill? Aside from not killing 20+ people, several of whom spent over 2 years in training just to learn to do their jobs, and destroying a half-billion dollar aircraft that can't be replaced, yes. I addressed this on the last page.
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It got overshadowed by the MH17 shoot down, but Tripoli Airport got attacked last week and quite a few airliners got blown up or damaged.    quote:DESTROYED:
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hobbesmaster posted:NONIONIZING RADIATION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY Speaking of radiation, here's one I never saw before. Helicopter flying Chernobyl cleanup duties clips a crane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s40uKLCjcU
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Phanatic posted:Speaking of radiation, here's one I never saw before. Helicopter flying Chernobyl cleanup duties clips a crane: Those comments make me really heated. Radiation is apparently this nebulous force that can melt helicopter rotor blades.
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A Melted Tarp posted:Those comments make me really heated. Radiation is apparently this nebulous force that can melt helicopter rotor blades. Well, if there was one place on the planet where radiation could melt helicopter blades it'd be right* there. *right there meaning 100ft or so below there
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gently caress you island! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c-vJ9gVJm0
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The seats in united's new CRJ 700 are horrible and dumb. 3 hours on this thing sucked rear end.
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Jealous Cow posted:The seats in united's new CRJ 700 are horrible and dumb. 3 hours on this thing sucked rear end. Christ that's a long RJ flight. Where were you O&D? It was nice when Delta killed 50-seaters on flights over 750 miles. I still have a 600 mile leg every now and again and that's about the limit of my endurance on those. I don't mind the CRJ7s and 9s as much.
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Jul 22, 2014 20:48
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A Melted Tarp posted:Those comments make me really heated. Radiation is apparently this nebulous force that can melt helicopter rotor blades. However, some of the videos have a lot of spots on them because the film was sensitive to radiation. There's even a video of some people on the beach like that, before they told people to evacuate.
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Film is a hell of a lot more sensitive to radiation than people or helicopter blades, though.
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Jealous Cow posted:The seats in united's new CRJ 700 are horrible and dumb. 3 hours on this thing sucked rear end. Just booked my 4th flight between AUS and SFO in the last 2.5 months on an RJ7. 3h45m 
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What's the general opinion of airline dispatch? Mystical weather wizards? Fuel economy obsessives? Any commercial/big airline dispatchers in the thread with stories to tell? Just learned dispatch is more than I thought it was; a work chum wants to do it but can't find any openings.
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:What's the general opinion of airline dispatch? Mystical weather wizards? Fuel economy obsessives? Any commercial/big airline dispatchers in the thread with stories to tell? You mean like SOC (system operations control, or equivalent)? I haven't got any stories yet, but I'm sure I will in the coming years... That's right, I'm hanging up my tools and going to jockey a desk at maintenance control. New challenges, bright horizons and all that. I'll definitely miss being airside, but I'm sure there'll be a few opportunities to get to the hangar or line to get my anorak fix if I'm really jonesing. And there's always this old thread!
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I oughta see what's out there for me with my previous aviation experience. I know that flying is out of the question, which I'm alright with.
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FrozenVent posted:Film is a hell of a lot more sensitive to radiation than people or helicopter blades, though. Oh I know, I was more bringing up an anecdote than trying to compare the two. I think it's kind of fascinating though, I wish I could remember what to type in Youtube for good examples but maybe I'll try some other day.
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:What's the general opinion of airline dispatch? Mystical weather wizards? Fuel economy obsessives? Any commercial/big airline dispatchers in the thread with stories to tell? Seconding this- anyone have any wisdom about dispatch as a career? I'm thinking about taking classes for the dispatch license this fall but not completely convinced it'll be worth the investment. The school says there are many jobs opening in the next 6-12 months, but a less biased source would be greatly appreciated!
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Are there any SAM systems that actually track a transponder? Not just interrogating to prevent blue-on-blue/blue-on-white shots, but actually homing on the signal. That sounds like it would be a war crime waiting to happen. I don't know about that specifically , but on a related note I do know that Vietnam F-4 RWRs would light up when they detected MiG-21 IFF signals. They didn't interrogate, but I suppose the circumstances didn't leave a MiG-21 IFF uninterrogated for long. And given that fairly sophisticated capability existed in the medieval days of EW, the stuff they have today is going to be pretty hot. Anything radiated by any military unit, a ship's cannon aiming radar or a tank talking to another tank, is useful for their enemies. atomicthumbs posted:Wait, I just realized that active countermeasures for airliners are entirely the wrong way to go. Not effective, and way too expensive, with all those other complications to boot. What we really need is for Russia to stop being assholes.
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:What's the general opinion of airline dispatch? Mystical weather wizards? Fuel economy obsessives? Any commercial/big airline dispatchers in the thread with stories to tell? Just About Done posted:Seconding this- anyone have any wisdom about dispatch as a career? I'm thinking about taking classes for the dispatch license this fall but not completely convinced it'll be worth the investment. The school says there are many jobs opening in the next 6-12 months, but a less biased source would be greatly appreciated! My wife is a dispatcher for a 121 carrier and has experience with a 121 supplemental carrier as well (although that was a while ago). She loves her job and is happy to answer any questions.
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Don't most IFF's get turned off in warzones anyway, precisely because it gives you away. Which is one of the reasons BVR missile shots are actually so rare, because no reliable IFF makes reliable targeting (i.e avoiding friendly fire) so hard.
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Deptfordx posted:Don't most IFF's get turned off in warzones anyway, precisely because it gives you away. Which is one of the reasons BVR missile shots are actually so rare, because no reliable IFF makes reliable targeting (i.e avoiding friendly fire) so hard. Which is funny, because Identification Friend or Foe was invented for wartime use. Airliner/GA transponders are something else, although they work on the same principle.
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hobbesmaster posted:I always wondered why there wasn't an anti AWACS ARM missile, but then... NPO Novator has product for you! It big missile!  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KS-172 One of the many projects that kept steaming on after the fall of the USSR, despite the utter disinterest of the VVS. Aero737 posted:Tripoli Airport attack details Libya is a place that really, by now, deserves better poo poo than this. Plastic_Gargoyle fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Jul 23, 2014 |
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Deptfordx posted:Don't most IFF's get turned off in warzones anyway, precisely because it gives you away. Which is one of the reasons BVR missile shots are actually so rare, because no reliable IFF makes reliable targeting (i.e avoiding friendly fire) so hard. It depends. An IFF interrogation and the response or lack thereof are usually part of the identification process, but how important it is and where it fits in is operation-specific. That info will also be classified.
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I'm going to pretend that its like every modern military flight sim and the fighter pilots just lock up every blip one by one on their screen and say in an inconsistent voice "Sentry 1-1, falcon 2-1, declare!"
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That's not uncommon. F-15Cs and F-22s don't do it as much, just because that's their bread and butter, but when poo poo gets busy enough it still happens. If AWACS/GCI does it's job right, all that poo poo was broadcast already though.
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Ola posted:What we really need is for Russia to stop being assholes. Yeah, but what are the chances of that happening?
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atomicthumbs posted:Yeah, but what are the chances of that happening? Russia will always be that unbearable Eastern European power. If not them, then who? Lithuania?
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YF19pilot posted:Russia will always be that unbearable Eastern European power. If not them, then who? Lithuania? Time for them to link up with Poland again...
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MrChips posted:Time for them to link up with Poland again... Lithuania or Russia? 
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