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RSCNyx
Mar 6, 2013

It's okay, little guy. I would be scared too.

Seshoho Cian posted:

While we're on this Dark Souls tangent, does anyone know which of slowbeef's Dark Souls videos has the most deaths? Or at least point me to one with a frequent number of deaths.

Ornstein and Smough, I believe! The awesome gif he made came from one of those updates, too.

And yeah, what ChaosArgate said. Golems are durable, resistant to multiple damage types, and will easily knock you off a ledge, even when blocking. It's pretty, but it's short and easily forgettable.

RSCNyx fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jul 23, 2014

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AnoHito
May 8, 2014

ChaosArgate posted:

Invisible walkways kinda suck and combat against golems on narrow paths is a pain in the rear end? Also the one optional path there is a winding invisible walkway and that's no fun.

Pretty much this, along with the fact that the slopes on the walkways can be kind of screwy at times, leading to many a plummet to your death.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
I dunno. I didn't bother fighting the golems. Run past them always just stumble off. The pathways were big enough and had snowflakes falling on it. And I stopped bothering picking up items off bodies in precarious places because 90% of the time it's a soul item, and souls are easy enough to farm by that point. The optional winding pathway sounds bad, though.

I died to the crabs many times, but I never actually fell off the pathway. I'm quite certain I did some sort of sequence break or shortcut with the way I navigate Crystal Cave, because I see a bunch of golems that I never fought.

heytallman
Aug 30, 2013

Is not actually tall.
I feel like I probably slipped off a few of the slanted walkways a few times, which is always frustrating. Also, the boss of that area is one of the few places in the game you can get cursed, if I'm remembering right, which is never fun. I don't remember it being SO bad though.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Suspicious Dish posted:

I dunno. I didn't bother fighting the golems. Run past them always just stumble off. The pathways were big enough and had snowflakes falling on it. And I stopped bothering picking up items off bodies in precarious places because 90% of the time it's a soul item, and souls are easy enough to farm by that point. The optional winding pathway sounds bad, though.

I died to the crabs many times, but I never actually fell off the pathway. I'm quite certain I did some sort of sequence break or shortcut with the way I navigate Crystal Cave, because I see a bunch of golems that I never fought.

I always try sprinting past the golems but they always end up knocking me off. :( Also I believe the last few walkways don't have snowflakes (also the optional one) and I've managed to walk across one of them at just the wrong angle so that it looked like I was going straight on the path but I was really walking towards the edge.

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

Let's Play! > The Miscellaneous Outside-SA LP Crap Shoot: Don't Metnion Dark Souls. Seriously.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Instead let's talk about things that really matter like how worryingly dense some of the people who watch Retsupurae are.



What the comment was in response to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZOaNziVbW4&t=244s

RSCNyx
Mar 6, 2013

It's okay, little guy. I would be scared too.
Wow, I'm happy I didn't expand that comment...

I didn't think a slight off-hand mention of Anita would cause that to happen. I blame Cobra 3D being a piece of poo poo.

AnoHito
May 8, 2014

So your point is that Youtube comments suck?
This isn't exactly news...

a cartoon duck
Sep 5, 2011

RSCNyx posted:

Wow, I'm happy I didn't expand that comment...

I didn't think a slight off-hand mention of Anita would cause that to happen. I blame Cobra 3D being a piece of poo poo.

Sarkeesian is the Dark Souls of video games.

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe
I've never watched one of Anita Sarkeesian's videos, but the fact that she drives the worst sort of people online mad suggests that she's doing something right.

IGgy IGsen
Apr 11, 2013

"If I lose I will set myself on fire."

AnoHito posted:

So your point is that Youtube comments suck?
This isn't exactly news...

Normally they suck because people put zero effort into it.

That guy put thought into it and took his time to create something that's just as bad as those comments. He wrote all that when all we needed to hear was one word "first!"

Mr. Soop
Feb 18, 2011

Bonsai Guy

IGgy IGsen posted:

Normally they suck because people put zero effort into it.

That guy put thought into it and took his time to create something that's just as bad as those comments. He wrote all that when all we needed to hear was one word "first!"

Must have been the same guy from the Do You Wanna' Dance With Kim? retsufrash video.

Cobra videos are also an excellent vehicle for half-assed discussions like that though, rather than, you know, actual videos talking about those subjects. Everyone knows this. :v:

RSCNyx
Mar 6, 2013

It's okay, little guy. I would be scared too.
To kinda bring things back to LP a bit, should you allow YouTube comments? Anyone can leave a comment, and spoil things in a game you're LPing. This is particularly bad if it's a first-impressions/blind LP, or wanting to surprise your viewers. And, of course, they could just be massive jerks raging because you don't like what they like.

I know some LPs I've seen disabled comments.


Mr. Soop posted:

Cobra videos are also an excellent vehicle for half-assed discussions like that though, rather than, you know, actual videos talking about those subjects. Everyone knows this. :v:

Well, yeah. I'm pretty sure everyone who was watching that video alt-tabbed and did something else. Then just brought up one of the topics randomly in the comments.

IGgy IGsen
Apr 11, 2013

"If I lose I will set myself on fire."

RSCNyx posted:

To kinda bring things back to LP a bit, should you allow YouTube comments? Anyone can leave a comment, and spoil things in a game you're LPing. This is particularly bad if it's a first-impressions/blind LP, or wanting to surprise your viewers. And, of course, they could just be massive jerks raging because you don't like what they like.

I know some LPs I've seen disabled comments.

The great thing about Youtube comments these days is that they don't load until you scroll down. If you don't want to see spoilers there's no reason to scroll down anyway. Not even to see related videos because those are more likely to spoil stuff. However. if you are an LPer and LP something blind, which is what you were getting at, you'll probably wanna turn them off. Because google constantly bugs you about new comments and stuff and eventually you'll look at it just to get that red number to go away.

Personally I don't really see much of a reason to disable comments other than excluding a part of your audience from a potential discussion.

slowbeef
Mar 15, 2005

Will Harvey hates you, and everything you stand for.
Pillbug

RSCNyx posted:

To kinda bring things back to LP a bit, should you allow YouTube comments? Anyone can leave a comment, and spoil things in a game you're LPing. This is particularly bad if it's a first-impressions/blind LP, or wanting to surprise your viewers. And, of course, they could just be massive jerks raging because you don't like what they like.

TotalBiscuit disabled comments and says he had no loss in viewership. That said, two things:

1. If you wanna be rich and famous on YouTube, leave comments on. Videos that have them get more viewership than those that don't. He's big enough to not be affected by that kinda stuff, though.
2. People get pissed about YouTube comments. If you delete bad ones, you'll get called out for "censorship." Some will even do it if you disable them from the get-go.

I don't care that much because it gives me more poo poo to laugh at. See: Retsupurae Cobra 6 above.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Bringing back Nerd Cubed, he likewise disabled comments almost as soon as Google+ integration hit them. He got hit by the initial spam wave of "Bob and his tank" and other poo poo made by people taking advantage of the removed character limit and his attempts to stop it got ignored, so he just turned off all comments and now directs people to his Subreddit if they want to discuss his videos.

The way he sees it, the YouTube comment section is a cesspool that provides little to his channel. I think the big theory is that keeping the discussion on a different website that has some level of user moderation (through the downvoting system hiding bad or spam comments) and requires a separate account means that spam and trolling requires more effort than just scrolling down, bashing the keyboard, and clicking.

RSCNyx
Mar 6, 2013

It's okay, little guy. I would be scared too.

slowbeef posted:

1. If you wanna be rich and famous on YouTube, leave comments on. Videos that have them get more viewership than those that don't. He's big enough to not be affected by that kinda stuff, though.

Do comments actually affect search rankings? Or is it the hope that "word of mouth" will help spread the video to more people?

IGgy IGsen posted:

Personally I don't really see much of a reason to disable comments other than excluding a part of your audience from a potential discussion.

For the most part, I agree. It may be needed if your viewers are toxic, or going hogwild with all kinds of spoilers/backseat gaming. Really depends on the community/game.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

RSCNyx posted:

Do comments actually affect search rankings? Or is it the hope that "word of mouth" will help spread the video to more people?

I don't think comment numbers affect anything as much as raw viewership does.

ElTipejoLoco
Feb 27, 2013

Let me fix your avisynth scripts! It'll only take me a couple horus.

RSCNyx posted:

Do comments actually affect search rankings? Or is it the hope that "word of mouth" will help spread the video to more people?
I think it affects overall video views when the comments devolve into huge shouting contests, because most of the views end up being people revisiting terrible conversations to get the last word in. Which may or may not become word of mouth when they go and complain about said exchanges off-site and unintentionally direct more traffic to the video.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!

RSCNyx posted:

Do comments actually affect search rankings? Or is it the hope that "word of mouth" will help spread the video to more people?

I dunno if they still do or not, but I think that comments used to be one of the things that have an influence on related videos and the like.

RSCNyx
Mar 6, 2013

It's okay, little guy. I would be scared too.

ElTipejoLoco posted:

I think it affects overall video views when the comments devolve into huge shouting contests, because most of the views end up being people revisiting terrible conversations to get the last word in. Which may or may not become word of mouth when they go and complain about said exchanges off-site and unintentionally direct more traffic to the video.

I dunno, with Google+, if that applies anymore. You can click on the bell thing to be linked to comment threads you've made/posted in, and respond from there without clicking on the video again.

Unless that counts as a view somehow.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Youtube comments I can understand disabling.

Ratings, I think it's way oversensitive to disable.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Youtube comments I can understand disabling.

Ratings, I think it's way oversensitive to disable.

Nobody has ever disabled ratings unless they knew the video would be hated. Which should tell you something.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

chitoryu12 posted:

Nobody has ever disabled ratings unless they knew the video would be hated. Which should tell you something.

Not really no.

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

Holy poo poo I didn't think that would actually work

<------------ :love:

slowbeef
Mar 15, 2005

Will Harvey hates you, and everything you stand for.
Pillbug

Genocyber posted:

Holy poo poo I didn't think that would actually work

I said this when I used Havel's Armor to beat Ornstein & Smough.

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

slowbeef posted:

I said this when I used Havel's Armor to beat Ornstein & Smough.

Facetanking poo poo can be surprisingly effective. Probably the most fun I've had in the original Dark Souls was going heavy armor fat roll and giant fuckoff hammer and not even bothering to dodge.

A Bystander
Oct 10, 2012

slowbeef posted:

I said this when I used Havel's Armor to beat Ornstein & Smough.

Sometimes the best plans are the ones that don't make sense at first.

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

"You are the designed output that travels in the loop of Something Awful to the Dark Souls Discussion, back to the beginning where you do it all again and again and again and again. These calculations confirm that you exist in some kind of circular reality"

slowbeef
Mar 15, 2005

Will Harvey hates you, and everything you stand for.
Pillbug
I guess in an attempt to re-rail poo poo (even though I've certainly contributed) here is a video where TieTuesday, decafdelinquent, and I make fun of Touhou.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhGdekaHhYA

The comments are kinda awesome in a way.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
You could have saved bandwidth only uploading the first 5 seconds of that video, since that's all anybody will ever watch.

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!



slowbeef posted:

I guess in an attempt to re-rail poo poo (even though I've certainly contributed) here is a video where TieTuesday, decafdelinquent, and I make fun of Touhou.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhGdekaHhYA

The comments are kinda awesome in a way.

I'm actually glad you turned the music off, because that game has some of the worst instrumentation in the series. Composition is good, but ugh, that music. That said, the Touhou fandom is actually what made me leave behind this series.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014


Meaning, I've never seen any video with ratings disabled that wasn't poo poo or extremely controversial (to put it lightly). Generally if you come across a video with ratings disabled, it means that the author knew that it would get a massive number of downvotes (probably because it's a poo poo video) and doesn't want it visible.

slowbeef
Mar 15, 2005

Will Harvey hates you, and everything you stand for.
Pillbug

chitoryu12 posted:

Meaning, I've never seen any video with ratings disabled that wasn't poo poo or extremely controversial (to put it lightly). Generally if you come across a video with ratings disabled, it means that the author knew that it would get a massive number of downvotes (probably because it's a poo poo video) and doesn't want it visible.

Oddly enough, downvotes do help search rankings.

a cartoon duck
Sep 5, 2011

Takoluka posted:

I'm actually glad you turned the music off, because that game has some of the worst instrumentation in the series. Composition is good, but ugh, that music. That said, the Touhou fandom is actually what made me leave behind this series.

Rule 6 in the ADTRW Touhou Megathread is "Nobody really wants to hear about the pornography you did or did not intentionally watch". They make Dark Souls fan seem like lovely people.

Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

slowbeef posted:

Oddly enough, downvotes do help search rankings.

If I recall this one correctly it's because both up and down votes on YouTube are just tracked as "votes" so you can have a video with a ton more down than up votes than a video with more upvotes than downvotes, but lower volume.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

slowbeef posted:

Oddly enough, downvotes do help search rankings.

Wait, as in more downvotes get you higher on the list?

slowbeef
Mar 15, 2005

Will Harvey hates you, and everything you stand for.
Pillbug

chitoryu12 posted:

Wait, as in more downvotes get you higher on the list?

More like total is what matters, I think.

Like 500 ups and 400 down (900 votes total) is better than 800 ups and 0 downs.

I would've thought up would carry more weight, but I don't know the specifics, only that downs do contribute positively.

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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

You know, that could explain the quality of the YouTube market.

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