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WoodrowSkillson posted:Auto industry employees from GM, Ford, Chrysler, and the suppliers based in Novi/Wixom, as well as farmers. Farmers often have high net worth's even if their personal spending is low. I completely expected that to be Oakland County but I guess Pontiac is pulling the rest of the county down.
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Call of Cholula posted:I completely expected that to be Oakland County but I guess Pontiac is pulling the rest of the county down. Yeah pontiac drives the overall per capita income down so you have the richest areas of the state not far from one of the poorer ones. Its still close to Livingston, just not meeting the threshold of the top 100 or whatever.
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Mustang posted:That's a map of civilizations according to Samuel Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations." The first thing of Huntington's I read was his piece about how scary Mexicans are, and now I can't take anything he's done seriously.
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Call of Cholula posted:I completely expected that to be Oakland County but I guess Pontiac is pulling the rest of the county down. My home town! *Celebration* I miss that place. 
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Badger of Basra posted:The first thing of Huntington's I read was his piece about how scary Mexicans are, and now I can't take anything he's done seriously. I'm reading Clash of Civilizations right now. I've come to disagree with this thesis, but the book isn't bad. One of the first things he does is say that "civilizations" are not set in stone, its just one way of looking at the world. He acknowledges that there is overlap and grey areas, that you could argue for greater or fewer civilizations, that the idea doesn't apply well to the past and may not apply to the future, etc. Count Roland fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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Count Roland posted:He acknowledges that there is overlap and grey areas, that you could argue for greater or fewer civilizations, that the idea doesn't apply well to the past and may not apply to the future, etc. So... it's pretty much only useful for grossly simplifying things and drawing arbitrary boundaries.
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I really don't think there's any need to pay attention to somebody who calls the interior of Tang dynasty borders "sinic". And everything else wrong with that map. If you want "civilizations" just read Toynbee or something. He met Hitler once, he'd clearly be more informed.
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Reading up on the Jesuits in the 30 years war and came across a fine map. It has the following text to accompany it: quote:The unholy Roman empire was a confederation of states that included Austria, Burgundy, Germany , Lombardy (northern Italy) and parts of France. Its founder was called Charles the Great or Charlemagne. He was crowned Emperor of this unholy empire by the Pope on Christmas day in the year 800 A.D.
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Under 15 posted:Reading up on the Jesuits in the 30 years war and came across a fine map. It has the following text to accompany it: The Italian government. 
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HEY GAL posted:The Italian government. The true Italian government, looking on helplessly from Constantinople!
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TheBalor posted:The true Italian government, looking on helplessly from Constantinople!
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Why is Ireland labeled "Scotia"? Why are the Byzantine Empire, the Iberian Union, and the (Kingdom? Republic?) of Italy all listed, implying that they were extant at the same time? Since when was "Eastern Europe" united into one state, separate from Russia?  edit: Oops, it was the Roman name for Ireland. Never mind...
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It was the Roman name for the people of Ireland and their language. It's only in the middle ages that the Gaelic languages started becoming dominant in what we now call Scotland.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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I thought Hibernia was the Roman/Latin name for Ireland? I am aware that Scotland gets its name from the Scotti tribes of northern Ireland migrating across the North Channel.
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Count Roland posted:I'm reading Clash of Civilizations right now. I've come to disagree with this thesis, but the book isn't bad. One of the first things he does is say that "civilizations" are not set in stone, its just one way of looking at the world. He acknowledges that there is overlap and grey areas, that you could argue for greater or fewer civilizations, that the idea doesn't apply well to the past and may not apply to the future, etc. Nessus fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Jul 23, 2014 |
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Nessus posted:Yeah, my impression was that the guy was wrongheaded and pretty prejudiced but at least he had some intellectual honesty. The Red Baron of reactionary histories, perhaps. I was never sure if he thought the development of the Davos Man was good or bad.
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Muscle Tracer posted:A map loaded with interstellar geo-politics!
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Muscle Tracer posted:A map loaded with interstellar geo-politics! This reminds me why the Mars Trilogy was so great. Mars is a cool planet. You can clearly see Valles Marineris and Olympus Mons. And you can see Pavonis Mons and co. just southeast of Olympus Mons.
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PittTheElder posted:It was the Roman name for the people of Ireland and their language. It's only in the middle ages that the Gaelic languages started becoming dominant in what we now call Scotland. Gaelic was never dominant in Scotland. The actual Scots language spoken by the lowland Scots and thus most of the population was a Germanic language and was more similar to Middle English than the Nordic languages are to each other.
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sparatuvs posted:Apparently Albania and Montenegro are Buddhist Ah yes, the Western bastion of Kaliningrad, Russia.
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Fabulous Knight posted:Ah yes, the Western bastion of Kaliningrad, Russia.
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Are those EU3 tech groups?
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So, if I understand this map and the central thesis of the book, the only countries with internal conflicts are Nigeria, Chad, Sudan (well, not anymore) Tanzania, Kenya, possibly India, China, the Philippines (which are completely hosed), Guyana, Suriname, and France but only in French Guyana. Everywhere else has all the same 'civilization' within its borders and should be perfectly peaceful, because ideology is dead. Have I got it right?
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Muscle Tracer posted:A map loaded with interstellar geo-politics! Oh man they got the GIS database and everything! Brb going to make some politically loaded mars maps. 
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Muscle Tracer posted:A map loaded with interstellar geo-politics! Wouldn't we call that galacto-politics?
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Wouldn't we call that galacto-politics?
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It's not interstellar either. Interplanetary geopolitics?
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DarkCrawler posted:It's not interstellar either. Interplanetary geopolitics? Interplanetary Solar-politics.
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Count Roland posted:I'm reading Clash of Civilizations right now. I've come to disagree with this thesis, but the book isn't bad. One of the first things he does is say that "civilizations" are not set in stone, its just one way of looking at the world. He acknowledges that there is overlap and grey areas, that you could argue for greater or fewer civilizations, that the idea doesn't apply well to the past and may not apply to the future, etc. I read it a while ago and it's not nearly as bad as some people seem to think it is. His main thesis is that conflicts in the post-Soviet world would tend to take place along cultural rather than ideological fault lines. His reasoning is occasionally simplistic and it's clear that he's writing from an American point of view throughout the book, but as a general model/prediction I'd say it's a lot less retarded than Fukuyama's The End of History and the Last Man.
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Time for another round of "guess the export"!
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Map request: I'm looking for an up to date map of oil and natural gas pipelines in the middle east. A search turns up a ton, but I don't know what to trust.
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I'm going to say wine. e: map is set pre-1979 when Iran still produced wine
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Phlegmish posted:I'm going to say wine. Maybe in 1978 but I don't Iran exports that much wine these days. Could be grapes though.
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Phlegmish posted:I'm going to say wine. computer parts posted:Maybe in 1978 but I don't Iran exports that much wine these days. Ah man, I painted over that thing too. It's 2005 data, sorry 'bout that.
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kalstrams posted:Actually, if anything, those would be interplanetary geo-politics. I guess what's politically loaded about this map is that you've all got such a geo-centric bias that you can't even consider the opinions of beings from other stars 
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It's definitely agricultural, since it's a more or less constant latitude range. It seems to be all in countries that have areas of mild winters and warm dry summers too. Grapes sounds good except there's so many countries that make grapes that aren't on there. I think it's gotta be some other fruit that does essentially the same environments as grapes but is less popular.
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It can't be wine, Australia's wine industry is based on the west coast, and I don't think that New Zealand would make so much. EDIT: Wait, maybe it is- I was going on the assumption that most of the wine there would be made on the west coast because that's the only part of the country with a Mediterranean climate. The Monkey Man fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jul 23, 2014 |
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The Monkey Man posted:It can't be wine, Australia's wine industry is based on the west coast, and I don't think that New Zealand would make so much. These maps try to cluster around the capital city rather than the growing region.
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