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Whirlwind Jones posted:The reason copying the iTunes Library directory directly over works is because of the iTunes Library.itl file within which contains all the information about how your library is structured. quote:It sounds like you're just copying the music directory over and adding it to a fresh iTunes install, which is the incorrect way to do things. tl;dr: iTunes is an awful UI hack on top of an awful sql hack, news at 11.
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I have copied my iTunes folder a half-dozen times across 3 computers, moving from Windows to OSX in the middle, and have never had any problems with it being "fragile". I have copied my wife's iTunes folder across 3 computers as well, moving from Windows to OSX in the middle, and have never had any problems with it being "fragile". In all cases, I moved the iTunes folder, ran iTunes, and told it to point to the new folder. No problems at all. 
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Jul 22, 2014 22:56
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iTunes thread is that-a-way nerds! (It's me. I'm the guy that originally brought up iTunes and started this derail. Forgive me for my sins.) EDIT: For actual content... They've changed the way that album view works and I think it's more visually appealing than the way it worked before. Basically now they take the whole album art and just apply a huge gently caress-off gaussian blur to the entire thing and use that as the background. Works nicer than the lame edge detect thing they were using from before. 
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Jul 22, 2014 23:09
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Tippis posted:tl;dr: iTunes is an awful UI hack on top of an awful sql hack, news at 11.
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Jul 22, 2014 23:23
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benisntfunny posted:Will they also cover the story about how you're a dumb gently caress because then I can't wait to watch! No, but there is this neat story about a mass-outbreak of projection that you should probably pay attention to.
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Jul 22, 2014 23:36
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For the next macbooks they should make the apple logo be the rainbow edition instead of boring white. I googled rainbow apple sticker, it looks like you can buy one, yay! e: I also found a woman who opened the screen to put a rainbow sticker underneath the back  edit 2: I should probably post this in the hardware thread... Selklubber fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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Jul 22, 2014 23:45
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Tippis posted:Yes there is. No there isn't. I copied my entire iTunes folder from my Windows PC to an external drive and then I dropped it from the external into the ~/Music directory on my new Mac. I then ran iTunes on the Mac and all was good. I didn't even have to re-sync my iPhone.
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Jul 23, 2014 03:28
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Maybe everyone else here missed the part where he said that none of the music is actually located inside of the iTunes folder, and is just strewn across his drive at random. In which case, good luck getting the itl file to match up with it when moving it to another machine, short of just mirroring the entire drive.
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kode54 posted:Maybe everyone else here missed the part where he said that none of the music is actually located inside of the iTunes folder, and is just strewn across his drive at random. In which case, good luck getting the itl file to match up with it when moving it to another machine, short of just mirroring the entire drive. it's not even that bad. The media files aren't really “strewn about" but all sit nicely organised in a single directory structure managed by iTunes itself. But yes, the entire problem comes from that structure not existing outside of the iTunes folder on a separate volume. The head scratcher lies with the fact that iTunes itself suggests this separation between db and files, but then fails to account for some very obvious scenarios this gives rise to. And above all, you can no longer simply move the directory of you want to migrate the library. But anyway, as mentioned, the iTunes threads is somewhere else — this was mainly a question of whether the version bundled with Yosemite had done away with this inconsistent behaviour. Tippis fucked around with this message at 10:09 on Jul 23, 2014 |
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Jul 23, 2014 09:00
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Tippis posted:it's not even that bad. The media files aren't really “strewn about" but all sit nicely organised in a single directory structure managed by iTunes itself. But yes, the entire problem comes from that structure not existing outside of the iTunes folder on a separate volume. The head scratcher lies with the fact that iTunes itself suggests this separation between db and files, but then fails to account for some very obvious scenarios this gives rise to. And above all, you can no longer simply move the directory of you want to migrate the library. Yes. Apple has simply just overlooked the ability to move your library. Sons of bitches. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1449
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Jul 23, 2014 11:08
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benisntfunny posted:Yes. Apple has simply just overlooked the ability to move your library. Sons of bitches. You really do have a reading problem, don't you? Like I said, brittle and does not account for some very obvious scenarios.
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Jul 23, 2014 11:30
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Serious Hardware / Software Crap › Mac OS X and Mac Software - Mostly just iTunes Library talk
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Jul 23, 2014 11:39
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The Yosemite public beta starts tomorrow. Sign up if you're interested: https://appleseed.apple.com/sp/betaprogram A ton of previews went up today to coincide with the announcement. Here are just a few: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/07/preview-a-closer-look-at-os-x-yosemite-just-in-time-for-the-public-beta/ http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/23/5927947/mac-os-x-10-10-yosemite-preview http://www.engadget.com/2014/07/23/os-x-yosemite-preview/
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Jul 23, 2014 16:18
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Textual will be free on the Mac App Store on July 23rd. It's also when the beta begins for their next major release. It's my favorite IRC client for OS X and was the first thing I purchased when the MAS opened.
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Jul 23, 2014 17:12
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Reminder that today is that day! 
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Jul 23, 2014 17:37
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TACD posted:I don't use IRC much but I'll give it a go to see how it stacks up vs Limechat, thanks
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Jul 23, 2014 17:42
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:The Yosemite public beta starts tomorrow. Sign up if you're interested: Do these typically require a flatten & reinstall when the full version comes out?
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Jul 23, 2014 21:19
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The Milkman posted:Do these typically require a flatten & reinstall when the full version comes out? Because it's public though, I expect they'll try to make the testing and upgrade process as seamless as possible and make it possible to update to the GM. Make no assumptions though and have your backups ready.
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They have said you will be able to update the public betas all the way through to and including the final release.
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Tippis posted:You really do have a reading problem, don't you? Like I said, brittle and does not account for some very obvious scenarios. Pivo posted:Serious Hardware / Software Crap › Mac OS X and Mac Software - Mostly just iTunes Library talk I haven't really been reading the posts, but Tippis, if you need help I made an iTunes thread over here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3022963 I really need to update the OP, but I might as well wait until 12 comes out. But I say that all the time about updating the OP.
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Jul 23, 2014 23:34
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Regarding IRC clients, it would be really great to have something more like Slack, where I connect to a server that's stored the the conversation or whatever of the channel. That way, I can have one user from all my devices, and also not miss stuff just because my home Internet connection decided to poo poo itself (or, you know, I finally get a laptop and take it someplace else). VVV  I had no idea there was such a thing.
Axiem fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Jul 24, 2014 |
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Jul 23, 2014 23:50
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You're describing an IRC bouncer and plenty of IRC clients support it.
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ZNC is one of the popular IRC bouncers, and supports limited backlog sending on new client connections. Alternately, you could try Quassel or Smuxi, if you have a machine to run those on as long as you want the connection up, and can expose a port to connect in from your client devices. Both of these are full clients that are split between a core module that handles all the IRC server interaction and logging, and a client application that provides the pretty interface to it. Of course, both of these use app specific interfaces, so they can only be viewed with their own client software, be it desktop or mobile. As I said above, WeeChat and Glowing Bear also provide a similar experience. Glowing Bear is also available on the Google Play store, if you put in the right search phrases to find it. Plugging in Glowing Bear finds 250 apps, adding "irc" to the search narrows it down so the correct app is #10 in the search results. This one can be configured to proxy regular IRC protocol for a desktop or mobile client, but Glowing Bear is somewhat more powerful, since you can also command it to go back and retrieve even more backlog, and it handles server side scripting and unread and highlight message tracking. Bit of a pain to set up any of those, though. Pick one, I can help with any of them. Or all of them.
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I'm going with one of the free ZNC servers for now, although I'm having trouble connecting it to synirc--though some of it is that I'm trying to figure out how to use Textual while I'm trying to figure out how to use ZNC. I'm a sucker for punishment.
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Axiem posted:I'm going with one of the free ZNC servers for now, although I'm having trouble connecting it to synirc--though some of it is that I'm trying to figure out how to use Textual while I'm trying to figure out how to use ZNC. I'm a sucker for punishment. Alot of people I know run ZNC on the free tier from Amazon EC2, I have the $14 a year VPS through https://securedragon.net/ but you can also run it on the $10 a year one. I'm not affiliated with them in anyway I just use a couple of VPS's from them and for $10 a year they have been really great. ZNC is also really easy to setup on your own. Some networks block free providers or limit the connections so it's nice to have your own static IP.
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I run my ZNC on the lowest tier digital ocean VM for $5 a month. It works well with Textual.
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If you have a desktop computer at home that's always on, you can just run irssi and use dynamic DNS and just ssh into it and screen it, no bouncer required... I always thought bouncers were a little too much work for little benefit because realistically you're only going to be accessing your poo poo from one place at a time, but I guess if you want to use Textual it's the best option. I just use two nicks, one with Textual the other with irssi, then everyone in the chan knows I'm not at home if I'm chatting from my alt nick.
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crazysim posted:I run my ZNC on the lowest tier digital ocean VM for $5 a month. It works well with Textual. My plan eventually would be to do my own ZNC server, I just don't have the dedicated hosting at the moment and can't convince my wife to open the purse strings. So I'll stick with a free one, see how it works out--if it ends up that I don't actually use IRC anymore, then it becomes a moot point anyway.
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Jul 24, 2014 02:42
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Reminder that today is that day! Doesn't appear to be free... it appears to be $4.99
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Djimi posted:Doesn't appear to be free... it appears to be $4.99 If you really want it for free you can compile it from source if you have Xcode, it's open source. Today is their birthday, I just assumed SWSP wasn't bullshitting about it being free today, but to be honest I see the same $4.99 you do.
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Jul 24, 2014 04:38
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Appshopper still lists it as free. http://appshopper.com/mac/social-networking/textual-irc-client
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Djimi posted:Doesn't appear to be free... it appears to be $4.99
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Yeah, I grabbed it for free earlier today.
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Just pay the five dollars it's worth it.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Then you missed it. It was free this morning when I posted that. Mad Wack posted:Just pay the five dollars it's worth it.
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Djimi posted:So trying to download something listed as 'free' for that day and being in the same time zone as Apple Inc., doesn't in fact mean anything? Does that mean people in Honolulu had to it purchase it by 5:00 p.m. or something in the afternoon? Do online 'App' stores need to close down before the end of the day, lest all the transistors on silicon get tired? I know how to tell time. I purposely waited until I got home (on my own time, not at work, to download it). But go on, please defend Apple, as you're wont to do — I suppose I'm the idiot for thinking that a day meant 24 hours. edit:  Sorry you missed out. Star War Sex Parrot fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Jul 24, 2014 |
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Djimi posted:But go on, please defend Apple, as you're wont to do — I suppose I'm the idiot You got that second part right, on account of calling people biased.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Reminder that today is that day! Enjoyed this also: 
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The Milkman posted:Do these typically require a flatten & reinstall when the full version comes out? if you aren't running time machine backups of your data already do not upgrade to beta if you aren't ok with reformatting your mac entirely and booting off a rescue usb stick do not upgrade to beta if you aren't ok with total data loss, do not upgrade to beta etc etc reformat + new install won't hurt, and I usually end up doing it since my data is backed up in time machine and various cloud storage services anyway
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Djimi posted:So trying to download something listed as 'free' for that day and being in the same time zone as Apple Inc., doesn't in fact mean anything? Does that mean people in Honolulu had to it purchase it by 5:00 p.m. or something in the afternoon? Do online 'App' stores need to close down before the end of the day, lest all the transistors on silicon get tired? I know how to tell time. I purposely waited until I got home (on my own time, not at work, to download it). But go on, please defend Apple, as you're wont to do — I suppose I'm the idiot for thinking that a day meant 24 hours. The developer sets the price of their apps whenever they want. What does Apple have to do with this at all? This wasn't an Apple promotion.
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