Box of Trial posted:

i know a mechanical engineer who is highly regarded professionally yet thinks america needs to abolish the income tax and replace the lost revenue with import tariffs

Glasgow Kiss posted:

Dark enlightenment sounds like some lovely metal band or something

paranoid randroid posted:

im an engineer consitutional originalist who beleives in tough love and simple solutions, and i vote

Gorman Thomas posted:

as an engineer i can safely say that almost all engineers are functionally retarded at anything that isn't math

The Droid posted:

are the dark enlightenment folk the people who sincerely think the Imperium of Man of 40k is a society to be emulated?

Corey Plumper posted:

Tane

The Droid posted:

etalian posted:

not surprisingly people who were bullied and mocked in school naturally have a craving power/chance for revenge against inferior people.

InterceptorV8 posted:

I wonder what kind of drug cocktail one has to be on to come up with this poo poo.

The Droid posted:

given the kind of people who come up with this poo poo, I am assuming there is a lot of adderall abuse at the very least

QUEEN CAUCUS posted:

Who would brag about being related to a guy named Alfred anyway

gently caress the ROW posted:

please rename me to capitalist accumulation

Pick posted:

it's my favorite nightwish album

Fandyien posted:

If we take a closer look at the term "progressivism" we will see the core of our problem. Progress implies movement. It means change. Changing one's goal to something else. When that change is paired with political power, the thing that can actually do it, you will kinda get it.

Since progressivism is a kind of a meme virus which defines itself through its ability to designate a specific socio-cultural/legal norm as "the enemy" and through its ability to destroy them, the existence of progressive ideologies is paradoxical. They feed on the things they kill. When they feed enough, they starve and die. Thus the progressive meme virus must either die or change the goal - effectively mutate, in order to survive. Since "progress" can only go by destroying socio-cultural/legal "norms", and the very same socio-cultural/legal "norms" are the building blocks of civilization, "progress" occurs contrary to the divine principles of discrimination by either diminishing the results of reflective potential of discrimination codified in first legal, then socio-cultural ideas, and then by the resource from where they were made possible - manifesting either as stereotypes or more extremely biological reality. Thus, you can asses how much progressive meme virus is powerful by looking at what kind of discrimination is going after - if it's going against legal discrimination (i.e. blacks can't vote) then it's probably very weak. If it's going against something more intangible (i.e. the feminist "Patriarchy" as concept as stupid as its proponents) then it's probably mutated to its extreme. If we tie in a moralistic sentiment here about somethings that cannot be altered, going by the classical liberal ideas of right to liberty (freedom of association,free speech,free thought...), life, pursuit of happiness - you can use any moral system you like, you can asses the moral value of a progressive virus. If it's attacking one of your core moral values, then it's probably immoral. For example, affirmative action and quotas. If it's a side moral value that serves no purpose in your building blocks of morality, then it's probably not. Example, slavery. (Moldbug defends that the slaves had it better not because slavery was innately good, but because the slave masters were very kind, something that is not intrinsically found in slavery.)

Here on DE we can easily infer that not every progressive meme virus in every incarnation is just. But what we often forget about, or shy away from because progressive machine wrapped it up in poo poo, is that not every incarnation of every socio-cultural norm is just. Some "progress" is good, some is bad. Some "reaction" is good, some is bad. Depends on the circumstances. That's important. Leftist Singularity does not exist, the chaos will wreak havoc on your society before it's achieved. Rightist Singularity, while stable, is a story for another time. What is important to notice is that "progress" is linear, and the amount of it can be assessed from the current incarnation of the particular meme virus (i.e. feminism) or the political ideas as a whole.
Since we established that progress is linear, and some of it is better in certain quantities, it makes sense to build a civilization with retaining some parts of progressivism. Consider the following : *"Progress" first was from Aristocracy to the Right, Nationalism to the Left. Power to the French people, not to the French king. Effectively speaking, nationalism was the first progressivism. Ethno-nationalist trads and other mouthful words are just thinly veiled nationalists who use the current ideas of HBD and anti-progressivism to go back to the time when it dominated. * Now, not only is Nationalism the Right, it's also the Hitler.

Since progress has gone so far, it alienated some of the more moderately progressives like libertarians and similar. Hence the reason why they are often included here. Some liberals take it as insult when compared with "muh soggy knee" luhberals and find their place here, since the mouthbreathing Machiavellians who dream of Silicon Reich tend to be more open minded than the people who vilify them. You belong to the paleoconservative or paleoliberal (classical liberal?) spectrum who progress left behind. Technically speaking, you're not a progressive anymore. Also, radishmag has interesting take on "large government is a weak government" idea, so check that out when you can.

echronorian posted:

If you think about it Slavery was actually better for white people

The Droid posted:

Justine Tunney is bad at speaking figuratively. "If you threw me under a passing large vehicle, such as a bus, in a sudden attempt to screw me over, I would blow it up, killing the innocent and probably oblivious driver and passengers."

Also the intent of her statement comes across as pretty juvenile.

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Robo Reagan posted:

wow a shut in tech nerd with no understanding of the consequences of doing bad poo poo irl i'm shocked

ripped0ff posted:

it's also pretty hilarious that OWS's problems with tunney and tunney's use of OWS resources would actually be solved by incorporating OWS

it's the ultimate irony, the only way to take their assets out of the hands of an individual and manage them collectively is through the legal fiction of corporate personhood

lol owned

Bitter Mushroom posted: