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I dunno about the premium model for SBFs it would be weird to have content only for THE REAL FANs when they already get ad revenue. Id probably subscribe to it anyway if it was offered but it would be weird for them. They could probably have a crazy $500 tier and still have people subscribe going by their mailbag.
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Kaptain K posted:Matt I don't know how popular this idea will be so I'm just speaking for myself here. I think Woolie might possibly die if you try to tack on any more podcast work to what they already do. Either that or he'll just be some lone hermit constantly tinkering on casts... like Forge. Don't do that to him. Nobody wants Forge.
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Jul 23, 2014 19:43
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I haven't a clue what they could implement as a subscription thing that wouldn't either take away content from everyone else or exhaust the guys from the extra workload. Wallpapers from their art pals? Ad-free HD downloads of videos? A 12-month calendar of Zach wearing silly hats?
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Jul 23, 2014 20:09
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I'm pretty sure that most people would be okay with just ad-free. I think it's mostly as a way to give them donations with them feeling as un-scummy as possible.
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Jul 23, 2014 20:14
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Calendars with Zach in silly hats or bust. 
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Jul 24, 2014 03:03
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Maybe this is the point where the Zaibatsu needs to grow past just the 4 if more content is gonna get produced. Because from what's been said, their workload is just about peak. Y'know, unless they're cool with the amount of content they're doing. I'm not gonna judge.
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pulp rag posted:Maybe this is the point where the Zaibatsu needs to grow past just the 4 if more content is gonna get produced. Because from what's been said, their workload is just about peak. Y'know, unless they're cool with the amount of content they're doing. I'm sorry, do you demand more than two 30 minute videos a day, a weekly 3 hour podcast, specials, month themes, and site upkeep? what more can you need?!
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Jul 24, 2014 15:38
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Al-Saqr posted:I'm sorry, do you demand more than two 30 minute videos a day, a weekly 3 hour podcast, specials, month themes, and site upkeep? what more can you need?! A way to give them money for content.
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Jul 24, 2014 16:47
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Al-Saqr posted:I'm sorry, do you demand more than two 30 minute videos a day, a weekly 3 hour podcast, specials, month themes, and site upkeep? what more can you need?! Yeah, I think they output enough content as it is. Making videos is fun and all, but don't forget that they're normal people with real-life things to deal with too. If they keep overloading themselves, I think they would get burned out to the point where its not fun anymore for anyone and the whole thing grinds to a halt.
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Jul 24, 2014 17:25
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But that's what I'm saying. I'm super cool with their content output right now, but since people (me included) wanna give them more money for even more content, it's at the point where they're gonna have to hire people on to do the back-end stuff to do that. Because right now, like I said, the Zaibatsu is at content-maximum. It's why I said if the Zaibatsu is cool with their position and amount of output, I'm not gonna judge. It's Matt's, Pat's, Woolie's, and Liam's decision if they're happy with the income they're getting and content they're putting out. But the reality for people like me who would love to do a subscription or premium membership for more content is that it's probably not gonna happen for a long while unless people get hired on to either work in the background or become part of the main Zaibatsu. I just think people misunderstood what I was saying. To sum it up is: if we want to see an increase in the amount of TBF content in almost any fashion, people will probably have to be hired on to do stuff.
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Jul 24, 2014 18:00
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This is why they should hire Jontron
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pulp rag posted:But that's what I'm saying. I'm super cool with their content output right now, but since people (me included) wanna give them more money for even more content, it's at the point where they're gonna have to hire people on to do the back-end stuff to do that. Because right now, like I said, the Zaibatsu is at content-maximum. never post again
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Jul 24, 2014 18:07
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roach cum puddle posted:A way to give them money for content. Celebrate friend, for I bring you what you desire. http://sharkrobot.com/collections/two-best-friends-play
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Jul 24, 2014 18:33
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Yea I'm not sure why people are all "I WANT TO GIVE THEM MONEY BUT DON'T KNOW HOW" you know they end every video with 'hey here's a store link' right?
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Jul 24, 2014 18:47
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Right now the Best Friends definitely put out more videos than I can watch per week but just for me personally I have much more time to listen to a podcast than watching a video. If it was up to me I would add just a premium layer onto the podcast but not the videos. edit: I never miss Friday Night Fisticuffs though because that intro just gets me in the mood. Kaptain K fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Jul 24, 2014 |
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Jul 24, 2014 20:04
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That's funny, it's way the other way around for me. I can't find the time to have 2+ hours of audio in my ears but two 20/30 minute videos every day is exactly enough for me without being overboard.
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Jul 24, 2014 21:16
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My stance is, I don't wear any type of shirts they sell. I don't hang posters on my wall that they sell. What else do they sell? Nothing except the idea of them doing premium content. I want to give these fools money, and the only way I want to give them money is through some type of premium website membership. How do they do premium $ $ $ $ you ask? That is the question. That is the question. That is the question. roach cum puddle fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Jul 24, 2014 |
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Jul 24, 2014 21:23
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roach cum puddle posted:My stance is, I don't wear any type of shirts they sell. I don't hang posters on my wall that they sell. Hold on I just had an intense brainstorming sesh and check it out I think I've solved it: they just put a donate button on their website.
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Jul 24, 2014 21:50
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straight jerkers posted:Hold on I just had an intense brainstorming sesh and check it out I think I've solved it: they just put a donate button on their website. I'd be down for that.
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straight jerkers posted:Hold on I just had an intense brainstorming sesh and check it out I think I've solved it: they just put a donate button on their website. edit: I understand the counterpart of being like "Well just give them loving money for nothing!!!! (edit: not that it''s for nothing. they've given me multiple hours of happiness. I'd love to have a donation button, but what I'd love for more is them having an ~exclusive option for a fixed rate every month~" Why is that a terrible thing to ask? Why is asking for a basic membership the same as "YO JUST loving HAVE THEM CREATE A DONATION BUTTON AND YOUR JMONEY WILL GO WHERE YOUR JMONEY WILL GO:!!!! " roach cum puddle fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Jul 24, 2014 |
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Jul 24, 2014 21:55
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Beef Waifu posted:Celebrate friend, for I bring you what you desire. But where are the action figures?
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roach cum puddle posted:edit: I understand the counterpart of being like "Well just give them loving money for nothing!!!! If they really wanted to they could probably just set up a Patreon Campaign or something.
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Jul 24, 2014 22:29
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This is a seriously loving dumb discussion
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Improbable Lobster posted:This is a seriously loving dumb discussion Problem solving how we can give money to a free product is a "seriously loving dumb discussion" ??? Are you a fan of these guys?
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Jul 24, 2014 22:42
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Who gives a poo poo, buy some shirts. Actual discussion: I beat Murdered: Soul Suspect and Pat freaking out at the unlocked police door is my new favorite thing.
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BrownThunder posted:Who gives a poo poo, buy some shirts. Because I don't want to pay for fabric that I'd throw away the second I received it. I'd rather pay for a simple membership of "hey there's ads on our videos we can take those off for you"
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Jul 24, 2014 22:48
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Please don't goon away the content creator!
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Rodyle posted:Please don't goon away the content creator! Goon away the content creator by trying to figure out how they can make money off of their product? I hate to respond so quickly but you guys act like us (as consumers) trying to find out how they (as content prodivers) can make money off of all this poo poo they give us is a sacrilege topic. Why can't we just talk in a civil manner about how we give money to these loving dudes who just started a new website that will eventually bring them money but they don't know how yet?
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roach cum puddle posted:Problem solving how we can give money to a free product is a You type like an idiot. Please stop using your enter key. They already have multiple avenues of revenue that you could use.
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Jul 24, 2014 22:54
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roach cum puddle posted:Goon away the content creator by trying to figure out how they can make money off of their product? You're right. They just made the websites for fun and have no plans at all. Did you send them the anime blu-ray set?
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All I want to do is figure out a way that I can send these fools money without having to buy their merchandise (because I am really not a fan of any item they sell in their store). Why are you guys so against this? Like, there's so much anger for discussing a premium plan. Why???? Why are you guys so against premium membership for content? edit: I want to pay for their content, not their merchandise. e2: I apologize that I use a method of communication which is easier on the eyes than block paragraphs. It's honestly cute to see fans of something be mad at other fans of the same thing who just want to figure out a way to shell out money to the people they're fans of without having to buy their merchandise.
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roach cum puddle posted:All I want to do is figure out a way that I can send these fools money without having to buy their merchandise (because I am really not a fan of any item they sell in their store). Why are you guys so against this? Like, there's so much anger for discussing a premium plan. Why???? Why are you guys so against premium membership for content? edit: I want to pay for their content, not their merchandise. e2: I apologize that I use a method of communication which is easier on the eyes than block paragraphs. That's hardly a 'block paragraph', stop typing like an rear end in a top hat. Are you high? At least when you were posting poo poo like this: quote:Hey Matt!
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Veotax posted:That's hardly a 'block paragraph', stop typing like an rear end in a top hat. Are you high? At least when you were posting poo poo like this: You definitely won this conversation of premium membership! e: PS it is officially confirmed that I'm a huge fan of speed and I'm also a huge fan of Pat and since I just started listening to the podcast I had no idea that the joke of "pat takes amphetamines" is all a big joke on me! VVV : I apologize I make my posts easy on the eyes. roach cum puddle fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Jul 24, 2014 |
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Jul 24, 2014 23:10
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I wasn't arguing about theoretical premium content, I was saying you type like an idiot.
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THIS IS ALL SO DUMB Why can't we just talk as a fangroup of people who are fans of the same niche thing about how we can give money to the thing that brings us joy besides just paying for their merchandise. I honestly want someone to answer (and not in a lovely Youtube Sarcastic Way) why this idea of premium membership is so terrible.
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Because most of us have given them money for shirts and stickers and poo poo because, spoiler, while the shirts are neat we're mainly saying 'hey thank you for making videos we love, oh a shirt that's nice too', and then even then when we said 'well then maybe they should add a donate button' you met it with "WELL BUT NO THAT'S NOTHING" and we kinda don't know what else to say. You realize maintaining a 'premium' kinda thing is actually a bit of work right? Like it won't kill them but it actually is a bit labor intensive on top of content making on top of real rear end lives. The only youtuber who wasn't an actual professional type I've seen do it is VGA which is literally just a 'hey if you wanna throw us some money we'll whitelist you in minecraft and add you for PSN and poo poo and you can talk in the Twitch stream' checkbox thing.
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roach cum puddle posted:VVV : I apologize I make my posts easy on the eyes. Also, nope.
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roach cum puddle posted:THIS IS ALL SO DUMB I don't have nearly enough time to consume all the boys' content they put out each week and it's very obvious they do a fuckload of work behind the scenes with all the plates they're spinning at a time and as a result their output RPMs are pretty much in the red most of the time to keep to their schedule. Remember why they cancelled the mailbag? You sound entitled as gently caress.
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beep by grandpa posted:I don't have nearly enough time to consume all the boys' content they put out each week and it's very obvious they do a fuckload of work behind the scenes with all the plates they're juggling at a time and as a result their output RPMs are pretty much in the red most of the time. Remember why they cancelled the mailbag? You sound entitled as gently caress. I sound entitled because I'm asking a group of people "Hey let me give you money to take ads off your videos"? E: My whole point of this "argument" is that I want to give them money to take ads off of their videos. Is that such a monumental business plan to ask of them? roach cum puddle fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Jul 25, 2014 |
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