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Rumda posted:Great holy war spoils like all crusades go to who ever contributed the most. Or to the holder of the kingdom title if it is of the right religion. But I did all the fighting myself. No-one else got involved in the war. I invited the nephew to join but he stayed out of it. I guess the Kingdom title somehow defaulted to him then?
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Wafflecopper posted:But I did all the fighting myself. No-one else got involved in the war. I invited the nephew to join but he stayed out of it. I guess the Kingdom title somehow defaulted to him then? Im not 100% sure, but if it is like crusades, the titles will go for whoever had a claim on it and were part of the war (even if he barely did any fighting at all).
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If you have a save from during the Great Holy War, you can open the Great Holy War panel in the upper left and it will tell you exactly who gains the title if it is successful.
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Jul 25, 2014 12:48
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Tomn posted:Well, that makes sense as far as the casualties go. But why am I still winning battles so handily, then? The baffling part to me isn't really the casualty breakdown, it's the fact that DESPITE massive casualties my pike-and-crossbow flanks seem to have nigh-invincible morale, allowing them to break the enemy and make good any casualties taken during melee via pursuit.
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ninjahedgehog posted:Yeah, I once landed my heir and he named all three of his sons Almerich. He also picked up Arbitrary somehow, but the names were the real crime. Yeah. And they often marry poorly or to those awful looking norse portraits.
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Captain Novolin posted:Speaking of retinues, what's the best way to use longbows? I've been doing 3-1 longbows to shock, but I still get hit by the undefended flank tactic now and then and it's nearly cost me a couple major wars so far. Okay, so I'm not sure about the math here, but I've been using longbows as kind of hilarious glass cannons. Only longbows, English or Welsh commanders on ever flank, only attack when you overwhelmingly outnumber them. If you pick your fights you can do enough damage to flat out demolish the enemy army in the skirmish phase, which leads to things like the enemy loosing nine thousand men to your sixteen. Oh course again, you need to be carefully and micromanage your stacks so you don't get caught by an enemy doomstack until you're ready. Again, "have numerical advantage" is such an obvious tactic, but it's a lot of fun with longbows and not unreasonable to achieve since they are so cheap. The lack of losses from murdering your enemies so quickly also means your armies don't take a lot of uh, "battle attrition." Not sure what to call it... losses to a stack overtime from battles, not from regular supply limits and attrition and the like. For example, you can take one doomstack of archers and just walk through a series of OPMs better than any other retinue, since you'll be taking less losses from wars other people would have won anyway. ToxicSlurpee posted:I actually really like pikes as Italians for just that reason. You can murder the hell out of them but they just stand there and go "gently caress you" while your morale withers away. I started a Venice game to learn the republic mechanics and holy gently caress are pikeman fun. I had a force of 1.5k sieging down a port in Croatia get dogpiled by an Italian army that came out of nowhere and was close to five times it's size. I was seriously close to rage-quitting, when I noticed I had somehow won the battle. My stack was nearly destroyed but just diligent reinforced until the siege was done like a decade later. (Hyperbole, but their offence is a weakness.) Still weird and fun and a totally different style of play than I've been used to (massed Longbows or Cataphracts or HI.) Do the Scots get the same kind of bonus, or do they use their pikemen differently? Digital Osmosis fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Jul 25, 2014 |
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Jul 25, 2014 15:22
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Any ancient-ancient near east mods? I've got a hankering for a mitanni chariot retinue
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Jul 25, 2014 18:26
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de jure drift question. I'm the king of Egypt and Arabia, and I need to give one of them away because I'm also the Emperor of Arabia running elective (so I'm at -30 for elector titles). I'm also the Duke of Medina, holding the two most valuable counties. Unfortunately, Medina drifted into Egypt before I got here. So, if I give away Egypt I'll have a two county, one duchy malus with that king. If I give away Arabia, I'll have a one county malus with that king because I also hold Tigris (and potentially a duchy since I've avoided creating the Duchy of Tigris). Is there a way I can rejigger these titles to start the process of drifting Medina back into Arabia? That would let me give away Egypt without issue.
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Bitter Mushroom posted:Any ancient-ancient near east mods? I've got a hankering for a mitanni chariot retinue It isn't really Ancient Era and I haven't checked that there are actually chariot retinues but I get the impression that this is exactly the sort of hankering Lux Invicta exists to fill.
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There is Diadochi Kings, but afaik that's as far back as it goes.
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Alikchi posted:There is Diadochi Kings, but afaik that's as far back as it goes. There's an Ancient Kings mod and a Pharohs and Counsels mod being designed on ModDB and someone is looking to make a Bronze Age collapse mod on the PDX forums as well.
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Captain Novolin posted:Speaking of retinues, what's the best way to use longbows? I've been doing 3-1 longbows to shock, but I still get hit by the undefended flank tactic now and then and it's nearly cost me a couple major wars so far. Digital Osmosis posted:I started a Venice game to learn the republic mechanics and holy gently caress are pikeman fun. I had a force of 1.5k sieging down a port in Croatia get dogpiled by an Italian army that came out of nowhere and was close to five times it's size. I was seriously close to rage-quitting, when I noticed I had somehow won the battle. My stack was nearly destroyed but just diligent reinforced until the siege was done like a decade later. (Hyperbole, but their offence is a weakness.) Still weird and fun and a totally different style of play than I've been used to (massed Longbows or Cataphracts or HI.) Do the Scots get the same kind of bonus, or do they use their pikemen differently? Linking my writeup on retinues from a few weeks back: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3551718&pagenumber=613&perpage=40#post431940995 lurksion fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Jul 25, 2014 |
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So I'm in a pretty peculiar situation. As a Norse Jarl I managed to collect roughly half of the counties and jarledoms required for Sweden. The only person who comes close is the current Queen (who happens to be a complete badass). Long story short the past 60 years had been about cleverly sitting myself on the throne of what is now Sweden. And I'm currently married to the Queen and we have several sons who I can't kill because they are not in my court, they're in hers. So I have the bright idea of turning catholic to reduce the amount of titles that get distributed to my many sons.  My wife the queen is probably the most aggressive AI I have ever seen.  Note the fate of her two sisters. And father. She had literally nothing and expanded very aggresively early and all on her own took most of the prussia region. A small mercy after turning catholic my third youngest son came to my court. I immediately made him my heir since it was set to my mongoloid sister and began to think of way to off my sons until finally my wife had her primary going to the heir I actually educated and orchestrated a decent marriage for. I'm still somewhat of a newbie (obviously since I made a blunder of the religion swap) so I'm willing to take ideas on how best to proceed. edit:  Just because it may be worth noting how even the power divide is.
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Jul 26, 2014 03:39
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:There's an Ancient Kings mod and a Pharohs and Counsels mod being designed on ModDB and someone is looking to make a Bronze Age collapse mod on the PDX forums as well. How would you make a Bronze Age Collapse setting? The most notable thing about the period is that one way or another everyone died and almost no records survived.
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Invasion stacks spawning on the provinces bordering the Mediterranean, and any land they take gets broken up by event into separate counties over time? Honestly doesn't sound very fun, but to each their own.
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Urgh, the latest beta patch isnt too stable. Sound cuts out and inputs fail every so often, requiring an alt-f4.
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Just noticed this on the Paradox forums:  https://www.g2a.com/crusader-kings-2-dark-ages-global.html Might get removed soon, but here's a link to the shop page, and proof it's not just someone's photoshopped image.
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AdjectiveNoun posted:Just noticed this on the Paradox forums: Somebody in that thread pointed out, in Poland, the first Crusader Kings was called 'Dark Ages,' and Crusader Kings 2 had 'Dark Ages' as it's subtitle. I mean, maybe that's the next expansion, but the evidence seems pretty thin right now, I don't think anybody can say just yet.
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So yesterday I learned the potential downside of making a matrilineal marriage to the heir of another kingdom. I married a daughter the King of England's son and somehow the AI accepted it as matrilineal (I always tick the box just to see). THey had a son, who became king. My ruler died unexpectedly but luckily his wife was a regular baby factory and he had an heir, a genius one no less, but he was still a child. As soon as the child heir took the throne that rear end in a top hat relative of mine tried to press his claim on the throne of Ireland. It took my army plus two mercenary companies to shatter him but I won. What a jerk.
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catlord posted:Somebody in that thread pointed out, in Poland, the first Crusader Kings was called 'Dark Ages,' and Crusader Kings 2 had 'Dark Ages' as it's subtitle. I mean, maybe that's the next expansion, but the evidence seems pretty thin right now, I don't think anybody can say just yet. Oh. That's totally reasonable, but I just got so excited over an official Dark Ages DLC I rushed to post this here without checking the rest of the thread. 
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AdjectiveNoun posted:Oh. That's totally reasonable, but I just got so excited over an official Dark Ages DLC I rushed to post this here without checking the rest of the thread. We had that already, it's called The Old Gods. I don't think they are going down that road again.
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Yeah, that's clearly the Polish vanilla game box. The subtitle thing is also true. It all goes back to the fact that back in the day EU I and II were very popular in Poland, but the company making them was completely unknown, so the Polish publisher changed the title of Crusader Kings and Hearts of Iron into "Europa Universalis: Mroczne Wieki" ("Europa Universalis: the Dark Ages") and "Europa Universalis: II Wojna Swiatowa" ("II World War"). The policy was dropped later on.
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Hey what gives! I've conquered Rome, yet the Pope still says he's reigining in Rome despite my Godis moving in.
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SynthOrange posted:Hey what gives! I've conquered Rome, yet the Pope still says he's reigining in Rome despite my Godis moving in. That means he is currently unlanded and in "Pope-dimension". So the game defaults to "reigning in Rome".
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By the time CK3 comes out I'll have probably spent well over a hundred bucks on this game, even with sales. I want CK3 to either be at least as feature-complete as CK2, or premiere an engine with AI that isn't more depressing than Marvin the android or won't poo poo itself every time Byzantium raises its levies (thought that last part might just be me, though my laptop is pretty beastly).
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This game is going pretty well. Accomplished several goals I had set out. Multicultural Reformed Norse Scandinavia, done. Established several strong outposts in the Mediterranean? Done. Smashed Rome to bits? Done too. Still have to take out those loving Karlings though. They're a right pain in the rear end and never fight each other long enough for me to get anywhere tearing bits out of them.
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I started my first Raja game yesterday, I choose that budhist kingdom in Sri-Lanka and used the ruler designer. Game starts, I marry the only woman available of my religion (lowborn) and wait for a son. My only two neighbours are hindu dukes, I have no CB on then. I put my diplomat to fabricate a claim on one of then. Fast forward 5 years: still no son (or daughters), and still no CB. And absolutely nothing is happening, there is nothing I can do but to keep waiting. I quit out of boredom. Am I missing something? Where are the cool things I can do as a raja? Did I pick the worst possible starting place? Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Jul 26, 2014 |
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Elias_Maluco posted:I started my first Raja game yesterday, I choose that budhist kingdom in Sri-Lanka and used the ruler designer. Welcome to India. If you want to play as a Buddhist, I'd honestly recommend playing as Bengal instead, as they start with CB on some nearby counties that you can mess around with while you wait for the 500 piety needed for subjugation wars.
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Elias_Maluco posted:Game starts, I marry the only woman available of my religion (lowborn) and wait for a son. It's kinda hilarious how incredibly few women there are in India in the Old Gods start. I guess game designers working in Sweden have a hard time finding historical information about the less important women of early medieval India, but given how India is a massive sausage-fest right now couldn't they have just made some up?
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Tomn posted:It's kinda hilarious how incredibly few women there are in India in the Old Gods start. I guess game designers working in Sweden have a hard time finding historical information about the less important women of early medieval India, but given how India is a massive sausage-fest right now couldn't they have just made some up? Yeah, Ive restarted twice and everytime and in both times there was 1 woman available. I guess I will give up on Buddhists and instead try one of those Hindus to the west, close to the muslins. Ive hope there's more going on there.
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DrSunshine posted:You can't just "present debutante"? I guess I forgot about that option again. EDIT: anyway, trying something different now: Ive started as the hindu independant count of Kasmira, bordering Afghanistan and some big hindu kingdom. Can anyone give me some starting tips? Seems like I have a big chance of being attacked by Afghanistan really soon. Perhaps I should swear to the big hindu kingdom? Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Jul 26, 2014 |
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Speaking of India, I started a game there to get all them sweet achievements. Basically I have to do a world conquest, and everything is going pretty well. Only issue is handing out land. Usually when I give out land I do no ruler/no great house so as to not mix things up and lose the weird but semi pretty borders I've created. Problem is, due to the caste system or something else only 1/4 of the people that show up can be landed. The gurus are easy to pick out, but outside of that it is seemingly random as to who can get land and who can't. Thought it was the castes at first but that doesn't seem to be it. Does anyone know what the parameters are for Indians? I'm Hindu if that matters.
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Has anybody got any working strategies for Socotra yet? That seems to still hold the title of "Hardest Start in CKII", other than that weird glitchy instant-death start in Pala where the historical files having the starting ruler 131 years old or something.
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Step 1: Open console. Step 2: Get event troops. Step 3: Go hog wild.
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Murdering your two eldest sons to get a genius first in line might be a bit cruel, but on the other hand: 
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eXXon posted:Murdering your two eldest sons to get a genius first in line might be a bit cruel, but on the other hand: I fail to see the problem with your actions 
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The first one was asking for it by climbing the towers of the castle. Actually it's kind of funny that if you choose the 'teach a lesson option' - which I did, and which got him insta-killed - his death says 'murdered on your orders', but nobody actually gives a poo poo about it, not even his mother.
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eXXon posted:Murdering your two eldest sons to get a genius first in line might be a bit cruel, but on the other hand: I mean, you could of just excommunicated and castrated them.
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cryptoclastic posted:Speaking of India, I started a game there to get all them sweet achievements. Basically I have to do a world conquest, and everything is going pretty well. Only issue is handing out land. Usually when I give out land I do no ruler/no great house so as to not mix things up and lose the weird but semi pretty borders I've created. Problem is, due to the caste system or something else only 1/4 of the people that show up can be landed. The gurus are easy to pick out, but outside of that it is seemingly random as to who can get land and who can't. Thought it was the castes at first but that doesn't seem to be it. Does anyone know what the parameters are for Indians? I'm Hindu if that matters. You're sure it's not the castes? The castes can only take up holdings appropriate to them - Kshatriyas for castle holdings, Brahmins for temples, and Vaishyas for cities, so it's not a matter of "only kshatriyas can hold land" or something like that.
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