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The first iterations of DKH were very Space Hulk influenced, but this one is definitely aimed at Warhammer Quest, with Advanced WHQ packed in under a divider in the box.
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NTRabbit posted:We've been talking about it a while in the Mantic thread, plenty of details about what makes it new here:
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Shadows of Brimstone came under a lot of heat for how they managed their early bird reward tier system, and rightly so, but it looks like they'll be losing a significant amount on each of the pledges. I quite like Flying Frog, but it seems they definitely underestimated productions costs. They did, however, put out a pretty honest discussion of the current state of things Here. One thing I don't understand is why the selling of some advanced copies at GenCon is controversial. I'm waiting for my copy, but I also understand its a business and they need product to show off at one of the biggest gaming conventions. There are some people in the comments who are pissed because the backers will not receive theirs first, despite the fact FFP is still on track to begin shipping things out next month, or at worst one or two months later than expected. I got a discount and ton of additional stuff coming along in the future, and I'm not terribly bothered by other people getting their hands on it before me. Gravy Train Robber fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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Gravy Train Robber posted:One thing I don't understand is why the selling of some advanced copies at GenCon is controversial. I'm waiting for my copy, but I also understand its a business and they need product to show off at one of the biggest gaming conventions. There are some people in the comments who are pissed because the backers will not receive theirs first, despite the fact FFG is still on track to begin shipping things out next month, or at worst one or two months later than expected. I got a discount and ton of additional stuff coming along in the future, and I'm not terribly bothered by other people getting their hands on it before me. I think it's understandable from both perspectives, such that neither can be 100% satisfied. As you said, the business side is the business side. GenCon is a big deal and they need to market. I'm actually somewhat curious how big of an impact on sales GenCon has on a given product, but regardless, it exposes it to a bunch of people with poor impulse control and less than discriminating tastes who will buy anything that looks cool. A win win for all parties involved. However, the Kickstarter backers are the ones who put the initial faith in your project to back it in the first place. They put their money, carried the risk, etc. So when they get their stuff later, usually by weeks if not months, than Joe Schmoe McConventiongoer, I can understand being irate at the decision. In fact, I can be both irate and understanding, as these are not mutually exclusive emotions, especially if the way they communicated the decision is rather unprofessional, like Robin D. Laws' infamous ("infamous"?) post when he did something similar for Hillfolk. A lot of the annoyance can be allayed by someone acting like a professional representing a professional venture, hat in their hand and with honest regret in their words.
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Can we abbreviate Flying Frog Games to something that isn't the traditional abbreviation for Fantasy Flight Games? I know the initials are the same, but it's confusing.
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Jedit posted:Can we abbreviate Flying Frog Games to something that isn't the traditional abbreviation for Fantasy Flight Games? I know the initials are the same, but it's confusing. Agh, sorry. Also, its Flying Frog Productions (I think), so I was not only confusing, but incorrect!
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quote:If you have two, then two people get to watch while everyone else tries to win the game because they'll never be picked until mission 5 and their own teams will be automatically rejected by everyone. Note that this isn't how you should play with Lancelot - in the variant that doesn't suck, the Lancelots are secret. They add a lot to the game, so much so that if you don't have them I'd go ahead and proxy them. (My group has probably played 400 games of Avalon). You should always play with Excalibur, too (and it doesn't require any equipment to play with - the card is just given publicly to someone on the mission). It provides a bunch of entertaining options. I'm not terribly happy about the Kickstarter - I don't like the sci-fi Resistance theme as much as the medieval one - but it's got stuff for an excellent, excellent game.
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jmzero posted:Note that this isn't how you should play with Lancelot - in the variant that doesn't suck, the Lancelots are secret. And as soon as one Lancelot is picked for a mission, the other one claims because Good Lancelot would have to in that situation.
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Another avoidable pitfall in having your game manufactured in China - 404 Law Not Found has experienced another delay, as they requested six 1 piece miniature for their 6 player game, and when the prototypes arrived for approval the factory sent them one miniature in 6 pieces 
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Jul 22, 2014 20:30
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quote:And as soon as one Lancelot is picked for a mission, the other one claims because Good Lancelot would have to in that situation. Again, the Lancelots don't know who each other are in the "good variant"... and even if they did, claiming Blue Lancelot at any time (before round 5) is a very odd move (as your core power is getting onto teams late, as Merlin can't pick you out). In general, there's very few things you "have to" do in Avalon - it is a frickin' nuts game where crazy crap can definitely work. Anyway, I suppose I shouldn't muck up this thread with specific game discussion - basically I just want to reiterate that this "full" version of Resistance is literally (and, for us, unanimously) the best board game we've ever played. We've played like 400 games over the last year or so. You should totally grab this KS if you can get 7 or 8 people to play it (and you don't already have Avalon+promos, which is pretty much what this KS gets you). I can't really speak for the other new modes they're adding, but they sound quite promising too.
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jmzero posted:Note that this isn't how you should play with Lancelot - in the variant that doesn't suck, the Lancelots are secret. They add a lot to the game, so much so that if you don't have them I'd go ahead and proxy them. (My group has probably played 400 games of Avalon). You should always play with Excalibur, too (and it doesn't require any equipment to play with - the card is just given publicly to someone on the mission). It provides a bunch of entertaining options. What are some good deck setups for starter players? I may be playing a few games with newbies soon and have Avalon plus the Excalibur and Lancelot expansion.
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quote:What are some good deck setups for starter players? I may be playing a few games with newbies soon and have Avalon plus the Excalibur and Lancelot expansion. I'd start with Merlin/Percival/Assassin/Morgana + "regular dudes" to fill (and always include Excalibur - it has no impact on balance, it just makes the game funner). It should make for a reasonably balanced setup that emphasizes communication among blues, and still allows for a some crazy gambits with Excalibur and/or Morgana dupes. If you keep playing, you'll likely find this setup will tilt blue too hard (and you'll need to get rid of Percival) but by then you'll know what sort of roles your group likes. If you can get to a group of 7 that have all played before, my favorite setup is to ditch Percival and add in Lady of the Lake + Lancelots + Guinevere (a special blue character that sees the Lancelots before the game, but can be stabbed at the end the same way as Merlin - the Assassin picks the player to stab, and who they think they are). All that said, other groups prefer a lot of very different stuff (some of which doesn't make sense to me, but apparently works for them; this is very much a game that will depend on what your group likes and how they play). Note that you can play all of the Resistance variants with just the base Resistance cards (or playing cards if you want). It's not a game where you really need the components to play at all - but picking up this current Kickstarter means you won't need as much imagination/memory/proxying.
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NTRabbit posted:Another avoidable pitfall in having your game manufactured in China - 404 Law Not Found has experienced another delay, as they requested six 1 piece miniature for their 6 player game, and when the prototypes arrived for approval the factory sent them one miniature in 6 pieces With increased robots and shipping getting more expensive I wonder how much companies actually save by outsourcing to china. I assume the gap is shrinking, but I always wonder by how much. I know the goal of the Bones campaigns was to get manufacturing in the US.
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LordAba posted:With increased robots and shipping getting more expensive I wonder how much companies actually save by outsourcing to china. I assume the gap is shrinking, but I always wonder by how much. I know the goal of the Bones campaigns was to get manufacturing in the US. I think the goal of Bones was less "We'll save money on shipping" and more "We'll have direct control over our entire manufacturing process."
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Jmzero have you considered starting a Resistance thread? Because I really want a Resistance thread discussing different role set ups and things like that. On the Kickstarter from my copy of Province arrived and I can't wait to play it.
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I'm not a big fan of his games, but I know others are, so here is a link to Stefan Feld's KS for Aquasphere. You can get a pack of Aquasphere, Il Vechio, and Rialto for $100 if you want. Note that it is a TMG KS.
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We've got a couple days left on our campaign for storytelling card game The Reunion, where you try to survive a disastrous (or standard) family reunion without blowing your top. It's gone pretty well, we got named a staff pick a couple weeks in, and got a blurb on a BGG roundup that also funneled some folks our way. And that was mostly before we updated the main page with video and some new graphics. We're definitely set up now for to manufacture everything including the stress-o-meters (and the little slider on those is by far the biggest pain in the rear end of anything we have to get made). I'm pretty sure now we'll be able to market the game further over the next year, but this campaign is still the only print run we're guaranteed to be able to do. If exploiting real or imagined family drama for laughs sounds like your sort of thing, then maybe have a look? elentar fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Jul 24, 2014 |
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I'm actually planning on backing that, but was trying to decide between the print-n-play level and the normal set. How many cards are there in all? It doesn't seem to be mentioned on the KS page. Regardless, it looks like fun (friends I've showed it to are excited about it too), and can't wait to have groan-inducing traumatic times playing it.
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90 minutes on Dungeon Lords, for what it's worth. All stretch goals smashed. I've never played it or petz but I don't have any worker placement games so I'm dropping 90 on the strength of Vlaada and previous reviews.
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NmareBfly posted:90 minutes on Dungeon Lords, for what it's worth. All stretch goals smashed. I've never played it or petz but I don't have any worker placement games so I'm dropping 90 on the strength of Vlaada and previous reviews. You probably won't be disappointed. I just wish I was less lazy about ebaying board games, since I probably would have just sold my original Dungeon Lords + expansion, but I guess I'm okay with having a smaller box than everyone else? I dunno.
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elentar posted:We've got a couple days left on our campaign for storytelling card game The Reunion, where you try to survive a disastrous (or standard) family reunion without blowing your top. I jumped in on this! It sounds like fun and my wife's family is prone to drama, so I'm sure she'll get a kick out of it!
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1750773027/water-tiles?ref=discovery This guy is about to make a killing cutting up plastic floor runners and painting the bottom. I really need to get in on this racket, taking advantage of minis gamers with more money than sense. How lazy do you have to be? I mean if you're going to buy terrain, at least have it look good like Germ's.
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GrandpaPants posted:You probably won't be disappointed. I just wish I was less lazy about ebaying board games, since I probably would have just sold my original Dungeon Lords + expansion, but I guess I'm okay with having a smaller box than everyone else? I dunno.
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Zero_Grade posted:I'm actually planning on backing that, but was trying to decide between the print-n-play level and the normal set. How many cards are there in all? It doesn't seem to be mentioned on the KS page. Much obliged! The base deck is 144 cards, with a few blanks for people wanting to add a few personal touches. (For print and play there will be a template for the blanks, plus a template for the stress-o-meters.) Rusty Kettle posted:I jumped in on this! It sounds like fun and my wife's family is prone to drama, so I'm sure she'll get a kick out of it! Thanks!
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signalnoise posted:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1750773027/water-tiles?ref=discovery Ha! I was just in Lowes looking at those the other day - they're fluorescent light covers for drop ceilings. In all fairness, he isn't charging a lot for the pieces. Not everyone has the ability (or at least the knowledge) to properly cut those sheets. It's kind of like an oil change - I can do it myself, but I can pay a bit more to let someone else get all dirty and dispose of the used oil.
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Fate Tokens: metal tokens for Fate games I usually just use poker chips, but these look pretty swank. 
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Sionak posted:Also, for goon-run kickstarters, any word on the Deck of Legends? It's been pretty quiet for a while. It seems the person behind Deck of Legends didn't have a lot of wiggle room in the budget and/or underestimated tax overhead and some problems occurred. That said, at this point I'd be very happy to know that there is some sort of plan to get those finished, even if it's a print-and-play deck.
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signalnoise posted:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1750773027/water-tiles?ref=discovery This guy is about to make a killing cutting up plastic floor runners and painting the bottom. I really need to get in on this racket, taking advantage of minis gamers with more money than sense. How lazy do you have to be? I mean if you're going to buy terrain, at least have it look good like Germ's. To play devil's advocate for a moment: it is pretty basic, but it also looks like an actually achievable Kickstarter that will most likely produce results close to what it initially claims. In a world of over-ambitious stretch goals and failed million-dollar projects, "I'll cut up some plastic and mail it to you" is refreshingly realistic. EDIT: I just watched his video intro, and to his credit, he tells you specifically how to make them yourself. I don't even play tabletop miniature games, and I want to give this give money just for being honest with his minimum-effort Kickstarter project. Goredema fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Jul 24, 2014 |
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I guess that's good. I didn't watch the video, but it's cool that he's honest about it. It really does raise the issue for me though that I could probably come up with some decent terrain out of stuff that isn't resin and sell it. Home Depot is chock full of decent-looking terrain if you have the tools to cut it. Maybe instead of selling complete terrain, I could prepare terrain materials and sell those. It really is tempting.
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Nice looking handcrafted terrain feels like a pretty great niche. Store-bought terrain is kind of expensive but I also don't want to lay down a tarp and get plastic dust or styrofoam everywhere. As long as there are a lot of pictures so you know the sort of thing you'll get and what the style'll be.
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If anyone is interested, Zombicide just posted their new stretch goals - Tony Montana (Scarface) and Walter White. Most of the SGs for this season have been pretty lackluster, but these are some pretty cool goals.
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No Soul Left Behind It's a campaign for the demon fueled supervillian game Better Angels where you're all teachers/students/ect in the same school. There's an actual play of the whole thing on RPPR that's pretty great.
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KimotaBoom posted:No Soul Left Behind Caleb Stokes is a mad genius and the prospect of getting a fully fleshed out campaign of his to play with makes me quiver in anticipation.
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malkav11 posted:Caleb Stokes is a mad genius and the prospect of getting a fully fleshed out campaign of his to play with makes me quiver in anticipation. And you should! Having played the campaign, it is well worth quivering for. If you have any questions about No Soul Left Behind, I am happy to answer them!
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Apparently 78% of the backers just voted to let Palladium sell the first of the robotech game boxes they get at GenCon instead of sending them to backers. That 78% includes everyone who didn't vote, because people who didn't vote were made automatic yes votes, and there are no stats for total votes submitted. Palladium is the scummiest company I've ever had the displeasure to deal with in my brief experience with trad games.
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NTRabbit posted:Apparently 78% of the backers just voted to let Palladium sell the first of the robotech game boxes they get at GenCon instead of sending them to backers. I usually don't mind them selling things at cons: it helps build the community and is a surprisingly good source of revenue for the company. They should have just said so, said "sorry", and be on their way instead of a sort-of-crappy poll. It's not like it's hard to crank out more plastic; most of the wait time is getting shipping organized.
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KimotaBoom posted:No Soul Left Behind Oh this is delightful. Better Angels is one of my favorite 'super-hero' games.
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LordAba posted:I usually don't mind them selling things at cons: it helps build the community and is a surprisingly good source of revenue for the company. They should have just said so, said "sorry", and be on their way instead of a sort-of-crappy poll. It's not like it's hard to crank out more plastic; most of the wait time is getting shipping organized. They're also pushing close to 12 months late, lied about everything during and after the campaign, appear to have rushed out some pretty poor minis despite gobs of advice from people who know better, and aren't allowing backers attending GenCon to pick up what they pledged for.
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NTRabbit posted:They're also pushing close to 12 months late, lied about everything during and after the campaign, appear to have rushed out some pretty poor minis despite gobs of advice from people who know better, and aren't allowing backers attending GenCon to pick up what they pledged for. That last bit is the worst part, the rest is just business as usual in Palladium land but having product at Gen Con and not letting people get it unless they didn't back it or are willing to essentially pay twice is just despicable.
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NTRabbit posted:They're also pushing close to 12 months late, lied about everything during and after the campaign, appear to have rushed out some pretty poor minis despite gobs of advice from people who know better, and aren't allowing backers attending GenCon to pick up what they pledged for. The poor minis drives me bananas, I can live with waiting for quality, but for dozens of fiddly bits that won't look great when put together...ugh.
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